Need advise on new build

pcgolfer85 · Apr 15, 2007, 04:32 PM

Here are the components I would like to go for:

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811235004
Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188016
Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103773
RAM:
(2) (total 2 GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144062
PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817379003
Video Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150189

What do you guys think? Any suggestions?

fafa21 · Apr 15, 2007, 04:44 PM

get this video card insted it's much bater and has dx10 http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814130082
and get this case
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811129021

pcgolfer85 · Apr 15, 2007, 05:22 PM

ok. i ordered it. i changed the video card to the msi 8800gts:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127278
i kept the case though. i really like the way the zalman case looks.

anticlutch · Apr 15, 2007, 05:32 PM

You should have stayed with the EVGA one as they provide a 'step up' program in which you can get a better card as long as you pay the difference in the price.

pcgolfer85 · Apr 15, 2007, 07:38 PM

Oh well. I didn't know.

I'm pretty excited about this build.

strick94u · Apr 15, 2007, 07:54 PM

that case cost toooooo much

pcgolfer85 · Apr 15, 2007, 08:05 PM

The case may be the most expensive case that I have ever purchased, but my friend currently owns one and it's quality.

bretts31344 · Apr 15, 2007, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcgolfer85

The case may be the most expensive case that I have ever purchased, but my friend currently owns one and it's quality.

But $380 shipped.... I haven't ever spent that much on one part before. And you know Antec makes quality cases at 1/3 that price. Either way, your new computer is going to be great.

pcgolfer85 · Apr 16, 2007, 12:56 AM

Anybody had any problems with the 8800GTS?

anticlutch · Apr 16, 2007, 01:34 AM

I have one, and it's pretty decent (except for that damned fogging issue on Source games...

)

pcgolfer85 · Apr 16, 2007, 02:07 AM

I am sorry...I am slow...what are Source games?

Chewy · Apr 16, 2007, 02:35 AM

I was going to get that psu but it was out of stock by the time my payment went trough.
you should look at this place and ask newegg to do a price match! http://www.us.ncix.com/products/inde...=ZALMAN%20TECH

I found that price awfully high for being USD, but what I was going to say is you might want something more powerful for when you go sli with another 8800gts.. Im not 100% sure but I think that psu has like 38-40amps on the 12v rail that might be the minimum for 8800sli but you shouldnt just go witht he minimum requirement, you need at least 20% headroom.

Just trying to help out, I figure you will go sli someday maybe but than you'll need a more powerful cpu if your not running your pc on a big screen with high resolution. :P

Edit: ah just seen that you had already ordered it... looks great anyway, will suit your needs for long time.

pcgolfer85 · Apr 16, 2007, 02:37 AM

The AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ is a good enough processor for gaming right? I mean, what is more powerful by AMD?

Chewy · Apr 16, 2007, 02:48 AM

Yeah that looks nice! I've seen 4600's lol and fx ones (Iknow nothing about amd cpus, Im a newbie).

I think some fx ones might have more power but it also costs $1000.

I heard of bottlenecking happening even with e6300 core2duos highly overclocked with an 8800gtx and seeing how c2d's are the fastest chipos out at the moment I figure with 2gts you would have a fairly big bottleneck with an amd cpu.. seeing how e6300 @ 3.2+ beats any amd chip in siencemark2 and gaming. including the top end fx chip.

I heard from someone who had built a computer with an e6300 cpu and 8800gts that there was a slight bottleneck by the cpu (even overclocked), but I find that hard to believe.

I think you'll be able to upgrade your cpu (to the newer to be released) at the start of nexted year if you felt the need for a second 8800gts, which I doubt you will need.

pcgolfer85 · Apr 16, 2007, 02:57 AM

Right on. Thanks for the quick response. I hope this build is a little faster than my current one:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ with 2 GB of RAM.

Question: Which video card would perform better:

ATI X1950 Pro (256 MB) OR MSI 8800 GTS (360 MB)? ...with the AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ and 2 GB of RAM?

Chewy · Apr 16, 2007, 03:16 AM

8800gts I believe got 2x the score of the pro in dx9 games.

. + your dx10 ready for when dx10 games come out. Im not sure about that chip but if your not planing on overclocking your cpu amd is the way to go, since that one is more than likely faster than a 6300 @ stock speed.

I'm clueless about amd cpus since I just really got into computers when core 2 duo came out and the price/performance ratio was leaning towards e6300, now amd have droped thier prices on chips.

anticlutch · Apr 16, 2007, 03:20 AM

What I meant by Source games is any game that uses Valve's Source engine (i.e. Counter-Strike: Source, or Dark Messiah, or Half-Life 2, etc.). When I compare my 8800gts's image quality to my x1950pro, it sucks big time (at least for me it does)... I think a better way to go would have been the x1950pro first then buying an ATI R600 card, but since you've already ordered the 8800gts, I guess there's nothing you can do

pcgolfer85 · Apr 16, 2007, 12:20 PM

So, will I be happy playing games on my build? I can't imagine that the components I ordered would making gaming horrible...

anticlutch · Apr 16, 2007, 10:18 PM

Don't stress about your parts; they should be fine

Apr 15, 2007, 04:32 PM	#1
pcgolfer85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 473 (0.21/day) Thanks: 66 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts	Need advise on new build Here are the components I would like to go for: Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811235004 Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188016 Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103773 RAM: (2) (total 2 GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144062 PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817379003 Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150189 What do you guys think? Any suggestions? Last edited by pcgolfer85; Apr 15, 2007 at 07:38 PM.

