Scythe Katana or Ninja

bruins004 · Mar 26, 2007, 03:25 AM

So I am still deciding on which to choose.
I have limited it down to these 2.
And yes I know the Ninja is like the best one.

But is it really worth the extra $20 (almost double the price of the Katana) to get it.
I am not going to OC hardcore, but I am going to OC moderately.
Maybe go to 2.8 with my x2 3600+.

trt740 · Mar 26, 2007, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruins004

So I am still deciding on which to choose.
I have limited it down to these 2.
And yes I know the Ninja is like the best one.

But is it really worth the extra $20 (almost double the price of the Katana) to get it.
I am not going to OC hardcore, but I am going to OC moderately.
Maybe go to 2.8 with my x2 3600+.

get a Arctic Cooler 64 pro it really inexpensive and cools as good as both of those coolers if not better. I know I own an infinity and I see little or not difference between my 64 and infinity and 64 cost half the price.

bruins004 · Mar 26, 2007, 04:47 AM

I would love to get an AC Freezer but I need a universal cooler and from what I know, this is not universal. Am I correct on this?

If so I want a good, but not the best CPU cooler that isnt too expensive.
The ninja is a little expensive so I was looking for something.

* The reason I need universal is bc I currently have the AM2 platform, but if Barcelona doesnt outperform the new C2Ds coming out I am going to get that

ktr · Mar 26, 2007, 05:07 PM

look at this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835887002

it might look like a butterfly, but it performs pretty good.

bruins004 · Mar 26, 2007, 06:45 PM

It def. does look like a butterfly.
KTR you always come out with these heatsinks I have never heard before.

Do you test them or something?

ktr · Mar 26, 2007, 07:35 PM

I personally do not test them, but i read plenty of reviews, especially the brands that are not that popular. I have seen the underdogs out perform and of the popular brands, the problem is that they arent heard about that often.

here are some reviews:http://www.google.com/search?q=ZEROt...ient=firefox-a

the source is from vr zone.

bruins004 · Mar 26, 2007, 08:04 PM

Thanks.
I was looking at the reviews and they seem very impressive.

Just out of curiousity how does this outperform the Ninja.
Is it bc its all copper and the ninja isnt?
I just find it odd that a huge cooler gets outperfomed by a smaller one

ktr · Mar 26, 2007, 08:17 PM

huge = more heat it can absorb = harder to expel that heat (need strong fans)...

small = less heat it can absorb = easier to expel that heat

so you need balance between the two...ie: a medium, such has the BTF90.

Copper heatsinks are able to handle faster and more heat-intensive processors better than their aluminum counterparts, Cu almost have double the heat transfer than Al.

bruins004 · Mar 26, 2007, 08:40 PM

I am going to get this and it seems like a really nice heatsink.

Its not too big (that is why I couldnt decide if I should get the ninja or not) and it is easier to install.

Thanks KTR for the help.

Just out of curiousity what are some other non-known heatsinks that are good?
I always like reading up on this stuff.

ktr · Mar 26, 2007, 08:44 PM

www.frostytech.com does a great job in find these underdogs...you can start from there.

bruins004 · Mar 26, 2007, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktr

www.frostytech.com does a great job in find these underdogs...you can start from there.

I was just looking at Frostytech and the Apack is rated better than the Akasa Evo you showed me before. (Sweet)

One last question before I order this with my x2 3600 combo.

Is the fan replaceable (just in case it dies)?

ktr · Mar 27, 2007, 03:21 AM

doesnt seem like the fan is replaceable.

t260g · Mar 27, 2007, 07:43 PM

umm...

its big, but its good and you can control the fan speed... good price

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835128014

http://frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2018

its good too. probably the best heatsink for $35 right now

ktr · Mar 27, 2007, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t260g

umm...

its big, but its good and you can control the fan speed... good price

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835128014

http://frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2018

its good too. probably the best heatsink for $35 right now

gigabyte heatsink are good in performance, but very noise on high that is...pretty good on low...mine makes my compy idle around 28C.

bruins004 · Mar 27, 2007, 09:19 PM

Looks like a good heatsink, but it doesnt say that its LGA 775 compatable which stinks.

