R600 family compatible to AGP - Full PCGH interview

Bastieeeh · Apr 2, 2007, 08:32 PM

At the CeBIT the guys from the PC Games magazin interviewed ATIs Vijay Sharma and because of their tight schedule just focused on a single story first. Sharma said the R600 will be compatible to the AGP to PCIe bridge called Rialto, which means that Add-In-Board (AIB) Partners could manufacture AGP cards based on the R600 family (R600/RV610/RV630).
Now the complete interview was released to the public which is none the less a very informativ read. Head over here if you want to know more about the upcoming R600 family, DX10 and drivers, new Antialiasing modes, memory interfaces and stuff like that.

Alcpone · Apr 2, 2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bastieeeh

At the CeBIT the guys from the PC Games magazin interviewed ATIs Vijay Sharma and because of their tight schedule just focused on a single story first. Sharma said the R600 will be compatible to the AGP to PCIe bridge called Rialto, which means that Add-In-Board (AIB) Partners could manufacture AGP cards based on the R600 family (R600/RV610/RV630).
Now the complete interview was released to the public which is none the less a very informativ read. Head over here if you want to know more about the upcoming R600 family, DX10 and drivers, new Antialiasing modes, memory interfaces and stuff like that.

Sounds like AGP will never die out lol, like we were told hmmmmm.....

Vandit · Apr 2, 2007, 09:09 PM

Conti027 · Apr 2, 2007, 09:19 PM

just love how AGP is going down fighting

jocksteeluk · Apr 2, 2007, 09:27 PM

this is a good move by AMD to strike some brand loyalty with the remaining AGP users no doubt these uses will be more likely when they eventually switch to pci stick with AMD brand graphics cards. I think this move may force nvidia to reconsider its position regarding the remaining agp user.

Makaveli · Apr 2, 2007, 10:45 PM

I agree with your statement 100%

Being an AGP user, I alteast having the option.

WarEagleAU · Apr 2, 2007, 10:45 PM

I think this is a nice move by AMD/ATI. They realize there is a still an overwhelming market for the AGP customer. And it is true, alot of folks are still clinging to AGP. I dont know of any boards made today that cater to AGP (would be nice to see a mid range OVERCLOCKING board)
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DaMulta · Apr 2, 2007, 10:47 PM

It would take 4 power plug ins for AGP R600 unless they powered it externally.

TXcharger · Apr 2, 2007, 10:57 PM

ehh and now the problem us agp users will have is our pc's are to far behind and will bottleneck

Exceededgoku · Apr 2, 2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TXcharger

ehh and now the problem us agp users will have is our pc's are to far behind and will bottleneck

problem is AGP users will get a downgraded version which uses less power, cos there is no possible way an AGP users computer will have the power slots needed to power one of these beasts. And if AMD expect AGP users to buy anything like a power supply then its just not gunna work...

tkpenalty · Apr 3, 2007, 07:11 AM

Why dont they just offer high end mobos in two flavours? AGP isnt dying dammit!

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Originally Posted by Exceededgoku

problem is AGP users will get a downgraded version which uses less power, cos there is no possible way an AGP users computer will have the power slots needed to power one of these beasts. And if AMD expect AGP users to buy anything like a power supply then its just not gunna work...

Um only enthusiasts buy stuff like this, obviously you would need a good PSU.

ex_reven · Apr 3, 2007, 07:26 AM

Die Agp! Die!

Batou1986 · Apr 3, 2007, 11:57 AM

uh why is everyone so concerned about the power

its not like because i use an agp board i have to use some outdated POS power supply

anyway this is great news i wouldn't mind getting a mid range dx10 card wile i wait for a decent K10 Pci-e 2.0 setup to come out

and the only reason agp systems bottle neck now is because of the lack of any decent cpu support for agp

to further prove my point look at the benchmarks for 1950pro agp vs pci-e most games get a -/+ 1 fps difference point being the pci-e bus has only one advantage SLI/CF

TXcharger · Apr 6, 2007, 04:25 AM

I have an outdated POS power supply....

LMAO but ill be getting a new one if the make a X2600 in agp, if they just have a X2300 ill upgrade, screw that pussy card

ktr · Apr 6, 2007, 04:39 AM

sweat deal! but all in all, isnt worth is dumping 100bucks on a pci-e mobo than the card rather going agp? i would think so...

Completely Bonkers · Apr 6, 2007, 10:08 PM

Let's hope there is a low power AGP version... so that we can swap a X800/X850 device for the new R600 WITHOUT having to buy a new PSU also.

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