Apr 15, 2007, 04:44 PM	#2
fafa21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: U.S.A. maine portland Posts: 329 (0.15/day) Thanks: 49 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts System Specs	get this video card insted it's much bater and has dx10 http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814130082 and get this case http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811129021 Last edited by fafa21; Apr 15, 2007 at 08:31 PM.

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Motherboard:	asus x38 p5e
Cooling:	7 fans
Memory:	6gb 1X1 gb ozc and 2X2 gb gskills 1066mhz
Video Card:	powercolor hd 6870 1gb 256-bit GDDR5
Hard Disk:	1t seagate barracuda and one 300 gb velociraptor and 250 GB wd caviar for backups
Optical Drive:	LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 3
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Case:	antec 900
Sound Card:	x-plosion 7.1 cinema.
PSU:	extreme rosewill 750 watts
Software:	triple boot windows xp pro 32bit and vista home premium 64bit and windows 7 premuim
Benchmarks:	4330 in 3dmark 11

Processor:	Intel C2D E6420 (3.2 gHz @ 1.365v)
Motherboard:	Gigabyte 965P-DS3
Cooling:	Zalman CNPS9500 LED
Memory:	4 x 512mb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 667
Video Card:	Visiontek HD 4870 512mb
Hard Disk:	200gb Maxtor SATA, 400gb WD SATA
Optical Drive:	2 x Pioneer DVD+/- RW Dual Layer
Sound Card:	Audigy 2 ZS
Software:	Windows XP Pro SP2

Apr 15, 2007, 07:54 PM	#6
strick94u Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,308 (0.51/day) Thanks: 80 Thanked 71 Times in 64 Posts System Specs	that case cost toooooo much __________________ http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5404335

Apr 15, 2007, 05:22 PM	#3
pcgolfer85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 473 (0.21/day) Thanks: 66 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts	ok. i ordered it. i changed the video card to the msi 8800gts: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127278 i kept the case though. i really like the way the zalman case looks.

Apr 15, 2007, 05:32 PM	#4
anticlutch Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 768 (0.31/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts System Specs	You should have stayed with the EVGA one as they provide a 'step up' program in which you can get a better card as long as you pay the difference in the price.

Apr 15, 2007, 07:38 PM	#5
pcgolfer85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 473 (0.21/day) Thanks: 66 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts	Oh well. I didn't know. I'm pretty excited about this build.

System Name:	CrashMaster 17.2/ crashmaster(M) ROG
Processor:	CD2 E8400@4.0 ghz/ i5 430@ 2.577 mhz
Motherboard:	EVGA 680i/ patogram inc intel north bridge
Cooling:	Monsoon vigor gaming II/ fan and vents
Memory:	4 gig OCZ pc8500 DDR2/ 4 gigs ddr3
Video Card:	2 X EVGA 8800gts 512 735/1045/nvidia 360 gtsm gddr5
Hard Disk:	2 X WD 150 Raptors Raid 0+600gig usb/ 500 gig hitachi
Optical Drive:	18X rw DVD Writemaster Light scribe/same just smaller
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung 2232 bw Sync Master 22" HD/16.9 inch asus
Case:	Enermax uber chakra/ asus republic of gamers
Sound Card:	Creative SB X-FI 5.1 speakers/creative eax 4.0
PSU:	OCZ extream Gaming 650 watt 4x18a/ external
Software:	Dos 6.22/ win 3.11 for networks/ms bob server
Benchmarks:	3dmark06 18,201/10601 3dmark05 23,943/not run Aquamark 218,094/not run

Apr 15, 2007, 08:05 PM	#7
pcgolfer85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 473 (0.21/day) Thanks: 66 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts	The case may be the most expensive case that I have ever purchased, but my friend currently owns one and it's quality.

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Memory:	G. Skill 4GB
Video Card:	GTS 250
Hard Disk:	1TB Samung X2 Raid 0
CRT/LCD Model:	26" Asus Monitor
Case:	P180B w/ 182 features
Sound Card:	Creative Sound Blaster Audigy ZS 2
PSU:	Corsair 650w PSU
Software:	Windows 7 x64

Apr 16, 2007, 12:56 AM	#9
pcgolfer85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 473 (0.21/day) Thanks: 66 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts	Anybody had any problems with the 8800GTS?

Apr 16, 2007, 01:34 AM	#10
anticlutch Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 768 (0.31/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts System Specs	I have one, and it's pretty decent (except for that damned fogging issue on Source games... )

Apr 16, 2007, 02:07 AM	#11
pcgolfer85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 473 (0.21/day) Thanks: 66 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts	I am sorry...I am slow...what are Source games?

