AMD Claims Memory Controller Breakthrough

[HellasVagabond]

AMD claims to have created a new memory controller which will double the memory capacity on its high-end server and workstation systems. AMD says that the G3MX technology will become available in 2009 and will target memory intensive systems such as virtualisation servers and large databases. When it comes to conventional systems, Ram modules connect directly to a memory controller on the motherboard or are built into the CPU. Nathan Brookwood principal analyst at Insight64 had the following to say about AMD's newest achievement.

In larger systems requiring more memory, a buffer must be used between the memory module and the controller to avoid a decrease in performance. The current choice for this is fully-buffered Ram modules which contain a built-in buffer. But the problem with fully buffered Ram is that it is expensive and power-hungry, and hampers performance. Fully buffered Dims were thought to be a big thing, and they turned out not to be. Every memory chip paid a price in terms of latency.

Source: Vnunet

[hat]

I've never seen a place that used AMD computers, only Intel.

[erocker]

I am currently surrounded by Opteron servers. I think there's a 8086 in the inventory machine.

[GJSNeptune]

Damnet. I hate "breakthrough" articles.

They ought to be more like...

AMD to come out with revolultionary memory controller technology this month after having the breakthrough two years ago.

[HellasVagabond]

Thats what they said, thats what i report

[FreedomEclipse]

AMD to come out with revolultionary memory controller technology this month after having the breakthrough two years ago. when a young I.T Apprentice Accidently Spilt hot coffee on to a system he was working on & found a new & quick way to fry bacon....

that sounds a lot more plausible i think....

[WarEagleAU]

Damn..good news for servers...I was hoping this was gonna bre in their phenom chips

[HaZe303]

Originally Posted by HellasVagabond

...the G3MX technology will become available in 2009...

Question is, will AMD be still around in 2009??? Me thinks not, if they keep up this constant delaying, this minimal exposure, and last but not least, these awful sale´s numbers.... They need something now, not 2 years from now. This is AMD´s biggest problem atm, they are always behind Intel in everything. Die shrinks, prices, performance, etc,etc....

[kwchang007]

Originally Posted by HaZe303

Question is, will AMD be still around in 2009??? Me thinks not, if they keep up this constant delaying, this minimal exposure, and last but not least, these awful sale´s numbers.... They need something now, not 2 years from now. This is AMD´s biggest problem atm, they are always behind Intel in everything. Die shrinks, prices, performance, etc,etc....

Let's hope so. Competition benefits the consumer. Also, 2 years....I don't think AMD will go under, and Phenom is supposed to be at least if not better than Core 2. The thing with AMD is they just don't have the resources as Intel, however I don't think in 2 years they're going to fall...

[mandelore]

Originally Posted by HaZe303

Question is, will AMD be still around in 2009??? Me thinks not, if they keep up this constant delaying, this minimal exposure, and last but not least, these awful sale´s numbers.... They need something now, not 2 years from now. This is AMD´s biggest problem atm, they are always behind Intel in everything. Die shrinks, prices, performance, etc,etc....

Well, Intel is HUGE compared to AMD, and AMDs stock chip v stock chip pwn most intels, so they are doin ok considering intels vast wealth.

and dont be silly, ofcourse AMD will be around then

[DanTheBanjoman]

Originally Posted by mandelore

Well, Intel is HUGE compared to AMD, and AMDs stock chip v stock chip pwn most intels, so they are doin ok considering intels vast wealth.

and dont be silly, ofcourse AMD will be around then

A company doing well means they make a lot of cash, since that's the whole point of a company. Making good products is completely irrelevant, it is just a means to do well.

Also, AMD chips don't "pwn" Intel chips, check benchmarks mate.



As for AMD being around, sure. Will they be the same company? Who knows, perhaps they will be bought by another company, think Samsung or IBM. Many things could happen, we shall see what happens in the future.

[Grings]

Well the latest rumour (though its from the inquirer, so i dont believe it myself, at least yet) is that samsung are looking at buying/investing in amd, an interesting proposition certainly


edit: meh@dan

[DanTheBanjoman]

Originally Posted by Grings

Well the latest rumour (though its from the inquirer, so i dont believe it myself, at least yet) is that samsung are looking at buying/investing in amd, an interesting proposition certainly

Haven't read that, however it makes perfect sense, Samsung is the second biggest company in semiconductor land, only Intel surpasses them. They have the resources to turn AMD into something big and with AMD they could get a nice foothold in several markets including the desktop processor market.

