ScienceMark thread (with score list)

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

255 in bios should be perfectly safe, im just thinking more if your RAM doesnt like the few MHz more you will have to reset your bios vs just hitting the reset button on the case.

Then, I will give that a go!

255FSB in BIOS, w/ the looser timings you mentioned initially!

I.E.-> Trc/Trfc 12 or 16
Tras 8
Twr & Trtw 2
PCI Clock 101 (up to 105)

Most are done now, except for the Trc/Trfc being THAT loose (16 especially)...

Your saying that 285 isn't unrealistic (earlier on here or in the ScienceMark 2.0 thread) using them, which is GOOD, is something for me to try when it cools down tomorrow a.m.!

(Gonna beat Tigger69, lol!)



* Thanks man!

APK

[Alec§taar]

CPU-z 1.35 CPU-mhz (2798mhz):



&

CPU-z 1.35 RAM-mhz (199.8/200mhz):



ScienceMark 2.0 Score @ those settings above, & BIOS settings below:





BIOS OVERCLOCKING DATA (for reference):

CPU HTT Frequency = 4x

DRAM CONFIGURATION:

CAS# Latency Tcl = 2
Min RAS# Active Time Tras = 8T (up from 7T)
RAS# to CAS# Delay Trcl = 3T
Row Precharge Time Trp = 3T
Row Cycle Time Trc = 12T (up from 10T)
Row Refresh Cycle Time Trk = 13T
Read to Write Trwt = 2T (down from 3T)
Write Recovery Time = 2T (down from 3T)
1t/2t = 1t

JUMPER FREE CONFIGURATION DATA:

O/C Profile = Manual
CPU Frequency = 254mhz
PCI Clock = 101mhz (upped from 100mhz default)
DDR Voltage = AUTO (cannot do over 2.6v on my RAM, tried it already 2x)
Chipset Voltage = 1.6V (max)
HT Voltage = 1.25V (max)
CPU Mult = 11x
CPU Volt = 1.5V (max)

TECHPOWERUP FORUMS SCIENCEMARK 2.0 BENCHMARK CURRENT STANDINGS AS OF 08/08/2006:

Devious = 2181.97 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz)
MikeLopez = 1700.24 (via 7x mult. X 428mhz FSB - Intel Core2Duo E6300@2996mhz)
Urlyin = 1537.93 (175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz)
Dj Dn = 1446.18 (Opteron 165 2700mhz)
Tigger69 = 1431.51 (Pentium D930@4385mhz)
Alec§taar = 1428.17 (via 11x mult. X 254mhz FSB: AMD ATHLON 64X2 4800+ CPU@2797mhz & RAM@199.8/200mhz)
_33 = 1395.99 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2856MHZ)
Lekamies = 1371.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2700mhz)
Steevo = 1360 (AMD 4000+ San Diego @ 3.0 1.65vcore)
JNT Raptor = 1334.32 (AMD ATHLON X2 3800+@2616mhz)
pt = 1256.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2500mhz)
Ketxxx = 1140.97 (A64 3200+ @ 2.55GHz - Winchester)
Canuto = 1112.11 (Pentium D 930 @ 3300mhz)
cdawall = 1036.22 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2440mhz)
Polaris573 = 1001.86 (P4 Northwood@3.2GHz)
Solaris17 = 886.72 (AMD ATHLON XP@2340MHZ)



* There ya are: Updated (w/ MY updated/better score, 2 points better than before)...

APK

P.S.=> Can't QUITE get to Tigger69's 1431, yet (wait until winter lol) & I am happy w/ my progress here in the ScienceMark 2.0 benchmark & stability tests here on these forums:

1390 -> 1401 -> 1414 -> 1423 -> 1426 -> 1428++...

IMO @ least - I'm not going to catch Tigger69 today, it's heating up outside by this point, but I am happy though & I think I am "peaking-out" as you say...

