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Old Jul 14, 2007, 07:57 PM   #1
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Thinking About Future Upgrades...

Well, I want to upgrade my computer, but I thought that I'm just going to wait until Windows Vista is becoming more and more required for games, as well as DirectX 10. So I was wondering, if I upgrade my computer around next summer, will I be able to get a Mid-Range System for around $700?

The parts that I need to upgrade are:
  • Motherboard
  • Processor
  • Memory/RAM
  • Video Card
  • PSU

I'm keeping the same cooling (assuming my Big Typhoon will still be a decent cooler), same HDD (2x80GB), same DVD Burner, same Case.

Could a $700 Budget get Mid-Range parts? Including Vista?

Let's say, $100-$150 for a Motherboard, $150-$200 for a Processor, $100 for 2GB RAM, $200 for Mid-Range GPU, $50-$75 for PSU to handle all, and $111 for Windows Vista. That would be about $711-$836 Total. Would I be able to get a Mid-Range System for all of that?

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Old Jul 14, 2007, 08:12 PM   #2
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Should be a relativly high end PC for $700-$800.

Although $111 seems a bit much for vista, but I've not looked at pricing. Educational license for $15 ftw.
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yeah, you'll probably have enough money for a good build by then.
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So you're saying with $700-$800 will be better than Mid-Range?

And yeah, $111 is the Home Premium OEM.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116202

Hopefully, by the time I get this PC, some of the prices will have dropped.
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So you're saying with $700-$800 will be better than Mid-Range?

Hopefully, by the time I get this PC, some of the prices will have dropped.
$700-$800 should get a Mid-High end PC today.. next year I would sure hope its the same..
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go $270 for a q6600 quad core cpu

double your ram to 4gb $200 (2gb is bare minimum necessary to run vista)
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go $270 for a q6600 quad core cpu

double your ram to 4gb $200 (2gb is bare minimum necessary to run vista)
If I have the money I'll think about it. Let's say by the time I get the computer, I only have enough money for one or the other, which is better to get, Q6600, or 4GB?
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If I have the money I'll think about it. Let's say by the time I get the computer, I only have enough money for one or the other, which is better to get, Q6600, or 4GB?
i say the 4gb is required more than a quad core but the reason i say go quad is they are just barely higher than a dual core price.

my opinion is if you cant do both then go with cheaper gpu so you can do both and then you can upgrade the gpu later on.

if your psu is 500watts you can keep your old psu for the new build as well and save $.
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I was thinking that too, if the new system won't take as much power, I was hoping my 500 Watt PSU would work.

I would have more money but I need shoes
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I would have more money but I need shoes
Shoes are only $60-$70 man!
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Shoes are only $60-$70 man!
Not mine Dippy, not mine. And I buy quite a few too to match with everything I wear.

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Not mine Dippy, not mine. And I buy quite a few too to match with everything I wear.

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wow.

I have tennis shoes.

Dress shoes.


and I'm set for a few years.


These 2 pairs match everything I wear, too.
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Back to the computer...what if I stuck to AMD 939? Bad idea...? Saves money...
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Back to the computer...what if I stuck to AMD 939? Bad idea...? Saves money...
Won't have new CPU's or memory, as next year you'll probably be drooling over DDR3 mobos
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I was thinking that too, if the new system won't take as much power, I was hoping my 500 Watt PSU would work.

I would have more money but I need shoes
very rarely do computers need over 400watts because its the amps that matter not watts.
i always like to have more than i need so for me 500watts is the standard psu to use.

the amps don't get any higher for the most part when you get to 500watts and over so a 1000watt psu gives you the same 18amp power that the 500 will but you spent a whole lot more $ for it and all you really get out of it is a ton more heat from it lol. the difference is a 400-500watt may last you for 5yrs where the 300watt only lasts 4yrs because the 300watt works a little harder to put out the amps, once you get over 400watts this no longer changes because 400watt and over transformers (this is all a psu really is) all put out the amps with very little effort so this really isnt anything to think about when buying one.

there are some psu that put out more amps than the average psu but this is not governed by the watts they are rated at so look at the amp outputs to guide you if more power is required.
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Won't have new CPU's or memory, as next year you'll probably be drooling over DDR3 mobos
So, better to move on? Btw, Intel will still be using LGA 775 right?
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Btw, Intel will still be using LGA 775 right?
Who knows.
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The 45nm's are going to be LGA 775

Is that what you wanted to know ?
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very rarely do computers need over 400watts because its the amps that matter not watts.
i always like to have more than i need so for me 500watts is the standard psu to use.

the amps don't get any higher for the most part when you get to 500watts and over so a 1000watt psu gives you the same 18amp power that the 500 will but you spent a whole lot more $ for it and all you really get out of it is a ton more heat from it lol. the difference is a 400-500watt may last you for 5yrs where the 300watt only lasts 4yrs because the 300watt works a little harder to put out the amps, once you get over 400watts this no longer changes because 400watt and over transformers (this is all a psu really is) all put out the amps with very little effort so this really isnt anything to think about when buying one.

there are some psu that put out more amps than the average psu but this is not governed by the watts they are rated at so look at the amp outputs to guide you if more power is required.
So if I can, should I just hold on to my 500 Watt PSU?
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The 45nm's are going to be LGA 775

Is that what you wanted to know ?
I just wanted to know if newer Processors from Intel are going to be LGA 775, so I could still use the same cooler (Big Typhoon) when I upgrade.
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I just wanted to know if newer Processors from Intel are going to be LGA 775, so I could still use the same cooler (Big Typhoon) when I upgrade.
Well the peny or what ever there called that are 45nm are going to be LGA 775 which the P35 etc. already support them


but idk whats going to be out by next summer lol
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Well the peny or what ever there called that are 45nm are going to be LGA 775 which the P35 etc. already support them


but idk whats going to be out by next summer lol
Neither do I...but I just hope $700-$800 can buy a Mid-High Range System...would have more money, but again, I need shoes!
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Neither do I...but I just hope $700-$800 can buy a Mid-High Range System...would have more money, but again, I need shoes!
idk about those shoes there ugly imo for that much why not go to footlocker, finishline or get some cheaper ones like -$150 thats the most I spent no way i'll spend 225 I can get 2 pair for that much

But the cpus that are going to come out are 775 but I bet for the newer ones your going to need a new mobo like it is now
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So if I can, should I just hold on to my 500 Watt PSU?
yes

and if you had to you could reuse your old gpu till you saved up more $ and get a new gpu next xmas
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yes

and if you had to you could reuse your old gpu till you saved up more $ and get a new gpu next xmas
Hey! That's true! Thanks. And if I need more power, can't I just add this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153037
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