Apr 16, 2007, 02:35 AM	#12
Chewy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 2,616 (1.04/day) Thanks: 325 Thanked 151 Times in 140 Posts System Specs	I was going to get that psu but it was out of stock by the time my payment went trough. you should look at this place and ask newegg to do a price match! http://www.us.ncix.com/products/inde...=ZALMAN%20TECH I found that price awfully high for being USD, but what I was going to say is you might want something more powerful for when you go sli with another 8800gts.. Im not 100% sure but I think that psu has like 38-40amps on the 12v rail that might be the minimum for 8800sli but you shouldnt just go witht he minimum requirement, you need at least 20% headroom. Just trying to help out, I figure you will go sli someday maybe but than you'll need a more powerful cpu if your not running your pc on a big screen with high resolution. :P Edit: ah just seen that you had already ordered it... looks great anyway, will suit your needs for long time. __________________ BUGABUGABUGABUGAAAAA! From_Nowhere's perspective on Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Gates Promoting Windows Vista. “Mac: "Woah, what are you doing?" Mac says as he levitates in the air. PC: "Playing Half-Life 2, this is my gravity gun." Mac: "Well I can sort of do that." PC: "Technically Mac, you have to become me first."” -From_Nowhere

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Apr 16, 2007, 02:37 AM	#13
pcgolfer85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 473 (0.21/day) Thanks: 66 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts	The AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ is a good enough processor for gaming right? I mean, what is more powerful by AMD? Last edited by pcgolfer85; Apr 16, 2007 at 02:47 AM.

Apr 16, 2007, 02:48 AM	#14
Chewy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 2,616 (1.04/day) Thanks: 325 Thanked 151 Times in 140 Posts System Specs	Yeah that looks nice! I've seen 4600's lol and fx ones (Iknow nothing about amd cpus, Im a newbie). I think some fx ones might have more power but it also costs $1000. I heard of bottlenecking happening even with e6300 core2duos highly overclocked with an 8800gtx and seeing how c2d's are the fastest chipos out at the moment I figure with 2gts you would have a fairly big bottleneck with an amd cpu.. seeing how e6300 @ 3.2+ beats any amd chip in siencemark2 and gaming. including the top end fx chip. I heard from someone who had built a computer with an e6300 cpu and 8800gts that there was a slight bottleneck by the cpu (even overclocked), but I find that hard to believe. I think you'll be able to upgrade your cpu (to the newer to be released) at the start of nexted year if you felt the need for a second 8800gts, which I doubt you will need. __________________ BUGABUGABUGABUGAAAAA! From_Nowhere's perspective on Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Gates Promoting Windows Vista. “Mac: "Woah, what are you doing?" Mac says as he levitates in the air. PC: "Playing Half-Life 2, this is my gravity gun." Mac: "Well I can sort of do that." PC: "Technically Mac, you have to become me first."” -From_Nowhere

Apr 16, 2007, 02:57 AM	#15
pcgolfer85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 473 (0.21/day) Thanks: 66 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts	Right on. Thanks for the quick response. I hope this build is a little faster than my current one: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ with 2 GB of RAM. Question: Which video card would perform better: ATI X1950 Pro (256 MB) OR MSI 8800 GTS (360 MB)? ...with the AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ and 2 GB of RAM?

Apr 16, 2007, 03:16 AM	#16
Chewy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 2,616 (1.04/day) Thanks: 325 Thanked 151 Times in 140 Posts System Specs	8800gts I believe got 2x the score of the pro in dx9 games. . + your dx10 ready for when dx10 games come out. Im not sure about that chip but if your not planing on overclocking your cpu amd is the way to go, since that one is more than likely faster than a 6300 @ stock speed. I'm clueless about amd cpus since I just really got into computers when core 2 duo came out and the price/performance ratio was leaning towards e6300, now amd have droped thier prices on chips. __________________ BUGABUGABUGABUGAAAAA! From_Nowhere's perspective on Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Gates Promoting Windows Vista. “Mac: "Woah, what are you doing?" Mac says as he levitates in the air. PC: "Playing Half-Life 2, this is my gravity gun." Mac: "Well I can sort of do that." PC: "Technically Mac, you have to become me first."” -From_Nowhere

Apr 16, 2007, 03:20 AM	#17
anticlutch Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 768 (0.31/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts System Specs	What I meant by Source games is any game that uses Valve's Source engine (i.e. Counter-Strike: Source, or Dark Messiah, or Half-Life 2, etc.). When I compare my 8800gts's image quality to my x1950pro, it sucks big time (at least for me it does)... I think a better way to go would have been the x1950pro first then buying an ATI R600 card, but since you've already ordered the 8800gts, I guess there's nothing you can do

Apr 16, 2007, 12:20 PM	#18
pcgolfer85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 473 (0.21/day) Thanks: 66 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts	So, will I be happy playing games on my build? I can't imagine that the components I ordered would making gaming horrible...

Apr 16, 2007, 10:18 PM	#19
anticlutch Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 768 (0.31/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts System Specs	Don't stress about your parts; they should be fine

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