No OC for me? *BSOD*

m3lisk · Jul 23, 2007, 02:35 PM

I overclock my CPU to 3.01 from 2.8, which isnt that big of a clock, but then I decided I wanted to get at least 10,000 in 3dMark06, so I restarted and OCed it to 3.2, but it said entering BIOS safe mode, decreasing FSB, and when it went to boot Windows and BSODed. I was like wtf, and restored it to 3.01 and it still BSODed. I had also increased my PCIe frequency to 110mhz from 100mhz. So now I dont think it will let me OC at all, WTF happened?

3991vhtes · Jul 23, 2007, 02:40 PM

well you OC'd and that can really screw up your computer. instead of OC'ing why not spend the xtra $$$ and get the faster CPU?

m3lisk · Jul 23, 2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 3991vhtes

well you OC'd and that can really screw up your computer. instead of OC'ing why not spend the xtra $$$ and get the faster CPU?

Because I wasn't going to spend another $50 to get 200mhz more, any mobo in the freaking world can do that.

PS- Thus forth, your opinion means nothing to me.

largon · Jul 23, 2007, 02:56 PM

Try resetting the BIOS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3991vhtes

well you OC'd and that can really screw up your computer. instead of OC'ing why not spend the xtra $$$ and get the faster CPU?

Some advice...

m3lisk · Jul 23, 2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 3991vhtes

yeah so, it's my opinion....i hate OCing and I hate OC'ers.

And I hate non-econimcal, non-logical people who refuse to accept the fact that paying $50 more for something that you could do in a few seconds, like raise your FSB to match those speeds and get the same performance with no or very little compentsation for longevety, is not freaking worth it.

DaMulta · Jul 23, 2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 3991vhtes

yeah so, it's my opinion....i hate OCing and I hate OC'ers.

Yet you post on Techpowerup which it's main thing is Overclocking.......

reset the bios/and try again

m3lisk · Jul 23, 2007, 03:07 PM

Alright, but why wont it let me raise my FSB over 215?

DaMulta · Jul 23, 2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m3lisk

Alright, but why wont it let me raise my FSB over 215?

Maybe your memory is holding you back. Lower your memory divider and try again.

also what is you hypertransport speed set at? You might need to lower it.

m3lisk · Jul 23, 2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaMulta

Maybe your memory is holding you back. Lower your memory divider and try again.

also what is you hypertransport speed set at? You might need to lower it.

Umm... I don't exactly know how, I've never OC'd past what raising my FSB... I feel like such a little n00b right now...

DaMulta · Jul 23, 2007, 03:28 PM

Can you post a screen shot of your CPU-z

m3lisk · Jul 23, 2007, 03:43 PM

Yeah, h/o. My fucking computer just BSODed when I was listening to music. Something about drivers...

newconroer · Jul 23, 2007, 03:43 PM

m3ilsk quote:
"PS- Thus forth, your opinion means nothing to me."
/end

LOL! People think I'm an ***hole because of my stark opinions, but at least I'd tell you WHY your opinion means nothing.

m3lisk quote:
"Umm... I don't exactly know how, I've never OC'd past what raising my FSB... I feel like such a little n00b right now..."
/end

Yep, and trying to talk like a pro....

If it's of any merit, increasing PCI E is not recommended at this time.

You mentioned your BSOD(or one of them) mentioned drivers. Was it the IQ(L)_ Driver Error. The error message was listed at the top of the screen? Usually this points to a conflict or corrupt set of drivers, but when you OC, this can happen frequentley. And, if you OC and it corrupt something, then this will continue to happen.

Why hasn't anyone pointed him in the direction of the OC guides? Noone even asked if he had read them yet.

Apparently he's not fully versed on what he is doing (hell I'm not even fully versed on what I'm doing, but my results are solid) and he's just simply run into a typical negative result of overclocking.

You need to check the guides for 'what if' scenarios and exhaust those options before you send us on an easter egg hunt.

1. Set everything back to stock.
2. Disable any thermal or clock cycle limiters. These are things that auto adjust how your CPU performs based on the tasks you are doing. I don't know what the names are on AMD boards... research.
3. You cannot just raise the FSB and hope all will be well. After a certain point voltage changes will come into play. If you set the FSB higher you may need to increase FSB voltage and possibly Vcore voltage, as it controls the system.

