Sapphire X1950 Pro Dual - Page 2

Flyordie · Feb 9, 2010, 09:52 PM

Its alot like my HD2600XT 256MB GDDR4.

When compared to the reviews of the same card on release date... the newer drivers added 15-20% performance markups.

eidairaman1 · Feb 9, 2010, 11:36 PM

thats the problem with alot of review sites, they dont revisit the hardware after initial release to see if gains are to be had or not, best way to test is to have them done at 1 year mark.

jehuty9800 · Jul 7, 2010, 07:01 AM

hello, im new here, i just bought this card, and put it into my computer, well, it works great, BUT, my computer only reads it as a 256MB card instead of the suppose to be 512MB. im currently running legacy drivers 10.2. and i tried running it with vista ultimate 64bit, and the crossfire does not work and it reads as 256mb. now i put XP Pro 64bit and the crossfire works great, BUT it still read as 256MB each card. can anyone help me. my MOBO is a MSI K9A2-CF 790X. cpu AMD athlon 64 X2 5800+. now, anyone have any ideas? is it just 64bit that acts like this? or should i try running 32bit?

Tatty_One · Jul 7, 2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jehuty9800

hello, im new here, i just bought this card, and put it into my computer, well, it works great, BUT, my computer only reads it as a 256MB card instead of the suppose to be 512MB. im currently running legacy drivers 10.2. and i tried running it with vista ultimate 64bit, and the crossfire does not work and it reads as 256mb. now i put XP Pro 64bit and the crossfire works great, BUT it still read as 256MB each card. can anyone help me. my MOBO is a MSI K9A2-CF 790X. cpu AMD athlon 64 X2 5800+. now, anyone have any ideas? is it just 64bit that acts like this? or should i try running 32bit?

64bit or 32bit should not make a difference, this is a strange one, could you download GPU-Z and dump the Bios, then Zip it and upload it here so I can take a look at it.

GPU-Z will also give you an accurate reading of memory size available.

eidairaman1 · Jul 7, 2010, 04:09 PM

Are you sure you are not talking about the bus speed?

jehuty9800 · Jul 7, 2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Are you sure you are not talking about the bus speed?

no, the bus speed posts at 256bit, and then it say memory size 256mb

btarunr · Jul 7, 2010, 04:25 PM

GPU-Z shows memory bus width / bandwidth of each GPU on a dual-GPU card, not the card's effective memory bandwidth.

jehuty9800 · Jul 7, 2010, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

64bit or 32bit should not make a difference, this is a strange one, could you download GPU-Z and dump the Bios, then Zip it and upload it here so I can take a look at it.

GPU-Z will also give you an accurate reading of memory size available.

heres a pic of what gpuz says, im not sure how to dump the bios, never done it before.

btarunr · Jul 7, 2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jehuty9800

heres a pic of what gpuz says, im not sure how to dump the bios, never done it before.

Everything seems fine? 256 MB over 256-bit per GPU? That's the correct reading. Click on the dropdown to see two GPUs and read values of each GPU.

erocker · Jul 7, 2010, 04:30 PM

Perhaps ULPS is getting in the way. ULPS is Ultra Low Power State in which Catalyst basically turns off the 2nd GPU/RAM to save power. Try running the card under load and then check GPU-Z.

newtekie1 · Jul 7, 2010, 05:01 PM

I'd contact Sapphire, but I'm almost postive there were two versions of this cards when it was released. One with 512MB of RAM(2x256MB) and one with 1GB(2x512MB), you seem to have gotten the 512MB version. I can't seem to find anything on these cards since they are so old.

eidairaman1 · Jul 7, 2010, 08:31 PM

ok the Sapphire x1950 Pro Dual Came with either 512MB or 1024MB ram, meaning each GPU had 256MB or 512MB of ram

aka GPU1=256, GPU 2=256 which is the Sx1950PD512

GPU1=512, GPU 2=512 which is the Sx1950PD1024

It also says Crossfire with ULPS is enabled on GPUz.

jehuty9800 · Jul 8, 2010, 03:02 AM

the guy i got it from show me it running with 512mb on each adapter, i put it into my computer, installed drivers and its say 256mb per gpu.

eidairaman1 · Jul 8, 2010, 03:10 AM

whats your system specs and what was his? Also was this guy trustworthy? He could of modified the software code to show it has more than advertised, or modified it after-wards before he showed you. Only other Option is to check the service tag on the board itself, Or he Sent you 1 that is not what he advertised.

erocker · Jul 8, 2010, 03:23 AM

I have a feeling it's something to do with the drivers or with XP x64. It could even be some sort of system bios issue not addressing the memory for some reason but I don't know what motherboard you are using. What drivers are you using and what drivers did you have installed before this card?

eidairaman1 · Jul 8, 2010, 03:28 AM

another thing to try, make sure the powersupply is strong enough to provide juice needed on both 6 pin connectors and also ensure the board is fully seated in a PCI Express X16 Speed Slot

jehuty9800 · Jul 9, 2010, 04:07 AM

well, my psu has one 6pin pic adapter and im using the 1 molez 2 6pin adapter that came with my X1900GT. it only has 3 wires going to the plug, would that affect anything? or should i get the 2molex 2 6pin pci that has 6 wires? would that change anything?