Tigger69's @ 1431, & now? I am ONLY 3 points behind, & I can live w/ that... lol! apk

[Ketxxx]

beware, my clocking brain is getting itchy and so is my sense for new hardware

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by Alec§taar

TECHPOWERUP FORUMS SCIENCEMARK 2.0 BENCHMARK CURRENT STANDINGS AS OF 08/08/2006:

Devious = 2181.97 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz)
MikeLopez = 1700.24 (via 7x mult. X 428mhz FSB - Intel Core2Duo E6300@2996mhz)
Urlyin = 1537.93 (175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz)
Dj Dn = 1446.18 (Opteron 165 2700mhz)
Tigger69 = 1431.51 (Pentium D930@4385mhz)
Alec§taar = 1428.17 (via 11x mult. X 254mhz FSB: AMD ATHLON 64X2 4800+ CPU@2797mhz & RAM@199.8/200mhz)
_33 = 1395.99 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2856MHZ)
Lekamies = 1371.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2700mhz)
Steevo = 1360 (AMD 4000+ San Diego @ 3.0 1.65vcore)
JNT Raptor = 1334.32 (AMD ATHLON X2 3800+@2616mhz)
pt = 1256.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2500mhz)
Ketxxx = 1140.97 (A64 3200+ @ 2.55GHz - Winchester)
Canuto = 1112.11 (Pentium D 930 @ 3300mhz)
cdawall = 1036.22 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2440mhz)
Polaris573 = 1001.86 (P4 Northwood@3.2GHz)
Solaris17 = 886.72 (AMD ATHLON XP@2340MHZ)

crap i keep moving down anyone got suggestions (read ketxxx) btw this is running stock hsf adn 4xhtt (it wasnt 100% stable at the 3xhtt setting this has ddr2100 in it currently running at the speed shown (near ddr2700) temp max at 55C under load (in scm2)

[pt]

Alec, just put a normal fan directly into the components at max speed, tomorrow i will try some best scores, 'cause today is hot as hell in here, about 38ºc

[cdawall]

shove a 20in box fan next to your comp w/ the side off we will forgive you as long as you beat those c2ds you and the opterons are the only ones who can come close (sry pd930 i think you are maxed out )

[dj_dn]

Here is my new and improved score, using tighter timings but I can’t seam to get my cpu pass 2.7ghz with my motherboard. My mainboard doesn’t post when I put my ram divider to 2:3(133 MHz) but when I put it to 5:6(166 MHz) it boots. It also doesn’t like it when I bring down the multiplier.

So for the time being my best results and best stability is at:
Cpu: 2700mhz @ 1.350
Motherboard: Htt 300, 3x
Ram: 245, 3-3-3-6-1T


Any tips on how to get a better OC would be greatly appreciated. Settings I got in bios are: Cas latency, Tras, Trp, TRCD, Trrd, Trc, Ma timings, burst length, bank interleaving, memory hole.

[Casheti]

whoa...that's a nice system...how do you run games??

[dj_dn]

Originally Posted by Casheti

whoa...that's a nice system...how do you run games??

Well my best 3dmark05 score is 6616http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2122155
. I will try for a better one once i get my new HDD and reformat Windows. I should get it by tomorrow, it’s a ST3320620AS.

[Casheti]

Yeah...I need to format too...does anyone know any software to disable accoustic management on my HDD???

And tigger..you should be worried...you're gonna get taken out soon...

[Ketxxx]

Originally Posted by cdawall

crap i keep moving down anyone got suggestions (read ketxxx) btw this is running stock hsf adn 4xhtt (it wasnt 100% stable at the 3xhtt setting this has ddr2100 in it currently running at the speed shown (near ddr2700) temp max at 55C under load (in scm2)

hey, my score of 1140 is entirely stock, i just tune everything up nice

as for increasing your score..give lots of details and ill pick things apart for u to try.

[pt]

Originally Posted by Casheti

Yeah...I need to format too...does anyone know any software to disable accoustic management on my HDD???

And tigger..you should be worried...you're gonna get taken out soon...

Systool can enable it, disable i don't know, why do you want to disable it?

[Casheti]

Because I want max performance...regardless of noise..