And do provide us any visual information you can.

m3lisk · Jul 23, 2007, 03:53 PM

Ok for now screw overclocking, my computer just shut off for no apparant reason. How do I fix?

3991vhtes · Jul 23, 2007, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m3lisk

How do I fix?

you could try reseting your bios.

m3lisk · Jul 23, 2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3991vhtes

you could try reseting your bios.

Already did, then 5min later it randomly shut off.

csallis · Jul 23, 2007, 04:02 PM

I would reset your bios, look to see if there is a bios update for your board, then try again, don't forget to lower your memory ratio and finally if its needed put the cpu voltage up a slight notch (only if its needed).

Check your temps first in the bios to make sure your CPU isn't getting to hot which could cause your system to shut down, I had that issue with my old Pentium D 820.

m3lisk · Jul 23, 2007, 04:05 PM

Thats what I thought maybe, but it was @ 36c when it shut down.

newconroer · Jul 23, 2007, 04:07 PM

Yes do as vhtes and csallis suggested, then run your system for a while doing different types of tasks. Note when (post, bios, boot, in windows, in game etc) the crash happens and write down any error messages.

csallis · Jul 23, 2007, 04:07 PM

Have you set everything back to default values in the bios? does the shut down still occur?

Fox34 · Jul 23, 2007, 04:11 PM

What have you changed in your BIOS? Overclocking is a lot more than just raising your FSB

m3lisk · Jul 23, 2007, 04:11 PM

I went back to all defaults, and no problems thus far.

Fox34 · Jul 23, 2007, 04:12 PM

AS I asked, what had you changed when you OC'ed

csallis · Jul 23, 2007, 04:17 PM

Yeah try and walk us through exactly what you changed and will try and help.

m3lisk · Jul 23, 2007, 04:28 PM

Heck, all I did was increase the FSB from 200 to 225, and my PCIe from 100 to 110. I went to boot, it said BIOS entering safe mode, press F1 to continue, so I did, and when I checked out my System from control panel it said 2.8, not the 3,15 it should have. So I restarted, lowered my FSB to 215, PCIe to 100, and booted. Just as it finished loading windows, it BSODed saying something about drivers, and I shut down, reset my BIOS, and then booted up. I was going through CPU-z when it randomly shut down. I turned it back on and here I am.

Fox34 · Jul 23, 2007, 04:30 PM

Thats all you had to say was all you increased was the FSB. You have to learn to OC correctly first. Reset your CMOS and I'll walk your through it.

Jul 23, 2007, 02:35 PM	#1
m3lisk Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 496 (0.20/day) Thanks: 27 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	No OC for me? BSOD I overclock my CPU to 3.01 from 2.8, which isnt that big of a clock, but then I decided I wanted to get at least 10,000 in 3dMark06, so I restarted and OCed it to 3.2, but it said entering BIOS safe mode, decreasing FSB, and when it went to boot Windows and BSODed. I was like wtf, and restored it to 3.01 and it still BSODed. I had also increased my PCIe frequency to 110mhz from 100mhz. So now I dont think it will let me OC at all, WTF happened?

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Jul 23, 2007, 02:40 PM	#2
3991vhtes Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My house. Posts: 1,584 (0.70/day) Thanks: 426 Thanked 126 Times in 116 Posts System Specs	well you OC'd and that can really screw up your computer. instead of OC'ing why not spend the xtra $$$ and get the faster CPU?

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m3lisk Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 496 (0.20/day) Thanks: 27 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Alright, but why wont it let me raise my FSB over 215?

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Jul 23, 2007, 03:43 PM	#11
m3lisk Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 496 (0.20/day) Thanks: 27 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Yeah, h/o. My fucking computer just BSODed when I was listening to music. Something about drivers...

