why do video cards cost more than the whole computer?

[keakar]

Originally Posted by keakar

anyone who really feels that intel will lose money if they dont charge us $700 for a video card should just go ahead and mail them a check so they don't go out of buisness lol.

[QUOTE=Mussels;434693]since when do intel make $700 video cards?
Since you started this thread, it'd be nice if you at least knew what you were talking about.
QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Mussels

In aussie prices
My video card: 8800GTX - $750
my CPU $375 (Q6600)
Keyboard $115 (Saitek Eclipse II)
Mouse $95 (MX518/Logitech G5 - have both)
Mouse pad $39 (Func archetype)
LCD monitor $425

hmmmmm now your saying they dont have $700 video cards????????????

do you just make stuff up in an effort to try and make a point?



EDIT: since when does intel make $700 video cards? they dont, they make the chips that make that video card. so just for you mussels i will repost it below so it wont specifically say Intel sells them.

[keakar]

If there is anyone out there who really feels that those companies will lose money if they don't charge us $700 for a video card then they should just go ahead and mail them a check so they don't go out of buisness lol.

[DR.Death]

there sli but a single card dose not cost more then the computer is a big chunk but not all of it

Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz 8MB Retail Box (3year) $ 333.00 Motherboard : Asus P5N-E SLI S775 650i C2D DDRII GBLan 6-ch Audio (3year)$155.50
Memory Corsair XMS2 Dominator 2GB (2X1GB) PC6400 DDR2-800MHz (Lifetime)$ 228.88
Hard Disk (1st) :2 Western Digital SATA2 250GB 8MB Cache 7200RPM WD2500JS (3year) $ 76.88
Hard Disk (2nd) :2 Western Digital SATA2 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM WD5000KS (3year) $ 127.00
Video Card :2 XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra Extreme 768MB GDDR3 PCIe DVI (lifetime) $ 867.88
Sound Card :Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music Retail (1year) $ 101.88

CDRW :2 Pioneer DVR-212 18x +/- Dual Layer SATA DVD Burner Black (1year) $ 40.50

Case :Lian-Li PC-61 Black Anodized Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Case $ 145.88
Power Supply :BFG 650W Power Supply ATX 12V 2.0 EPS12V SLI Ready (lifetime) $ 135.00

Total Price : $ 3324.66

[keakar]

Originally Posted by DR.Death

there sli but a single card dose not cost more then the computer is a big chunk but not all of it

Video Card :2 XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra Extreme 768MB GDDR3 PCIe DVI (lifetime) $ 867.88

while your cards were only $400 there are over a dozen high end cards that sell over $700 and this is what we have been talking about.

early on i agreed that the video card was actually more like 20% of the cost of the computer itself, not the entire system as a whole.

since that time we have been debating how we can help lower the prices on these cards if we use our buying power to avoid overpaying and only get them during sales or with rebates. i believe this will help control the out of control price increases we are seeing. if you raised prices and customers still kept on buying them, would you ever stop raising prices?

some people feel they are cheap even at the high prices they are charging while i believe that those high end cards are at least double the price they should cost us to buy them.

EDIT: here is an example of the high end video cards we are talking about: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...8&N=2010380048

[DR.Death]

400 no they are 867.88 each

[keakar]

Originally Posted by DR.Death

400 no they are 867.88 each

oh ok, you actually meant to say the non sli cards not "a single card"

since all high end cards and just about any new card made today is sli ready and we are not talking about the older cards with prices that are somewhat reasonable.

[DR.Death]

no its in sli but it just did not add them 2ogether

[DR.Death]

R

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz 8MB Retail Box (3year) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz 8MB Retail Box (3year)
$333.00

Asus P5N-E SLI S775 650i C2D DDRII GBLan 6-ch Audio (3year) Asus P5N-E SLI S775 650i C2D DDRII GBLan 6-ch Audio (3year)
$155.50

Corsair XMS2 Dominator 2GB (2X1GB) PC6400 DDR2-800MHz (Lifetime) Corsair XMS2 Dominator 2GB (2X1GB) PC6400 DDR2-800MHz (Lifetime)
$228.88

2 Western Digital SATA2 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM WD5000KS (3year) Western Digital SATA2 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM WD5000KS (3year)
$254.00

2 Pioneer DVR-212 18x +/- Dual Layer SATA DVD Burner Black (1year) Pioneer DVR-212 18x +/- Dual Layer SATA DVD Burner Black (1year)
$81.00

BFG 650W Power Supply ATX 12V 2.0 EPS12V SLI Ready (lifetime) BFG 650W Power Supply ATX 12V 2.0 EPS12V SLI Ready (lifetime)
$135.00

2 Western Digital SATA2 250GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM WD2500KS (3year) Western Digital SATA2 250GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM WD2500KS (3year)
$151.00

2 XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra Extreme 768MB GDDR3 PCIe DVI (lifetime) XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra Extreme 768MB GDDR3 PCIe DVI (lifetime)
$1,735.76

Auzentech X-plosion 7.1 DTS Auzentech X-plosion 7.1 DTS
$146.00
Sub-Total: $3,220.14

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by DR.DEATH

BFG 650W Power Supply ATX 12V 2.0 EPS12V SLI Ready (lifetime) BFG 650W Power Supply ATX 12V 2.0 EPS12V SLI Ready (lifetime)
$135.00

2 XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra Extreme 768MB GDDR3 PCIe DVI (lifetime) XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra Extreme 768MB GDDR3 PCIe DVI (lifetime)
$1,735.76

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz 8MB Retail Box (3year) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz 8MB Retail Box (3year)
$333.00

these are kinda not going to work together try mybe 700-800watts if you plan to oc at all

not to mention you cannot run 8800s on sli 8x which is what happens to be what you get with 650i SLi

[keakar]

Originally Posted by cdawall

these are kinda not going to work together try mybe 700-800watts if you plan to oc at all

not to mention you cannot run 8800s on sli 8x which is what happens to be what you get with 650i SLi

not sure if he is for real anyway, nothing he "says" he has is listed in his specs

[DR.Death]

no
i am just building them i wish i had the money to build that ...lol

[Grings]

Originally Posted by cdawall

these are kinda not going to work together try mybe 700-800watts if you plan to oc at all

not to mention you cannot run 8800s on sli 8x which is what happens to be what you get with 650i SLi

yes you can, because ive done it...

and so have vrzone

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

overclocking medium range parts is the way to go ..

