ATI R600 will NOT launch this quarter!

W1zzard · Feb 21, 2007, 09:55 AM

I just got off the phone with ATI who informed me that the Editor's Day which was scheduled around March 11 (flights and hotels were already booked) has been postponed to the second quarter of 2007.
The reason is that their R600 Series is not where they want it to be yet, so they decided to move the launch to be able to deliver a competitive product. Also I am hearing that at the Q2 launch we will see more than just GPU related stuff, so I would guess Physics or GPGPU computing.

"To better align our strategy with current market opportunities, we’ve changed the launch plan for R600. We are going to deliver a competitive configuration to market with an extremely attractive combination of performance, features and pricing, targeting a broader market segment in Q2. With the revised strategy, AMD will be better able to capitalize on the broad appeal of 3D graphics and DirectX 10, being driven in part by the growing popularity of Windows Vista™."

"This was a tough decision to make for us, but a necessary one that will ultimately result in bringing a better product to market."

Looks like CeBIT won't be so interesting at all.

InfDamarvel · Feb 21, 2007, 10:32 AM

wow...they are going to let nvidia completely take the market. If that come out q2 every single one of there cards must blow away NVs cards and be at a reasonable price range. Or this is just stupid.

C.Ash · Feb 21, 2007, 10:37 AM

NO!! God dammit, i only have until April to buy my PC.

This is JUST like what they did with the last generation. The X2800XTX is embodying the X1800XT.
And now the X2800XTX is not going to be a lot better than the 8800 GTX and ATI will have to triple the shaders on the X2900XTX in order to compete.

wazzledoozle · Feb 21, 2007, 10:41 AM

So not competing is better than trying to compete?

Nvidia blows and ATI is lazy. Meh.

wickerman · Feb 21, 2007, 10:50 AM

Honestly I dont see this as a bad thing really. Not like everyone in the world needs to see ATis answer to G80, with no DX10 games, benchmarks, mature drivers or operating system whats the rush? If it takes a little bit more time for them to launch with decent availability, better features, and tested drivers then why should they be shunned? I for one have always hated the paper launches of the past where a date is set for the launch but we don't see the products online or in stores for a month later. With expectations so high for the R600 and demand about to explode, isn't it a good thing that they would like to do it right?

After all, good things come to those who wait

Easy Rhino · Feb 21, 2007, 11:03 AM

are we talking early Q2? as in april instead of march?

Bastieeeh · Feb 21, 2007, 11:10 AM

2nd quarter reads 'end of June' - as usual... ;-)

Easy Rhino · Feb 21, 2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bastieeeh

2nd quarter reads 'end of June' - as usual... ;-)

well not necessarily. but im guessing you mean for business reasons they can wait until june without it effecting their bottom line those extra 2 months.

BXtreme · Feb 21, 2007, 11:19 AM

hmm...nice strategy, the Dx10 games will launch at q2 and later, so they plan to release it at the same time. ppl will buy both at same time...i witty idea from amd/ati, not bad

PVTCaboose1337 · Feb 21, 2007, 11:58 AM

Kind of a good idea I guess.

Darren · Feb 21, 2007, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazzledoozle

So not competing is better than trying to compete?

Nvidia blows and ATI is lazy. Meh.

This is the type of backwards thinking Microsoft have, release products early with bugs. Let ATI take their time and release a stable product, if you think that is lazy you are deluded!

WarEagleAU · Feb 21, 2007, 12:00 PM

<QUOTE>Honestly I dont see this as a bad thing really. Not like everyone in the world needs to see ATis answer to G80, with no DX10 games, benchmarks, mature drivers or operating system whats the rush? If it takes a little bit more time for them to launch with decent availability, better features, and tested drivers then why should they be shunned? I for one have always hated the paper launches of the past where a date is set for the launch but we don't see the products online or in stores for a month later. With expectations so high for the R600 and demand about to explode, isn't it a good thing that they would like to do it right?

After all, good things come to those who wait

</QUOTE>

Honestly, I agree with you. Everyone needs to calm down and quit griping. I would rather wait for MATURE hardware with the software and driver support for it. Also, if games arent available right now, its pretty much just a pitching and moaning show anyways. Honestly folks, this is a good thing. Especially since they mentioned price in this release.

