F-22 Raptor running on Windows?

Bastieeeh · Feb 26, 2007, 10:10 AM

I am really sorry for posting a headline like this because this is a dead serious issue Lockheed Martin und Boeing are being faced with. Today CNN reported on television that every fighter lost all navigation and communications when they crossed the international date line. These problems remind me of some bugs discovered around the turn of the year 2000, which would rather not come to my mind when thinking about the world's most expensive stealth fighter (361 million US Dollars per unit!).

Source: Slashdot

ex_reven · Feb 26, 2007, 10:14 AM

woops

someone forgot to carry the one

!

why would they release this information....

wiak · Feb 26, 2007, 10:18 AM

release?
i whould think everything everyone hear is leaked

lol yes windows is kinda buggy, i whould never use that word in a military sentence
they should have used FreeBSD!, best operating system ever!, its based on unix, its predates linux by over 10 years ^^

ex_reven · Feb 26, 2007, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiak

release?
i whould think everything everyone hear is leaked

lol yes windows is kinda buggy, i whould never use that word in a military sentence
they should have used FreeBSD!, best operating system ever!, its based on unix, its predates linux by over 10 years ^^

even a leak, it shouldnt happen. The military has routines for ensuring non disclosure of information in events like this. And usually people that leak information dont survive very long lol. The government will have their ass in some way, shape or form

kakazza · Feb 26, 2007, 10:25 AM

I loled, hard.

spectre440 · Feb 26, 2007, 11:07 AM

if this is true, then the situation is quite amusing, but one should't really laugh about it seeing as how people and pilots stake their lives on such things...

though it is hard not to laugh about it...

edit:
i must say though, that i find this story very hard to believe after delving into it a bit deeper...
seeing as how an F-22 is entirely dependent on its flight control computers to stay airborne... if those go then the plane would simply fall out of the sky like a rock...

Easy Rhino · Feb 26, 2007, 11:09 AM

yikes!

Easy Rhino · Feb 26, 2007, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiak

release?
i whould think everything everyone hear is leaked

lol yes windows is kinda buggy, i whould never use that word in a military sentence
they should have used FreeBSD!, best operating system ever!, its based on unix, its predates linux by over 10 years ^^

while i agree freebsd is the best OS in terms of stability and performance it does not predate linux by 10 years. freebsd started in 1993.

btw, do you use freebsd daily? im running it on 2 servers and a notebook.

Completely Bonkers · Feb 26, 2007, 11:12 AM

My goodness... those pilots must have been scared shitless. Imagine flying over an ocean, thousands of miles away from land... without ANY navigation. They were VERY LUCKY to have discovered the issue while still having the refueling planes within eyesight.

And lucky they had a communications (radio) system going. Imagine if that had gone too!

According to ONE news report... it was due to "bad weather". LOL. Imagine, fighter planes not being able to fly due to bad weather. LOL. Their excuse is actually WORSE than the real excuse. Software can be fixed. But a plane that cannot fly in bad weather is a plane that cannot fly in bad weather. Not much of an attack or defence system! Imagine: Dear enemy... please only attack in good weather. And to make it even... we will only attack you in good weather. Thanks for your understanding.

Perhaps the U.N. will be asked to implement a new "good weather only" international protocol.

Maybe the US will take global warming more seriously! Not for the environmental benefit, but so that their "good weather" defence system can work. LOL

Completely Bonkers · Feb 26, 2007, 11:14 AM

I'm sorry, I've just fallen off my chair ROFL

ex_reven · Feb 26, 2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Completely Bonkers

Dear enemy... please only attack in good weather. And to make it even... we will only attack you in good weather. Thanks for your understanding.

I rofl with malicious intent to destroy surrounding valuables

wiak · Feb 26, 2007, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

while i agree freebsd is the best OS in terms of stability and performance it does not predate linux by 10 years. freebsd started in 1993.

btw, do you use freebsd daily? im running it on 2 servers and a notebook.

am running FreeBSD 6.2 i386 with fluxbox, windoze2000 got to laggy! on my notebook (850mhz celeron,128mb ram, 14gb hd), FreeBSD 6.2 AMD64 along xp x64 on my gaming rig, running one server with FreeBSD 6.0 i386, and soon another server with freebsd 6.2 amd64

and i have sony ericsson phone, sony tv, sony dvd playa, sony cd playa, sony/nec dvd-rw, so i got much sony to hehe :-)

Easy Rhino · Feb 26, 2007, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiak

am running FreeBSD 6.2 i386 with fluxbox, windoze2000 got to laggy! on my notebook (850mhz celeron,128mb ram, 14gb hd), FreeBSD 6.2 AMD64 along xp x64 on my gaming rig, running one server with FreeBSD 6.0 i386, and soon another server with freebsd 6.2 amd64

and i have sony ericsson phone, sony tv, sony dvd playa, sony cd playa, sony/nec dvd-rw, so i got much sony to hehe :-)

what do you use freebsd for? business?

NamesDontMatter · Feb 26, 2007, 12:14 PM

This made me think for a second most of you believed the F22 uses windows lmao. The military does not use windows in the F22 . . . What garbage. lol, lets not turn TPU into TheINQ, I'd personally like to see more reliable source on stuff like this. Never herd of "The Peoples daily" before, but this news dosen't suprise me technology has bugs even linux.