Jul 23, 2007, 03:43 PM	#12
newconroer Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,271 (1.04/day) Thanks: 101 Thanked 232 Times in 195 Posts System Specs	m3ilsk quote: "PS- Thus forth, your opinion means nothing to me." /end LOL! People think I'm an **hole because of my stark opinions, but at least I'd tell you WHY your opinion means nothing. m3lisk quote: "Umm... I don't exactly know how, I've never OC'd past what raising my FSB... I feel like such a little n00b right now..." /end Yep, and trying to talk like a pro.... If it's of any merit, increasing PCI E is not recommended at this time. You mentioned your BSOD(or one of them) mentioned drivers. Was it the IQ(L)_ Driver Error. The error message was listed at the top of the screen? Usually this points to a conflict or corrupt set of drivers, but when you OC, this can happen frequentley. And, if you OC and it corrupt something, then this will continue to happen. Why hasn't anyone pointed him in the direction of the OC guides? Noone even asked if he had read them yet. Apparently he's not fully versed on what he is doing (hell I'm not even fully versed on what I'm doing, but my results are solid) and he's just simply run into a typical negative result of overclocking. You need to check the guides for 'what if' scenarios and exhaust those options before you send us on an easter egg hunt. 1. Set everything back to stock. 2. Disable any thermal or clock cycle limiters. These are things that auto adjust how your CPU performs based on the tasks you are doing. I don't know what the names are on AMD boards... research. 3. You cannot just raise the FSB and hope all will be well. After a certain point voltage changes will come into play. If you set the FSB higher you may need to increase FSB voltage and possibly Vcore voltage, as it controls the system. And do provide us any visual information you can. Last edited by newconroer; Jul 23, 2007 at 04:05 PM.*

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Jul 23, 2007, 03:53 PM	#13
m3lisk Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 496 (0.20/day) Thanks: 27 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Ok for now screw overclocking, my computer just shut off for no apparant reason. How do I fix?

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csallis Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 90 (0.04/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	I would reset your bios, look to see if there is a bios update for your board, then try again, don't forget to lower your memory ratio and finally if its needed put the cpu voltage up a slight notch (only if its needed). Check your temps first in the bios to make sure your CPU isn't getting to hot which could cause your system to shut down, I had that issue with my old Pentium D 820. __________________ 3dmark05 score 13246

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m3lisk Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 496 (0.20/day) Thanks: 27 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Thats what I thought maybe, but it was @ 36c when it shut down.

Jul 23, 2007, 04:07 PM	#18
newconroer Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,271 (1.04/day) Thanks: 101 Thanked 232 Times in 195 Posts System Specs	Yes do as vhtes and csallis suggested, then run your system for a while doing different types of tasks. Note when (post, bios, boot, in windows, in game etc) the crash happens and write down any error messages.

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Fox34 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Venice Posts: 1,445 (0.56/day) Thanks: 72 Thanked 101 Times in 55 Posts System Specs	AS I asked, what had you changed when you OC'ed __________________ Coffee on the Foot! 3DMark05: 13323 \| 3DMark06: 8889\| Super PI [1M]: 30s \| AquaMark3: 110201 \| CPU-Z New to case modding? Check out my guide! How to enable SLI/Configure graphics on Linux: My Guide

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Jul 23, 2007, 04:28 PM	#24
m3lisk Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 496 (0.20/day) Thanks: 27 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Heck, all I did was increase the FSB from 200 to 225, and my PCIe from 100 to 110. I went to boot, it said BIOS entering safe mode, press F1 to continue, so I did, and when I checked out my System from control panel it said 2.8, not the 3,15 it should have. So I restarted, lowered my FSB to 215, PCIe to 100, and booted. Just as it finished loading windows, it BSODed saying something about drivers, and I shut down, reset my BIOS, and then booted up. I was going through CPU-z when it randomly shut down. I turned it back on and here I am.

Jul 23, 2007, 04:30 PM	#25
Fox34 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Venice Posts: 1,445 (0.56/day) Thanks: 72 Thanked 101 Times in 55 Posts System Specs	Thats all you had to say was all you increased was the FSB. You have to learn to OC correctly first. Reset your CMOS and I'll walk your through it. __________________ Coffee on the Foot! 3DMark05: 13323 \| 3DMark06: 8889\| Super PI [1M]: 30s \| AquaMark3: 110201 \| CPU-Z New to case modding? Check out my guide! How to enable SLI/Configure graphics on Linux: My Guide

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