[Alec§taar]

TECHPOWERUP FORUMS SCIENCEMARK 2.0 BENCHMARK CURRENT STANDINGS AS OF 08/08/2006:

Devious = 2181.97 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz)
MikeLopez = 1700.24 (via 7x mult. X 428mhz FSB - Intel Core2Duo E6300@2996mhz)
Urlyin = 1537.93 (175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz)
Dj Dn = 1446.18-> 1461.97 (Opteron 165 2700mhz)
Tigger69 = 1431.51 (Pentium D930@4385mhz)
Alec§taar = 1390->1401->1423->1426->1428.17 (AMD Athlon 64X2 4800+/11x X 254mhz FSB/CPU@2797 & RAM@199.8/200)
_33 = 1395.99 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2856MHZ)
Lekamies = 1371.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2700mhz)
Steevo = 1360 (AMD 4000+ San Diego @ 3.0 1.65vcore)
JNT Raptor = 1334.32 (AMD ATHLON X2 3800+@2616mhz)
pt = 1256.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2500mhz)
Ketxxx = 1140.97 (A64 3200+ @ 2.55GHz - Winchester)
Canuto = 1112.11 (Pentium D 930 @ 3300mhz)
cdawall = 1036.22 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2440mhz)
Polaris573 = 1001.86 (P4 Northwood@3.2GHz)
Solaris17 = 886.72 (AMD ATHLON XP@2340MHZ)



* There ya are: Updated (w/ dj dn's now updated/better score, 15 points better than before)...

APK

[Canuto]

You just need 4 more points

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by Canuto

You just need 4 more points

If you're speaking to me? Yea, that is about it...

When it's "COLD" tomorrow A.M. (around 6-7:30 a.m. or thereabouts)??

I'll try it again @ 255mhz FSB & see what happens...



Why not, right?

Ambient temperatures have a LOT to do w/ it, imo @ least, because I am getting FAR better o/c's when it's colder outside!

("colder", as in compared to the heatwave & 100++ F days in temps lately)...

E.G.-> Today's around 70-80 F & it's perfect to try the higher o/c's & they're working now, & didn't in the 100++ F heated days, for certain not.

* I say that, because I tried 252-254 clocks in the heatwave 100 F days, & failed the ScienceMark 2.0 test, period (would stop completely & "Crash" disappear, or just start halting tests or showing WEIRD results)...

APK

P.S.=> One thing I'll like about winter again - I'll be able to o/c higher imo, just based on what I've seen so far in temperatures ranging from 58F -> 101F... apk

[pt]

Originally Posted by Canuto

You just need 4 more points

And i need a 100pts to beat JNT Raptor = 1334.32 (AMD ATHLON X2 3800+@2616mhz)
, tomorrow is overcloking day for me, gonna get a lot of fans
be afraid Raptor, be very afraid

[Canuto]

Well i've only tried 3.450Ghz yet but if i keep Oc'in i can go higher in the ranks.

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by Canuto

Well i've only tried 3.450Ghz yet but if i keep Oc'in i can go higher in the ranks.

Know what?

That's cool & all (the competitive side) & I "get off" on that (for lack of a better term, lol) as much as the next guy I suppose also...

Heck, why not?

I like to see what I can put together vs. others (since this is a componentry assembling hobby basically) first of all...

However, more importantly/secondly & personally for me @ least??



* Finding out where & how to o/c for more performance, AND find where your system is stable as well!

(Do this & imo? You really get to KNOW your machine, & @ what temperatures you can push + how far & with what settings!)

APK

P.S.=> Overall, so far?

WELL, by testing first w/ the ScienceMark 2.0 program, then Folding@Home console mode app using "-forceasm", & lastly playing Quake 4 SMP for as long as it will before messing up (which @ my highest OC so far, 254FSB driven one, it did after 5 minutes of play or so, twice now)?

I found that the 250-251mhz FSB range has been the MOST stable for me overall using an 11x multiplier, & I can run that as long as surrounding ambient temps stay below 85-90F (and beyond of course)... if the temperature around me goes higher than 85-90F, I will downclock if I do a heavy task most likely!