Wile E · Feb 26, 2007, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NamesDontMatter

I can't believe any of you actually believe this. The military does not use windows in the F22 . . . What garbage. (http://english.people.com.cn/200702/...18_350967.html) is the origional article since when is "navigation software" windows?, lets not turn TPU into TheINQ.

I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm. He even apologized for it in the original post.

NamesDontMatter · Feb 26, 2007, 12:23 PM

yeah I edited when I looked over the article again, lol. Odd news article if you ask me.

Bastieeeh · Feb 26, 2007, 12:23 PM

I really hope all of you noticed the question mark at the end of the headline. Of course the fighter planes' operating systems don't have anything to do with a Windows OS! I thought the news message made it clear why I presented that ironic headline...

Completely Bonkers · Feb 26, 2007, 07:45 PM

@-1, yes the irony was very obvious to everyone with IQ > 80.

Scavar · Feb 26, 2007, 08:11 PM

I was so going to rant and rave. THe F-22 has its own prebuilt OS, based I am pretty sure on a UNIX system.

But I won't rant and rave. Because everyone seems to know it's BS, and whatever OS they do use, im sure isnt entirely public knowledge.

WarEagleAU · Feb 27, 2007, 12:53 AM

Agreed Scavar.

newtekie1 · Feb 27, 2007, 03:55 AM

Yep, Windows has to be the cause. We all know Windows is the only OS that crashes./sarcasm

Taking cheap shoots at Windows is a great way to start a flamewar though.

In all honesty, I get about the same number of actual OS crashes on my OSX and Linux boxes as I do on my WindowsXP boxes.

Zalmann · Feb 28, 2007, 09:09 AM

Gives another spin to the "blue-screen of death", literally.

Feb 26, 2007, 10:10 AM	#1
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Feb 26, 2007, 10:18 AM	#3
wiak Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 1,681 (0.53/day) Thanks: 15 Thanked 199 Times in 156 Posts	release? i whould think everything everyone hear is leaked lol yes windows is kinda buggy, i whould never use that word in a military sentence they should have used FreeBSD!, best operating system ever!, its based on unix, its predates linux by over 10 years ^^ __________________ My rig @ overclock.net \| My new friend OpenShot

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Feb 26, 2007, 11:07 AM	#6
spectre440 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 739 (0.26/day) Thanks: 8 Thanked 15 Times in 13 Posts System Specs	if this is true, then the situation is quite amusing, but one should't really laugh about it seeing as how people and pilots stake their lives on such things... though it is hard not to laugh about it... edit: i must say though, that i find this story very hard to believe after delving into it a bit deeper... seeing as how an F-22 is entirely dependent on its flight control computers to stay airborne... if those go then the plane would simply fall out of the sky like a rock... __________________ “I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.” - Hunter S. Thompson Last edited by spectre440; Feb 26, 2007 at 11:15 AM.

Feb 26, 2007, 10:14 AM	#2
ex_reven Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,413 (1.39/day) Thanks: 117 Thanked 181 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	woops someone forgot to carry the one ! why would they release this information....

Feb 26, 2007, 10:25 AM	#5
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Feb 26, 2007, 11:12 AM	#9
Completely Bonkers Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,415 (1.05/day) Thanks: 582 Thanked 533 Times in 374 Posts System Specs	My goodness... those pilots must have been scared shitless. Imagine flying over an ocean, thousands of miles away from land... without ANY navigation. They were VERY LUCKY to have discovered the issue while still having the refueling planes within eyesight. And lucky they had a communications (radio) system going. Imagine if that had gone too! According to ONE news report... it was due to "bad weather". LOL. Imagine, fighter planes not being able to fly due to bad weather. LOL. Their excuse is actually WORSE than the real excuse. Software can be fixed. But a plane that cannot fly in bad weather is a plane that cannot fly in bad weather. Not much of an attack or defence system! Imagine: Dear enemy... please only attack in good weather. And to make it even... we will only attack you in good weather. Thanks for your understanding. Perhaps the U.N. will be asked to implement a new "good weather only" international protocol. Maybe the US will take global warming more seriously! Not for the environmental benefit, but so that their "good weather" defence system can work. LOL __________________ ... some things in life just drive you bonkers. Especially the rubbish you see in forum posts

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Feb 26, 2007, 12:14 PM	#14
NamesDontMatter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut, United States Posts: 758 (0.27/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 27 Times in 19 Posts System Specs	This made me think for a second most of you believed the F22 uses windows lmao. The military does not use windows in the F22 . . . What garbage. lol, lets not turn TPU into TheINQ, I'd personally like to see more reliable source on stuff like this. Never herd of "The Peoples daily" before, but this news dosen't suprise me technology has bugs even linux. Last edited by NamesDontMatter; Feb 26, 2007 at 12:27 PM.

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Feb 26, 2007, 07:45 PM	#18
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Feb 26, 2007, 08:11 PM	#19
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Feb 27, 2007, 12:53 AM	#20
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Feb 27, 2007, 03:55 AM	#21
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Feb 28, 2007, 09:09 AM	#22
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