Windows Server 2003: scary install messages?

randomperson21 · Mar 25, 2007, 05:32 AM

So heres the deal:
Tonight, i wiped my XP system, with the intention of loading Windows Server 2003 on it. All is fine and well so far, except for a little scare i got after installing some drivers. On shutdown, a process (that taskmgr can't find, mind you) called "should not see me" crashes. Which gets my suspicions up. Secondly, theres a startup item called reboot.exe. its not a shortcut to a file, but the actual executable dumped into my startup folder.

mind you, this is after a relatively clean install. windows updates, nvidia drivers, audio drivers, firefox, and avg pro. thats pretty much it......

I killed the startup process, and did a windows defender and avg pro scan w/ the latest definitions, zelch, nada, nothin, bupkus.

but the problem has seem to dissapeared. no more startup item, no more crashing on shutdown.

Now heres the big question: should I be concerned? If so, what should I do about it?

On another random note: two questions.
1. is avg pro's firewall any good?
2. Should I run vista instead? it wouldn't be completely legal *cough cough, i mean, i got it from the store....... idk how well timerstop works plus i only have 1gb of ram. and i game....

KennyT772 · Mar 25, 2007, 05:37 AM

avg is known for its antivirus, use that. zonealarm has one of the best free firewalls. try reinstalling server03 and only installing from cd's. you cant get a virus if you dont connect to the net before you have zonealarm/avg running.

Mar 25, 2007, 05:55 AM

i get that on every windows install i've ever done with one certain disk, as soon as i install the chipset and graphics drivers, i never see it again. here is a post from another forum that explains it a bit

No need to be paranoid, that "You should not see me" message is part of a Windows installer problem, and will certainly be related to the failed Shogun installation.

Started with DOS 6? You are young!

I started before DOS (CPM) but began assembly language programming under DOS 1.1

Mar 25, 2007, 05:57 AM

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...6a4feff581d775

also check that out, it explains it much more in depth, post 2 in there is the best info

randomperson21 · Mar 25, 2007, 06:25 AM

holy crap. so that was part of nvidia?!?!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!???!?

blargh too late now. i got to the point where i simpily didn't trust the damn thing anymore. wiped out server 2003 already.... i'm loading vista ultimate right now just to check it out. then i'm most likely moving back.

thanks for the responses everyone. i must admit, it scared the shit out of me to begin with, but i feel much better now. heh.

oh yea, zone alarm doesn't work in win2k3. avg pro does tho.... i also heard nod32 is good.

BXtreme · Mar 25, 2007, 06:31 AM

I too reinstalled 2k3 for some more testing.
Btw, NOD32 works on 'Most' windows, and it's the best in wild detection ratio

randomperson21 · Mar 25, 2007, 06:53 AM

hallo all from vista ultimate! all i can say is so far so good. i must admit, the setup time was pretty freaking speedy.

first impressions? lots of shiny fx. distracting, to a point. and the security messages are annoying. other than that, it looks pretty nice. might keep it for awhile before loading w2k3 back on it.

quick question for you vista users: in task manager, it says i have 1022mb total ram (correct), but 670mb cached, and only like 6mb free. is this superfetch? and how will this affect usual usage?

Zalmann · Mar 25, 2007, 06:56 AM

lol... I think 2003 server should be only for servers. It's not made for normal consumer desktop use. Vista on the other hand is.

BXtreme · Mar 25, 2007, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomperson21

hallo all from vista ultimate! all i can say is so far so good. i must admit, the setup time was pretty freaking speedy.

first impressions? lots of shiny fx. distracting, to a point. and the security messages are annoying. other than that, it looks pretty nice. might keep it for awhile before loading w2k3 back on it.

quick question for you vista users: in task manager, it says i have 1022mb total ram (correct), but 670mb cached, and only like 6mb free. is this superfetch? and how will this affect usual usage?

er..I just uninstalled Vista

, but this site will help you http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000688.html And http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...1-6162525.html
btw, disable the UAC (user account control) by typing 'msconfig' on Run. Then advanced, and 'launch' the disable uac. it'll keep the annoying security pop-ups away

Pinchy · Mar 25, 2007, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomperson21

hallo all from vista ultimate! all i can say is so far so good. i must admit, the setup time was pretty freaking speedy.

first impressions? lots of shiny fx. distracting, to a point. and the security messages are annoying. other than that, it looks pretty nice. might keep it for awhile before loading w2k3 back on it.

quick question for you vista users: in task manager, it says i have 1022mb total ram (correct), but 670mb cached, and only like 6mb free. is this superfetch? and how will this affect usual usage?

I dnno what it is, but its normal.

I got 2046 total, 1399 cached and 25 free

Wile E · Mar 25, 2007, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomperson21

hallo all from vista ultimate! all i can say is so far so good. i must admit, the setup time was pretty freaking speedy.

first impressions? lots of shiny fx. distracting, to a point. and the security messages are annoying. other than that, it looks pretty nice. might keep it for awhile before loading w2k3 back on it.

quick question for you vista users: in task manager, it says i have 1022mb total ram (correct), but 670mb cached, and only like 6mb free. is this superfetch? and how will this affect usual usage?

Yeah, that's partly to blame on Superfetch. It greatly speeds app loading for day to day stuff, but disable it if you plan to game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalmann

lol... I think 2003 server should be only for servers. It's not made for normal consumer workstation use. Vista on the other hand is.

2k3 makes a great desktop os. It's very fast, secure and stable. It can run 99% of anything that's for XP, including drivers. It does have a handful of incompatibilities, tho. Mostly related to Vendors locking 2k3 out, however. they want you to buy their Server branded software. O&O and Kaspersky jump to mind immediately.