At that range, my system is ABSOLUTELY stable for ALL things by using 11 multiplier x 250-251 FSB = 2751-2772mhz CPU & 197-198/200mhz RAM... apk

[pt]

Alec, you said a few days ago that this thread was dying, it look like it's back to life
Main question:
Wich are the recommended max temps for an ATHLON 3000+, and the max recommended voltage on air, and also the max temp. for the NFORCE 5 nvidia chipset, 'cause this thing runs hot 40ºc on Idle, if i put Watercooling on the CPU it will surely rise a bit more, and i don't want that

[{JNT}Raptor]

Originally Posted by pt

And i need a 100pts to beat JNT Raptor = 1334.32 (AMD ATHLON X2 3800+@2616mhz)
, tomorrow is overcloking day for me, gonna get a lot of fans
be afraid Raptor, be very afraid

Fear Is a great motivator.........Talks cheap though.......Lets Dance.

I'll be swapping out my 2gig kit for a 512 stick I have rated to 260Mhz.....and see what It does for me.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

hey, my score of 1140 is entirely stock, i just tune everything up nice

as for increasing your score..give lots of details and ill pick things apart for u to try.

it is cooled by stock hsf but i have an heavyduty 80mm i can kinda strap on it (it is about 65-70cfm) my a64 is s754 and i have a machspeed k8m8ms (the most stable board ever) it is safe on the htt up to 976 (so far at least for the summer) my ram timings are in the pic so is everything else the hdd is a 60gb maxtor ata 133 (4mb or 8mb cache dont remeber) and as soon as i get a couple of $$$s i will be getting 2 sticks of ddr400 (512x2) nothing special just your standard ram (a stick of ultra and a centon 3.0-3-3-8 stock timings) but till then anything i can improve???
btw i have a ultra 4 bay case w/ 5x 80mm fans in it(3x 30cfm in 1x 30cfm out and 1x 65-70cfm out)

[pt]

Originally Posted by {JNT}Raptor

Fear Is a great motivator.........Talks cheap though.......Lets Dance.

I'll be swapping out my 2gig kit for a 512 stick I have rated to 260Mhz.....and see what It does for me.

that's not fair
Damn, look like i'm going after steevo

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by pt

Alec, you said a few days ago that this thread was dying, it look like it's back to life

Well, I got "into it" again, for me personally, as far as overclock attempts but for GOOD reason: The weather was 'permitting'...

MAINLY because we had a "COLD DAY" today (75-80F, vs. the 90-101++ the last 2-3 weeks straight this summer)...

I figured I could "get more" outta my rig, & before temps rise again - just to "get a glimpse" of what my system CAN or MOST LIKELY WILL be like overclocked when Fall/Winter lower temps come into play...

(Homes I live in? They NEVER gets above 62F on the thermostat, simply because I don't like paying the bills for heat is why & I can always "bundle up" some etc. to compensate).

In the room where my PC is? There IS no heat here, lol, I blocked the ducts so they route better to another room (just temporary) - my PC truly IS MY HEATER in said room!

That said, I can always open a window in the fall/winter & make it colder than 62F ambient in here IF needed, but I doubt it.

Originally Posted by pt

Main question:
Wich are the recommended max temps for an ATHLON 3000+, and the max recommended voltage on air, and also the max temp. for the NFORCE 5 nvidia chipset, 'cause this thing runs hot 40ºc on Idle, if i put Watercooling on the CPU it will surely rise a bit more, and i don't want that

That I am NOT an "expert" on, but I find that if I stay between 35-48C for my rig here (see signature for specs) it runs stable... maybe a bit more, but I have seen intensive apps like this test we are using "spike" the CPU core temps to 60C & beyond... not good that high!

APK

[dj_dn]

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

hey, my score of 1140 is entirely stock, i just tune everything up nice

as for increasing your score..give lots of details and ill pick things apart for u to try.

I know you weren’t talking to me but can you help me squeeze a little more out of my system. Some extra info can be found in this post http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpo...&postcount=257