RIAA Says Lawsuits Ain't The Answer

HellasVagabond · Jul 24, 2007, 04:41 AM

The Recording Industry Association after having generated a lot of negative PR with its latest lawsuit campaign against music piracy had the following to say in a recent interview with TG Daily through Jonathan Lamy their spokesman.

Quote:

Litigation tends to generate more heat, friction, and headlines. What is the most important anti-piracy strategy is aggressive licensing and offering great legal alternatives. That is what our member companies obviously do and our job is to complement that, which is the most important thing to do to win over fans.

According to RIAA provided statistics the number of households involved in illegal downloading of music this March were 7.8 million against 6.9 million in April 2003.

Source: TGDaily

a111087 · Jul 24, 2007, 04:43 AM

Fans of RIAA?

HellasVagabond · Jul 24, 2007, 04:44 AM

Perhaps RIAA is starting to understand that they can't mess with the people

russianboy · Jul 24, 2007, 04:47 AM

perhaps I'm still not persuaded to pay for music.

XooM · Jul 24, 2007, 05:14 AM

perhaps we can finally buy tracks online in a lossless format such as FLAC with no DRM or strings attached at a reasonable price.

Or we'll lower the bitrate, raise the price, and add more DRM. Yeah, that second one sounds better.

spectre440 · Jul 24, 2007, 10:48 AM

so why are they still suing the pants offa people?

Ben Clarke · Jul 24, 2007, 11:01 AM

Who knows? They're the damn government. THey do it cuz they can and no-one has the guts to stand up to them.

spectre440 · Jul 24, 2007, 11:05 AM

heh, just one of many many reasons i will never move to the states...

Beertintedgoggles · Jul 24, 2007, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Clarke

Who knows? They're the damn government. THey do it cuz they can and no-one has the guts to stand up to them.

Perhaps you're thinking of the FCC, because the RIAA (the Recording Industry Association of America) is just that, it's made up of the bastards in the recording industry and is not a part of the government.

GJSNeptune · Jul 24, 2007, 12:45 PM

The RIAA said ain't?

D-rock · Jul 24, 2007, 04:31 PM

How does the RIAA know how many households are pirating music? I'd like to see their method of finding that out. Just because a person is on Limewire or Kazaa doesnt mean they are pirates, there's lots of uncopyrighted material being shared on there too.

The RIAA needs to look at itself when they are complaining about poor record sales. The other day I heard the new Finger Eleven song on the radio. I liked it. So I went to Napster and listened to the rest of the album on there with their free previews. None of the other songs are as close to as good as the first song. Typical album these days. One, maybe two , good songs and 8-9 garbage filler songs and charge $20 for it. No wonder nobody buys that crap, I sure wouldnt. I bought the one good song for 99cents, to hell with the rest of the songs.

newconroer · Jul 24, 2007, 04:49 PM

Maybe the RIAA and record companies should stop signing and sourcing such awful bands who have no concept of 'music.' Then people might actually PAY for albums.

Steevo · Jul 24, 2007, 04:54 PM

^ Good post.

At least three good songs per album, and the rest decent. U2, Achtung Baby, 5 great songs, the rest good. I understand that some might not like all the songs, but there are at least a few that make the album worth buying.

GJSNeptune · Jul 24, 2007, 05:01 PM

Hear also:

Cold - Kill the Music Industry

Nemesis881 · Jul 24, 2007, 05:48 PM

Agrees with newconroer and D-rock.

Jonnycat · Jul 24, 2007, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spectre440

so why are they still suing the pants offa people?

The quote is phrased precisely to *seem* like it is saying what this topic is alluding to, but a careful reading of the exact syntax used tells a different story (ie, business as usual.)

WarEagleAU · Jul 25, 2007, 07:14 PM

Its about damn time they caught on. Did anyone ever pay them the enormous money they won in lawsuits?

a111087 · Jul 25, 2007, 07:43 PM

I've read somewhere that it was $700-1500 for 1 song and most of cases ended without going to court (just like in any other cases that aren't concerned with intellectual property)
and they sued not those who downloaded the most, but even the ones who downloaded a little, seems as if it is hard to catch people ...

GJSNeptune · Jul 25, 2007, 07:45 PM

And then they threw lawsuits at everyone hoping people would pay up without fighting it. Then some people started fighting back and the RIAA's been forced to pay their legal fees and such. Definitely chalk one up for the People.

a111087 · Jul 25, 2007, 07:54 PM

must have a good lawyer

GJSNeptune · Jul 25, 2007, 07:57 PM

All they have to say is the RIAA has no real proof, and the RIAA will back down because, well, they don't.

Dippyskoodlez · Jul 25, 2007, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellasVagabond

Perhaps RIAA is starting to understand that they can't mess with the people

LOL.

Thanks for the laugh.

I can see tomorrows headline already: RIAA SUES DEAD SQUIRREL FOR 10,000 STOLEN SONGS

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D-rock Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 49 (0.02/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	How does the RIAA know how many households are pirating music? I'd like to see their method of finding that out. Just because a person is on Limewire or Kazaa doesnt mean they are pirates, there's lots of uncopyrighted material being shared on there too. The RIAA needs to look at itself when they are complaining about poor record sales. The other day I heard the new Finger Eleven song on the radio. I liked it. So I went to Napster and listened to the rest of the album on there with their free previews. None of the other songs are as close to as good as the first song. Typical album these days. One, maybe two , good songs and 8-9 garbage filler songs and charge $20 for it. No wonder nobody buys that crap, I sure wouldnt. I bought the one good song for 99cents, to hell with the rest of the songs.

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Jul 25, 2007, 07:43 PM	#18
a111087 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Posts: 2,521 (1.12/day) Thanks: 240 Thanked 190 Times in 157 Posts System Specs	I've read somewhere that it was $700-1500 for 1 song and most of cases ended without going to court (just like in any other cases that aren't concerned with intellectual property) and they sued not those who downloaded the most, but even the ones who downloaded a little, seems as if it is hard to catch people ...

Jul 25, 2007, 07:45 PM	#19
GJSNeptune Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,743 (0.78/day) Thanks: 24 Thanked 112 Times in 103 Posts System Specs	And then they threw lawsuits at everyone hoping people would pay up without fighting it. Then some people started fighting back and the RIAA's been forced to pay their legal fees and such. Definitely chalk one up for the People.

Jul 25, 2007, 07:54 PM	#20
a111087 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Posts: 2,521 (1.12/day) Thanks: 240 Thanked 190 Times in 157 Posts System Specs	must have a good lawyer

Jul 25, 2007, 07:57 PM	#21
GJSNeptune Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,743 (0.78/day) Thanks: 24 Thanked 112 Times in 103 Posts System Specs	All they have to say is the RIAA has no real proof, and the RIAA will back down because, well, they don't.

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