Velocity · Mar 27, 2007, 10:47 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835209015

got this for one of my rigs, its not fancy but it did take it down quite a bit from stock cooling, plus to my knowlege it will fit on most any socket

edit- the review of the guy who says its loud is full of crap, quite a bit quieter than stock... u could just move to wc :P

ktr · Mar 28, 2007, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruins004

Looks like a good heatsink, but it doesnt say that its LGA 775 compatable which stinks.

they are...

Mar 26, 2007, 03:25 AM	#1
bruins004 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,178 (0.78/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 80 Times in 55 Posts System Specs	Scythe Katana or Ninja So I am still deciding on which to choose. I have limited it down to these 2. And yes I know the Ninja is like the best one. But is it really worth the extra $20 (almost double the price of the Katana) to get it. I am not going to OC hardcore, but I am going to OC moderately. Maybe go to 2.8 with my x2 3600+. __________________ RIG #1 - See System Specs. RIG #2 AMD X2 3600+ (AM2), Biostar TF550, 2 x 1GB Buffalo Firestix, XFX 9800GTX+, WD 250 GB HD, NZXT Nemesis Elite Case, Lite-On Combo Drive and Lite-On DVD RW Drive, Antec TruePower 550W, 20.1" Dell w/ 17" Sony LCD

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Mar 26, 2007, 04:47 AM	#3
bruins004 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,178 (0.78/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 80 Times in 55 Posts System Specs	I would love to get an AC Freezer but I need a universal cooler and from what I know, this is not universal. Am I correct on this? If so I want a good, but not the best CPU cooler that isnt too expensive. The ninja is a little expensive so I was looking for something. * The reason I need universal is bc I currently have the AM2 platform, but if Barcelona doesnt outperform the new C2Ds coming out I am going to get that __________________ RIG #1 - See System Specs. RIG #2 AMD X2 3600+ (AM2), Biostar TF550, 2 x 1GB Buffalo Firestix, XFX 9800GTX+, WD 250 GB HD, NZXT Nemesis Elite Case, Lite-On Combo Drive and Lite-On DVD RW Drive, Antec TruePower 550W, 20.1" Dell w/ 17" Sony LCD

Processor:	AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (939)
Motherboard:	MSI Neo K8n Neo4-F with Nforce 4
Cooling:	ThermalTake Venus12 + 3 case fans + PCI slot cooler for GPU
Memory:	2x 512mb Kingston PC-3200
Video Card:	XFX GeForce 7800GT
Hard Disk:	Western Digital 160GB
Optical Drive:	Lite On DVD+/-RW, Lite On Combo Drive
CRT/LCD Model:	ViewSonic VX2025WM
Case:	Logisys Dracula Case (Black)
Sound Card:	Onboard Sound, Logitech X-530 Surround Sound Speakers
PSU:	OCZ PowerStream 520W
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Mar 26, 2007, 05:07 PM	#4
ktr Eligible for custom title Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bay Area, California, USA, Earth Posts: 6,158 (2.37/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 708 Times in 595 Posts System Specs	look at this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835887002 it might look like a butterfly, but it performs pretty good.