Pinchy · Mar 25, 2007, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

Yeah, that's partly to blame on Superfetch. It greatly speeds app loading for day to day stuff, but disable it if you plan to game.

How does it affect gaming?

Wile E · Mar 25, 2007, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinchy

How does it affect gaming?

It eats a little too much ram, especially if you only have 1GB. I disable it to game, bench, and any other memory intensive stuff. I leave it on for surfing and office type tasks.

randomperson21 · Mar 25, 2007, 08:08 AM

oh foo. now i really screwed something up. conflict with royal.sys on boot, it has to do with something it pulled down from windows update in combination with some pci root controller on my nvidia board. shame... shame....

anyone know how to uninstall windows updates from safe mode (from vista?). i keep on hitting windows update, and not a single thing happens.

randomperson21 · Mar 25, 2007, 08:14 AM

arugh never mind. i renamed royal.sys to royal2.sys. idk what royal.sys did in the first place, but evidently its not important.

Mar 25, 2007, 05:32 AM	#1
randomperson21 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 1,203 (0.45/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Windows Server 2003: scary install messages? So heres the deal: Tonight, i wiped my XP system, with the intention of loading Windows Server 2003 on it. All is fine and well so far, except for a little scare i got after installing some drivers. On shutdown, a process (that taskmgr can't find, mind you) called "should not see me" crashes. Which gets my suspicions up. Secondly, theres a startup item called reboot.exe. its not a shortcut to a file, but the actual executable dumped into my startup folder. mind you, this is after a relatively clean install. windows updates, nvidia drivers, audio drivers, firefox, and avg pro. thats pretty much it...... I killed the startup process, and did a windows defender and avg pro scan w/ the latest definitions, zelch, nada, nothin, bupkus. but the problem has seem to dissapeared. no more startup item, no more crashing on shutdown. Now heres the big question: should I be concerned? If so, what should I do about it? On another random note: two questions. 1. is avg pro's firewall any good? 2. Should I run vista instead? it wouldn't be completely legal *cough cough, i mean, i got it from the store....... idk how well timerstop works plus i only have 1gb of ram. and i game....

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Mar 25, 2007, 05:37 AM	#2
KennyT772 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,933 (1.08/day) Thanks: 19 Thanked 103 Times in 98 Posts System Specs	avg is known for its antivirus, use that. zonealarm has one of the best free firewalls. try reinstalling server03 and only installing from cd's. you cant get a virus if you dont connect to the net before you have zonealarm/avg running. __________________ Xfire Heatware

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Mar 25, 2007, 05:55 AM	#3
psychomage343 Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	i get that on every windows install i've ever done with one certain disk, as soon as i install the chipset and graphics drivers, i never see it again. here is a post from another forum that explains it a bit No need to be paranoid, that "You should not see me" message is part of a Windows installer problem, and will certainly be related to the failed Shogun installation. Started with DOS 6? You are young! I started before DOS (CPM) but began assembly language programming under DOS 1.1

Mar 25, 2007, 05:57 AM	#4
psychomage343 Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	http://groups.google.com/group/micro...6a4feff581d775 also check that out, it explains it much more in depth, post 2 in there is the best info

Mar 25, 2007, 06:25 AM	#5
randomperson21 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 1,203 (0.45/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	holy crap. so that was part of nvidia?!?!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!???!? blargh too late now. i got to the point where i simpily didn't trust the damn thing anymore. wiped out server 2003 already.... i'm loading vista ultimate right now just to check it out. then i'm most likely moving back. thanks for the responses everyone. i must admit, it scared the shit out of me to begin with, but i feel much better now. heh. oh yea, zone alarm doesn't work in win2k3. avg pro does tho.... i also heard nod32 is good.

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randomperson21 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 1,203 (0.45/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	hallo all from vista ultimate! all i can say is so far so good. i must admit, the setup time was pretty freaking speedy. first impressions? lots of shiny fx. distracting, to a point. and the security messages are annoying. other than that, it looks pretty nice. might keep it for awhile before loading w2k3 back on it. quick question for you vista users: in task manager, it says i have 1022mb total ram (correct), but 670mb cached, and only like 6mb free. is this superfetch? and how will this affect usual usage?

Mar 25, 2007, 06:56 AM	#8
Zalmann Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 782 (0.34/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	lol... I think 2003 server should be only for servers. It's not made for normal consumer desktop use. Vista on the other hand is. __________________ [img disabled]http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1687/101zb7.gif[/img] System 2: Athlon64 3000+, Asrock 939SLI32-eSATA, 4GB PC3200, NVIDIA 6800 256Mb, CM HTPC Slimline case System 3: Athlon XP 3200+, Gigabyte N-Force 2, ATI 9600XT AGP, 1GB PC3200, Generic midi-tower case System 4 (notebook): Pentium M 2.0G Dothan (Centrino), 1.5GB PC3200, ATI 9700 mobile, 60GB HDD Last edited by Zalmann; Mar 25, 2007 at 07:46 AM.

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Mar 25, 2007, 08:08 AM	#14
randomperson21 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 1,203 (0.45/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	oh foo. now i really screwed something up. conflict with royal.sys on boot, it has to do with something it pulled down from windows update in combination with some pci root controller on my nvidia board. shame... shame.... anyone know how to uninstall windows updates from safe mode (from vista?). i keep on hitting windows update, and not a single thing happens.

Mar 25, 2007, 08:14 AM	#15
randomperson21 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 1,203 (0.45/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	arugh never mind. i renamed royal.sys to royal2.sys. idk what royal.sys did in the first place, but evidently its not important.

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