BXtreme · Feb 21, 2007, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarEagleAU

<QUOTE>Honestly I dont see this as a bad thing really. Not like everyone in the world needs to see ATis answer to G80, with no DX10 games, benchmarks, mature drivers or operating system whats the rush? If it takes a little bit more time for them to launch with decent availability, better features, and tested drivers then why should they be shunned? I for one have always hated the paper launches of the past where a date is set for the launch but we don't see the products online or in stores for a month later. With expectations so high for the R600 and demand about to explode, isn't it a good thing that they would like to do it right?

After all, good things come to those who wait

</QUOTE>

Honestly, I agree with you. Everyone needs to calm down and quit griping. I would rather wait for MATURE hardware with the software and driver support for it. Also, if games arent available right now, its pretty much just a pitching and moaning show anyways. Honestly folks, this is a good thing. Especially since they mentioned price in this release.

well said

DaMulta · Feb 21, 2007, 12:23 PM

WOW for a card that was supposed to get launched in 2006.....

Bull Dog · Feb 21, 2007, 12:23 PM

Well............*bleep*. I was hoping for a March 30th something launch. All I can say is that thing better work *FLAWLESSLY* when it launches.

NympH · Feb 21, 2007, 01:09 PM

Noooo!!! GIVE ME MY CARD DAAMIT!!!

Protius · Feb 21, 2007, 01:23 PM

this is stupid...

shoman24v · Feb 21, 2007, 01:54 PM

Look at nVidia and the 8800, DX10 is having issues. If AMD wants to take the time to make their product better then let them, unless you guys like buying shit that doesn't work out of the box

coughcough8800coughcough.

It's just a video card, the world won't end.

LiNKiN · Feb 21, 2007, 02:13 PM

DaAMiT.

LiNKiN · Feb 21, 2007, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

Looks like CeBIT won't be so interesting at all.

Well still atleast have the girls right?

WarEagleAU · Feb 21, 2007, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoman24v

Look at nVidia and the 8800, DX10 is having issues. If AMD wants to take the time to make their product better then let them, unless you guys like buying shit that doesn't work out of the box

coughcough8800coughcough.

It's just a video card, the world won't end.

Exactly. As I said before, I would rather have a working series of cards with software support (drivers and games) than just the next big thing.

Easy Rhino · Feb 21, 2007, 02:58 PM

well a few more months doesnt hurt anybody except the stockholders might get pissed a little with less than expected earnings. it is frustrating for us gamers tho who have been waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting...

BXtreme · Feb 21, 2007, 03:07 PM

This topic means two things -
1. Vista + XP Dual Boot (Nice to have one now

, XP for games and Vista for everyday use)
2. A Dx9 Graphics card that'll hold up until the drivers get Super perfect, and more Dx10 cards are released

XooM · Feb 21, 2007, 03:37 PM

cool, a hardlaunch of their entire product line (budget all the way up to top end) instead of paper launch of the top end. Kickass.

Benpi · Feb 21, 2007, 03:37 PM

WTF! I built a god damn new computer around the fact that the R600 was coming out next month!!!!!! FU** YOU ATI! GIMME AN 8800 ; ;

Feb 21, 2007, 09:55 AM	#1
W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,790 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,272 Times in 3,173 Posts System Specs	ATI R600 will NOT launch this quarter! I just got off the phone with ATI who informed me that the Editor's Day which was scheduled around March 11 (flights and hotels were already booked) has been postponed to the second quarter of 2007. The reason is that their R600 Series is not where they want it to be yet, so they decided to move the launch to be able to deliver a competitive product. Also I am hearing that at the Q2 launch we will see more than just GPU related stuff, so I would guess Physics or GPGPU computing. "To better align our strategy with current market opportunities, we’ve changed the launch plan for R600. We are going to deliver a competitive configuration to market with an extremely attractive combination of performance, features and pricing, targeting a broader market segment in Q2. With the revised strategy, AMD will be better able to capitalize on the broad appeal of 3D graphics and DirectX 10, being driven in part by the growing popularity of Windows Vista™." "This was a tough decision to make for us, but a necessary one that will ultimately result in bringing a better product to market." Looks like CeBIT won't be so interesting at all. Last edited by W1zzard; Feb 21, 2007 at 10:29 AM.

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Feb 21, 2007, 02:58 PM	#22
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Feb 21, 2007, 03:37 PM	#25
Benpi Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 415 (0.18/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	WTF! I built a god damn new computer around the fact that the R600 was coming out next month!!!!!! FU** YOU ATI! GIMME AN 8800 ; ;