AMD Native x86 Quad-Cores Shipping In August

error_f0rce · Jun 29, 2007, 08:04 PM

AMD announced today that Quad-Core AMD Opteron™ processors, code-named “Barcelona,” are planned for shipment in both standard and low power versions at launch later this summer. This would be the first time AMD has made both standard and low power parts immediately available as part of a new processor launch.

During this first launch, processor speeds are expected to be available up to 2.0 GHz.

Source: AMD.com

WarEagleAU · Jun 29, 2007, 08:07 PM

nice native quad core. now if they can get the phenoms up in normal time.

DaMulta · Jun 29, 2007, 08:18 PM

I wonder what socket they will be.

a111087 · Jun 29, 2007, 08:19 PM

probably F socket

Random Murderer · Jun 29, 2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by a111087

probably F socket

nope. am3. amd announced that they will be reverse-compatible with am2.

Atech · Jun 29, 2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Random Murderer

nope. am3. amd announced that they will be reverse-compatible with am2.

What, even with these pre-"consumer" release workstation and server orientated Opterons?

That kind of defeats their tried and tested release model :/ I really hope they know what they're doing ... where's the incentive for non-professionals to wait for non-professional orientated processors?

So basically their early professional-orientated Opterons are exactly the same as the non-professionally orientated processors. They're just literally rebranded processors. So not even ECC memory, or more HT links? Does this mean that we'll basically (as non-professionals) be able to scale these processors linearly with appropriate mainboards?

Edit: Didn't mean to thank you. Clicked on the wrong darned button.

Edit #2: Coming to thing about it, this is brilliant news for customers. No longer needing to pay for enterprise hardware ... Sun Microsystems out of business in 5, 4, 3 ... :P

Easy Rhino · Jun 29, 2007, 09:33 PM

what about 64bit?

Ripper3 · Jun 29, 2007, 10:15 PM

I think/hope it's native quad-core, and was supposed to be x86-64, but who knows, maybe AMD is planning on doing a completely turn around saying, "Y'know what? Fuck 64-bit"
After that, they then shoot down ATi, and go off to hang themselves.

Either that or it could just be a typo. Who knows.

hat · Jun 29, 2007, 10:19 PM

4 cores. 32 bit?

rampage · Jun 29, 2007, 10:23 PM

im thinking the same ... only 32 bit?? no 64 bit?

kwchang007 · Jun 29, 2007, 10:25 PM

defiantly 64 bit compatible.....considering they have 64 bit compatible cpus out now. this is good news......something to finally compete with kentsfield, competition only benfits the consumer

ChaoticBlankness · Jun 29, 2007, 11:12 PM

Technically the 64bit we all know and love is a form of x86. More specifically called, x86-64.

However marketing people like to call it X64, AMD64 (Even though AMD did "invent" it), and INTEL 64 which was previously called EM64T.

a111087 · Jun 29, 2007, 11:36 PM

thats cool, don't have to buy another mobo

ChaoticBlankness · Jun 29, 2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Random Murderer

nope. am3. amd announced that they will be reverse-compatible with am2.

It's actually AM2+, AM3 will have DDR3 support.

trt740 · Jun 30, 2007, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by error_f0rce

AMD announced today that Quad-Core AMD Opteron™ processors, code-named “Barcelona,” are planned for shipment in both standard and low power versions at launch later this summer. This would be the first time AMD has made both standard and low power parts immediately available as part of a new processor launch.

During this first launch, processor speeds are expected to be available up to 2.0 GHz.

Source: AMD.com

Thank freaking goodness hope this turns out alright AMD has had a hard way to go lately.

PVTCaboose1337 · Jun 30, 2007, 02:59 AM

So does this mean it will work in my mobo!?!?!

hat · Jun 30, 2007, 03:08 AM

You can answer that question by asking yourself if your motherboard is AM2. If the answer is yes, the other answer is yes.

ryboto · Jun 30, 2007, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaoticBlankness

It's actually AM2+, AM3 will have DDR3 support.

Actually, Barcelona is Socket 1207, not AM2+. Budapest is the chip for desktops.

Atech · Jun 30, 2007, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ryboto

Actually, Barcelona is Socket 1207, not AM2+. Budapest is the chip for desktops.

I thought someone was being somewhat overly optimistic

Widjaja · Jun 30, 2007, 11:32 AM

I've just gone to an AMD rig and finding it way better than my Intel P4.
Hope fully AMD do a good job of this CPU and beat the Intel C2D.

DanTheBanjoman · Jun 30, 2007, 11:45 AM

I have the feeling that with every news about Barcelona people start comparing it to C2D and I end up saying that Barcelona is no a desktop product and therefor it is pointless to compare it.

Dippyskoodlez · Jun 30, 2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

I have the feeling that with every news about Barcelona people start comparing it to C2D and I end up saying that Barcelona is no a desktop product and therefor it is pointless to compare it.

Its all people know

ryboto · Jun 30, 2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

I have the feeling that with every news about Barcelona people start comparing it to C2D and I end up saying that Barcelona is no a desktop product and therefor it is pointless to compare it.

Just because it's a server part, doesn't mean we can't compare. The Xeons use the same Core 2 arch that the C2D's use. The Barcelona chips are the same K10 arch that will go into the desktop, so why can't we test them against each other?

Dippyskoodlez · Jun 30, 2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ryboto

Just because it's a server part, doesn't mean we can't compare. The Xeons use the same Core 2 arch that the C2D's use. The Barcelona chips are the same K10 arch that will go into the desktop, so why can't we test them against each other?

is why.

May I draw your attention to the part labeled #2.

Also known as a 256bit memory bus.

DanTheBanjoman · Jun 30, 2007, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryboto

Just because it's a server part, doesn't mean we can't compare. The Xeons use the same Core 2 arch that the C2D's use. The Barcelona chips are the same K10 arch that will go into the desktop, so why can't we test them against each other?

Like Dippy said, it's a different platform. Different chipset, different memory subsystem. Who cares if the server platform beats the competitions desktop platform?

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