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Mar 26, 2007, 06:45 PM	#5
bruins004 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,178 (0.78/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 80 Times in 55 Posts System Specs	It def. does look like a butterfly. KTR you always come out with these heatsinks I have never heard before. Do you test them or something? __________________ RIG #1 - See System Specs. RIG #2 AMD X2 3600+ (AM2), Biostar TF550, 2 x 1GB Buffalo Firestix, XFX 9800GTX+, WD 250 GB HD, NZXT Nemesis Elite Case, Lite-On Combo Drive and Lite-On DVD RW Drive, Antec TruePower 550W, 20.1" Dell w/ 17" Sony LCD

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ktr Eligible for custom title Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bay Area, California, USA, Earth Posts: 6,158 (2.37/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 708 Times in 595 Posts System Specs	I personally do not test them, but i read plenty of reviews, especially the brands that are not that popular. I have seen the underdogs out perform and of the popular brands, the problem is that they arent heard about that often. here are some reviews:http://www.google.com/search?q=ZEROt...ient=firefox-a the source is from vr zone.

Mar 26, 2007, 08:04 PM	#7
bruins004 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,178 (0.78/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 80 Times in 55 Posts System Specs	Thanks. I was looking at the reviews and they seem very impressive. Just out of curiousity how does this outperform the Ninja. Is it bc its all copper and the ninja isnt? I just find it odd that a huge cooler gets outperfomed by a smaller one __________________ RIG #1 - See System Specs. RIG #2 AMD X2 3600+ (AM2), Biostar TF550, 2 x 1GB Buffalo Firestix, XFX 9800GTX+, WD 250 GB HD, NZXT Nemesis Elite Case, Lite-On Combo Drive and Lite-On DVD RW Drive, Antec TruePower 550W, 20.1" Dell w/ 17" Sony LCD

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ktr Eligible for custom title Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bay Area, California, USA, Earth Posts: 6,158 (2.37/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 708 Times in 595 Posts System Specs	huge = more heat it can absorb = harder to expel that heat (need strong fans)... small = less heat it can absorb = easier to expel that heat so you need balance between the two...ie: a medium, such has the BTF90. Copper heatsinks are able to handle faster and more heat-intensive processors better than their aluminum counterparts, Cu almost have double the heat transfer than Al.

Mar 26, 2007, 08:40 PM	#9
bruins004 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,178 (0.78/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 80 Times in 55 Posts System Specs	I am going to get this and it seems like a really nice heatsink. Its not too big (that is why I couldnt decide if I should get the ninja or not) and it is easier to install. Thanks KTR for the help. Just out of curiousity what are some other non-known heatsinks that are good? I always like reading up on this stuff. __________________ RIG #1 - See System Specs. RIG #2 AMD X2 3600+ (AM2), Biostar TF550, 2 x 1GB Buffalo Firestix, XFX 9800GTX+, WD 250 GB HD, NZXT Nemesis Elite Case, Lite-On Combo Drive and Lite-On DVD RW Drive, Antec TruePower 550W, 20.1" Dell w/ 17" Sony LCD

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ktr Eligible for custom title Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bay Area, California, USA, Earth Posts: 6,158 (2.37/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 708 Times in 595 Posts System Specs	www.frostytech.com does a great job in find these underdogs...you can start from there.

Mar 27, 2007, 03:21 AM	#12
ktr Eligible for custom title Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bay Area, California, USA, Earth Posts: 6,158 (2.37/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 708 Times in 595 Posts System Specs	doesnt seem like the fan is replaceable.

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t260g Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 142 (0.06/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	umm... its big, but its good and you can control the fan speed... good price http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835128014 http://frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2018 its good too. probably the best heatsink for $35 right now Last edited by t260g; Mar 27, 2007 at 07:56 PM.

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Mar 27, 2007, 09:19 PM	#15
bruins004 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,178 (0.78/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 80 Times in 55 Posts System Specs	Looks like a good heatsink, but it doesnt say that its LGA 775 compatable which stinks. __________________ RIG #1 - See System Specs. RIG #2 AMD X2 3600+ (AM2), Biostar TF550, 2 x 1GB Buffalo Firestix, XFX 9800GTX+, WD 250 GB HD, NZXT Nemesis Elite Case, Lite-On Combo Drive and Lite-On DVD RW Drive, Antec TruePower 550W, 20.1" Dell w/ 17" Sony LCD

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