eidairaman1 · Jul 9, 2010, 04:03 PM

Gonna tell you this now, Provide all and I MEAN ALL System Specs.

jehuty9800 · Jul 9, 2010, 04:56 PM

okay, motherboard MSI K9A2-CF
cpu- AMD athlon 64 x2 5400+ AM2+ cpu
5BG ram at 533mhz

jehuty9800 · Jul 9, 2010, 05:18 PM

okay, motherboard MSI K9A2-CF 790X NB SB600
cpu- AMD athlon 64 x2 5400+ AM2+ cpu @2.8ghz
5BG ram at 533mhz
GPU sapphire X1950Pro dual
750W PSU
seagate 320GB hdd
640GB hdd
OS XP pro 64bit sp2
graphic driver ATI legacy drivers 10.2
thats all i can think of for right now

erocker · Jul 9, 2010, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jehuty9800

well, my psu has one 6pin pic adapter and im using the 1 molez 2 6pin adapter that came with my X1900GT. it only has 3 wires going to the plug, would that affect anything? or should i get the 2molex 2 6pin pci that has 6 wires? would that change anything?

It might and is worth trying at this point.

jehuty9800 · Jul 17, 2010, 09:53 PM

hi, okay, ive been messing around for a bit, but i still have not gotten the card to read as 2 512 mb cards. but I did notice this, i was looking in the box i got with it and there is a adapter. it has 2 vga ports on it and 2 connectors on it. now, the video card also has the female connector ports on it. now, for curiosity i went into my display icon in control panel and went to settings. it shows 4 monitors! now i clicked each one and did a adapter check. its reading as 256mb per each monitor. so now i've been trying to figure out how to make the card have only 2 monitors instead of 4. it does explain the 256mb issues. my computer reads it as having 4 256mb video cars instead of 2 512mb. now HOW DO I MAKE THIS SHOW ONLY 2 MONITORS???????

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Jul 7, 2010, 07:01 AM	#28
jehuty9800 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 8 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	bit of a problem hello, im new here, i just bought this card, and put it into my computer, well, it works great, BUT, my computer only reads it as a 256MB card instead of the suppose to be 512MB. im currently running legacy drivers 10.2. and i tried running it with vista ultimate 64bit, and the crossfire does not work and it reads as 256mb. now i put XP Pro 64bit and the crossfire works great, BUT it still read as 256MB each card. can anyone help me. my MOBO is a MSI K9A2-CF 790X. cpu AMD athlon 64 X2 5800+. now, anyone have any ideas? is it just 64bit that acts like this? or should i try running 32bit?

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Feb 9, 2010, 09:52 PM	#26
Flyordie Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,496 (0.90/day) Thanks: 101 Thanked 249 Times in 219 Posts System Specs	Its alot like my HD2600XT 256MB GDDR4. When compared to the reviews of the same card on release date... the newer drivers added 15-20% performance markups.

Jul 7, 2010, 04:09 PM	#30
eidairaman1 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HTX Posts: 10,078 (4.69/day) Thanks: 1,359 Thanked 1,159 Times in 1,035 Posts System Specs	Are you sure you are not talking about the bus speed? __________________ Athlon XP USERS with COD 4 FIX http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...ls-202011.html http://www.howorks.com/2011/02/24/ho...-memory-limit/ “Sometimes my level of fail is unprecedented.” -TheMailMan78 “This is what the force of a thousand suns looks like.” -3870x2

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erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,914 (12.77/day) Thanks: 2,783 Thanked 12,276 Times in 7,815 Posts System Specs	Perhaps ULPS is getting in the way. ULPS is Ultra Low Power State in which Catalyst basically turns off the 2nd GPU/RAM to save power. Try running the card under load and then check GPU-Z.

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newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 17,748 (6.48/day) Thanks: 780 Thanked 5,115 Times in 3,706 Posts System Specs	I'd contact Sapphire, but I'm almost postive there were two versions of this cards when it was released. One with 512MB of RAM(2x256MB) and one with 1GB(2x512MB), you seem to have gotten the 512MB version. I can't seem to find anything on these cards since they are so old. __________________ Rig1: System Specs. Rig2: A8-5600K@4.4GHz / AsRock FM2A75 Pro4 / 8GB Corsair DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 / HD7560D / Samsung DVD-Burner / 1.5TB WD Green + 3x3TB WD RED in RAID5 Rig3: Athlon X2 4200+ / M4A79 Deluxe / 4GB G.Skill Pi DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 / GT430 / Sony DVD-Burner / 500GB WD Rig4: Phenom II x6 1605T @ 3.6GHz / Asus M5A99X Evo / 8GB PNY DDR3-1600 9-9-9 / GTX470 & GTX470 / Samsung DVD-Burner / 1.5TB Seagate

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Jul 7, 2010, 08:31 PM	#37
eidairaman1 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HTX Posts: 10,078 (4.69/day) Thanks: 1,359 Thanked 1,159 Times in 1,035 Posts System Specs	ok the Sapphire x1950 Pro Dual Came with either 512MB or 1024MB ram, meaning each GPU had 256MB or 512MB of ram aka GPU1=256, GPU 2=256 which is the Sx1950PD512 GPU1=512, GPU 2=512 which is the Sx1950PD1024 It also says Crossfire with ULPS is enabled on GPUz. __________________ Athlon XP USERS with COD 4 FIX http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...ls-202011.html http://www.howorks.com/2011/02/24/ho...-memory-limit/ “Sometimes my level of fail is unprecedented.” -TheMailMan78 “This is what the force of a thousand suns looks like.” -3870x2 Last edited by eidairaman1; Jul 7, 2010 at 08:37 PM.