[Grings]

or, as you mentioned ibm, who are no strangers to processor production, and combined with amd could become a real problem for intel

[DanTheBanjoman]

Originally Posted by Grings

or, as you mentioned ibm, who are no strangers to processor production, and combined with amd could become a real problem for intel

IBM and AMD already work together as well, so they're no strangers to eachother either. Being bought by some giant would be good for AMD

[Atech]

Originally Posted by Grings

or, as you mentioned ibm, who are no strangers to processor production, and combined with amd could become a real problem for intel

I should think a situation in which x86 stagnates (yes, crap can increase in crapness) would be great for IBMs processor business (i.e. PPC), although I suppose they might miss the current minuscule R&D funding from AMD.

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

As for AMD being around, sure. Will they be the same company? Who knows, perhaps they will be bought by another company, think Samsung or IBM. Many things could happen, we shall see what happens in the future.

I second that, but Im leaning towards Samsung getting AMD more the IBM. as my dad keeps telling me IBM is a dying breed (my dads a bit of a stocks & shares buff so he knows his stuff also as hes worked in data centers in loads of banks since before i was born around 1985ish)

If Samsung aquired AMD that would be a little heartbreaking i suppose. if ATi were to go with them if they havent been sold already....

But Samsung is pretty well established so AMD & ATi should fit in just fine i suppose

[HaZe303]

Dont get me wrong, I do really hope AMD will be around for a long time. But im afraid they wont. And even if samsung would acquire them, I bet it wouldnt be the same company as today. But hey, maybe thats a good thing? AMD hasnt been very succesful these two years, so they must be doing something wrong... Even if they dont have the same recourses as Intel, these delays put of many people. People want their products easy, accesible, and cheap. Amd can only provide with the last option.

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by HaZe303

Dont get me wrong, I do really hope AMD will be around for a long time. But im afraid they wont. And even if samsung would acquire them, I bet it wouldnt be the same company as today. But hey, maybe thats a good thing? AMD hasnt been very succesful these two years, so they must be doing something wrong... Even if they dont have the same recourses as Intel, these delays put of many people. People want their products easy, accesible, and cheap. Amd can only provide with the last option.

Well as we can all see, between Intel & AMD theres been a roll reversal. Intel is now top dog after giving away the market to AMD by sticking with their net burst architecture for a long time...now when Intel released the Core 2 Duo's. AMD knew intel were going to release it & didnt hold back the release of the X2 CPU line. they didnt want to delay the X2's release just so they could tweak it a little more. so they sent it out on a limb & against Intels Core 2's. & this is whats happend, even with the AM2's AMD couldnt claw back its share of the market. & Now their looking for external funding etc & all the news about how their losing money n stuff. IMO AMD are going to have to either do a last ditch move, move all their remaining resources on & make a CPU hopefully better then Core 2 & shed a few people here & there, then wait for the result, if it goes bad then bye bye AMD. then will they put themselves up for sale on the market when there are no more cards to play.

Hopefully they wont have to resort to being bought out or selling ATi - One of their Prized divisions. Intel really tore AMD a new one with the Core 2's no doubt about it

[kwchang007]

Ok.....let's get the facts straight, AMD isn't in a dire going to die, ZOMG it needs to make a last ditch effort, WTH is going on it's horrible state. It's part of competition. All this talk about AMD going down in two years..... Honestly, it's not a small company anymore, it is mid to large cap. I think it did 1 billion dollars in sales in the first quarter....but yes they lost money. It's not going to end AMD. They're not under huge debt problems etc etc.

As I said before, it's part of competition. AMD gave Intel a huge hit with the A64 compared to netburst. No one was crying that Intel was going to die, yes they had money etc etc... I strongly believe that if AMD returns to the underdog spot they'll find something where they excel against Intel. That might be value, however with the recent C2D pricecuts....not so, but later on. Also remember that Intel is introducing their own memory controller with Nehlem and that's something new to Intel. Perhaps they'll mess up and AMD will take advantage.

Don't get me wrong, AMD is in a bad spot, but it's not so bad they're going to fall. Phenom is supposed to be the same or better performance as Conroe. Also, AMD has always excelled at floating point, something the core 2 does well, but not as good as AMD's chips. Floating point is huge in servers, sooo AMD still has servers to fall back on, and while their Opteron chips may not be as prominent as Xeons, I still think they have good chips for server based systems compared to Intel's offerings. Anyways, sorry for the long post, but hope you all get the idea.