[yogurt_21]

lol comparing the highest gpu's on midrange cpu's, why yes then sure a the vga cost seems high. but if you check the highend cpus/mobos/psus/ optical drives/ monitors/ cases/cooling/ sound cards/etc

then you gpu's fit right in and infact end up quite a bit cheaper than the most expensive monitors.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143085
highest priced/fastest performing card on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115026
highest priced/fastest performing cpu on newegg.


hmmm a trend perhaps? the cpu cost dwarfs the gpu, granted with sli the gpu wins but only by a small percentage.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703007
psu and yes you could go for multiple of these as well if you wanted to

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131074
mobo okay so the heart of the machine is cheap but hey that's the market.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822111151
hard drives and yes imagine a raid array of these. still think the gpu's are the most expensive?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145171
mem 2 sets of these are pretty pricy.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136124
you could go with 5 of these were you inclined to create a blu-ray burning tower.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836116142
speakers

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826159703
headphones (click and see 1$ savings lol)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119127
case and for those with supercooling you might need 2 of these, one for rig, one for cooling.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999087
3 of these, one for cpu, one for each gpu in sli.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824002131
last and certainly not least, the monitors yes 2 of them.

highend hardware is expensive!!!!!!!

don't go looking at one expensive componet and compare it to other midrange or economy class components, because yes even the motherboard at 300$ is more expensive than a whole computer. (olpc project anyone?) vga's aren't anywhere near the most expensive piece of hardware, I didn't even touch on the server class/professional stuff. this is merely a glimpse of how expensive a truly highend rig can get.

more than any of us here can afford? probbaly but there are millionaries out there who also buy computers, and like their cars they like them fast, expensive, and rare.

do some research before posting such a useless and baseless opinion which really shows you know nothing of actually expensive hardware. (which is fine) but being so, don't make claims of things you know nothing of.

[cdawall]

see yogurt built a machine with equal parts and what do you kow they are well equal priced

@grings

ehh thought you could only run 8X good find

[driver66]

Originally Posted by keakar

i noticed he said the highest price gpu was the $939 one yet if you look at neweggs list he is picking one near the bottom of the high end high priced cards.

have a look for yourself: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...8&N=2010380048


this is the fastest performing highest price card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133189


oooops did i just show the best GPU is almost twice the price of the best CPU???????????

Lmao best gpu for what?? That is for a workstation / Movie studio

[kwchang007]

Originally Posted by keakar

i noticed he said the highest price gpu was the $939 one yet if you look at neweggs list he is picking one near the bottom of the high end high priced cards.

have a look for yourself: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...8&N=2010380048


this is the fastest performing highest price card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133189


oooops did i just show the best GPU is almost twice the price of the best CPU???????????

Man that's a quadro. For systems you don't game on using 2 cpus and a server mobo plus fb-dimms.

Something like this ($500 mobo )

And two of these (whoa 2x $800....1600 on dual cpus right there).

Four of these ($308 x4...$1232 on memory)

So that's already more than that graphics card by alot. Then throw in some SAS 15000 rpm drives with a raid card, a sata raid card etc etc.

[driver66]

Most newwegg reviews are very suspect lol

[keakar]

i am totally amazed by all the examples given to justify this price and that price percentage wise.

the prices on everything is too high and getting more out of control every day because as it has been proven here by your comments that the more you pay for it the happier you are to do so and even help make excuses why they should be that high. (manufacturers love you)

if GPUs went up to $5,000 tomorrow many here would swear they are still not overpriced because they also raised prices on everything else so by compare they are still priced right.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by keakar

i noticed he said the highest price gpu was the $939 one yet if you look at neweggs list he is picking one near the bottom of the high end high priced cards.

have a look for yourself: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...8&N=2010380048


this is the fastest performing highest price card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133189


oooops did i just show the best GPU is almost twice the price of the best CPU?

and what a coincidence that if you look at the prices nothing cost as much as the GPU by itself

your kidding right thats a 7900GTX made to run WS crap

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by keaker

GPU Quadro FX5500
PixelPipelines 12
Memory
Memory Size 1GB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR2

other than that still looks very 7900GTX like to me

[keakar]

ok, lets return to the topic we were on:


DO YOU THINK YOUR VIDEO CARD IS WORTH WHAT YOU PAID FOR IT
OR DO YOU THINK IT SHOULD COST LESS MONEY TO BUY IT?

[driver66]

Originally Posted by keakar

ok, how about this:


DO YOU THINK YOUR VIDEO CARD IS WORTH WHAT YOU PAID FOR IT
OR DO YOU THINK IT SHOULD COST LESS MONEY TO BUY IT?

I feel compared to whats on the market ,,,,,I got my moneys worth

[hat]

I feel this is priced right
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150244
this isnt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150234

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by hat

I feel this is priced right
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150244
this isnt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150234

$590 really isnt that bad for a 8800ultra