Jul 8, 2010, 03:02 AM	#38
jehuty9800 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 8 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the guy i got it from show me it running with 512mb on each adapter, i put it into my computer, installed drivers and its say 256mb per gpu.

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eidairaman1 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HTX Posts: 10,078 (4.69/day) Thanks: 1,359 Thanked 1,159 Times in 1,035 Posts System Specs	whats your system specs and what was his? Also was this guy trustworthy? He could of modified the software code to show it has more than advertised, or modified it after-wards before he showed you. Only other Option is to check the service tag on the board itself, Or he Sent you 1 that is not what he advertised. __________________ Athlon XP USERS with COD 4 FIX http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...ls-202011.html http://www.howorks.com/2011/02/24/ho...-memory-limit/ “Sometimes my level of fail is unprecedented.” -TheMailMan78 “This is what the force of a thousand suns looks like.” -3870x2 Last edited by eidairaman1; Jul 8, 2010 at 03:19 AM.

Jul 8, 2010, 03:23 AM	#40
erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,914 (12.77/day) Thanks: 2,783 Thanked 12,276 Times in 7,815 Posts System Specs	I have a feeling it's something to do with the drivers or with XP x64. It could even be some sort of system bios issue not addressing the memory for some reason but I don't know what motherboard you are using. What drivers are you using and what drivers did you have installed before this card?

Jul 8, 2010, 03:28 AM	#41
eidairaman1 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HTX Posts: 10,078 (4.69/day) Thanks: 1,359 Thanked 1,159 Times in 1,035 Posts System Specs	another thing to try, make sure the powersupply is strong enough to provide juice needed on both 6 pin connectors and also ensure the board is fully seated in a PCI Express X16 Speed Slot __________________ Athlon XP USERS with COD 4 FIX http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...ls-202011.html http://www.howorks.com/2011/02/24/ho...-memory-limit/ “Sometimes my level of fail is unprecedented.” -TheMailMan78 “This is what the force of a thousand suns looks like.” -3870x2

Jul 9, 2010, 04:07 AM	#42
jehuty9800 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 8 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	well, my psu has one 6pin pic adapter and im using the 1 molez 2 6pin adapter that came with my X1900GT. it only has 3 wires going to the plug, would that affect anything? or should i get the 2molex 2 6pin pci that has 6 wires? would that change anything?

Jul 9, 2010, 04:03 PM	#43
eidairaman1 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HTX Posts: 10,078 (4.69/day) Thanks: 1,359 Thanked 1,159 Times in 1,035 Posts System Specs	Gonna tell you this now, Provide all and I MEAN ALL System Specs. __________________ Athlon XP USERS with COD 4 FIX http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...ls-202011.html http://www.howorks.com/2011/02/24/ho...-memory-limit/ “Sometimes my level of fail is unprecedented.” -TheMailMan78 “This is what the force of a thousand suns looks like.” -3870x2

Jul 9, 2010, 04:56 PM	#44
jehuty9800 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 8 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	okay, motherboard MSI K9A2-CF cpu- AMD athlon 64 x2 5400+ AM2+ cpu 5BG ram at 533mhz

Jul 9, 2010, 05:18 PM	#45
jehuty9800 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 8 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	okay, motherboard MSI K9A2-CF 790X NB SB600 cpu- AMD athlon 64 x2 5400+ AM2+ cpu @2.8ghz 5BG ram at 533mhz GPU sapphire X1950Pro dual 750W PSU seagate 320GB hdd 640GB hdd OS XP pro 64bit sp2 graphic driver ATI legacy drivers 10.2 thats all i can think of for right now

Jul 17, 2010, 09:53 PM	#47
jehuty9800 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 8 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hi, okay, ive been messing around for a bit, but i still have not gotten the card to read as 2 512 mb cards. but I did notice this, i was looking in the box i got with it and there is a adapter. it has 2 vga ports on it and 2 connectors on it. now, the video card also has the female connector ports on it. now, for curiosity i went into my display icon in control panel and went to settings. it shows 4 monitors! now i clicked each one and did a adapter check. its reading as 256mb per each monitor. so now i've been trying to figure out how to make the card have only 2 monitors instead of 4. it does explain the 256mb issues. my computer reads it as having 4 256mb video cars instead of 2 512mb. now HOW DO I MAKE THIS SHOW ONLY 2 MONITORS???????

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