Classic Socket 478 Thread Question: PIV 2.4 or Celeron 2.8?

mdm-adph · Sep 5, 2007, 06:22 PM

Hey, everybody -- I'm in a situation where I want to upgrade my laptop. I have an old Dell Inspiron 1100, with the unique presence of an upgradeable socket 478 socket with 400MHz FSB inside...

It's got a Celeron 2.0GHz chip in there now, and I'm looking to upgrade! My question is...

What makes more sense? Get a new Celeron 2.8GHz chip like this one for about $35, or try and get a true Pentium IV at around 2.6GHz for about $80 (which seems to be what they're going for)?

In your expert opinion, which one will be better bang for my buck?

[I.R.A]_FBi · Sep 5, 2007, 06:24 PM

check what ur board supports first
may not uspport 533 fsb or 800

newtekie1 · Sep 5, 2007, 06:56 PM

I'd probably just go with the 2.8GHz Celeron, I can't imagine you doing that much on the laptop that would give you that noticeable of a difference by going with the P4.

AthlonX2 · Sep 5, 2007, 07:20 PM

make sure you get a mobile chip..unless you want a heating pad

newtekie1 · Sep 5, 2007, 07:32 PM

Indeed, the 2.8GHz desktop 478 Celeron puts out about twice as much heat as the 2GHz Mobile version already in your laptop. Unfortunately the Mobile 478 Celerons only went up to 2.5GHz.

mdm-adph · Sep 5, 2007, 08:30 PM

Thanks, everybody! In response:

1) It'd be a 400MHz fsb, unfortunately, just to make sure.

2) Oh, i know, but who doesn't want the fastest you can get!

3 & 4) I am a bit worried about that, but wouldn't the PIV's have speed-stepping? That would keep it cool most of the time (or is that dependent on other factors? OS, MB, etc.)

PowerLeap.com offers up to a 2.8GHz PIV for my laptop -- surely they wouldn't recommend something that would burn it up unless they wanted to hear from too many peoples' lawyers, right? :P

hat · Sep 5, 2007, 11:04 PM

I definately reccomend the Celeron. Since it's a laptop the celeron would be better off because the disabled L2 means less power consumption AND less heat output. Hell my uncle was fixing an old HP today with 256MB SDRAM and a 1.2GHz celeron and after he got done cleaning the viruses the system was actually pretty quick.

cdawall · Sep 5, 2007, 11:08 PM

i recommend that you go for a P4 the 128k cache on the celly isnt worth a damn

hat · Sep 5, 2007, 11:10 PM

It's a laptop it's not like he is gaming. My 2GHz celeron did unreal tournament, quake 3, Battlefield 1942 fine. The celeron is really better for the laptop.

cdawall · Sep 5, 2007, 11:12 PM

i still dont recommend the low cache size on the celly the p4 would be a better chip and a 2.5ghz p4 would out do a 2.8ghz celly

how bout this?

yeah i kno what i just said and yes this is a celly

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116035

mdm-adph · Sep 6, 2007, 01:37 PM

I've love to have this laptop as a mobile encoding/ripping/compiling unit, so as much speed as possible would be great (at a reasonable price).

I'm wondering, though, about what some people said about "mobile" Celerons -- what denotes them as mobile? Every one I've seen for sale has just been a regular "Celeron" with nothing to denote the presence of a mobile status.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Sep 6, 2007, 02:10 PM

celeron m has a lower heat dissipation and power consumption

Sep 5, 2007, 06:22 PM	#1
mdm-adph Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Your house. Posts: 2,426 (1.07/day) Thanks: 401 Thanked 344 Times in 247 Posts System Specs	Classic Socket 478 Thread Question: PIV 2.4 or Celeron 2.8? Hey, everybody -- I'm in a situation where I want to upgrade my laptop. I have an old Dell Inspiron 1100, with the unique presence of an upgradeable socket 478 socket with 400MHz FSB inside... It's got a Celeron 2.0GHz chip in there now, and I'm looking to upgrade! My question is... What makes more sense? Get a new Celeron 2.8GHz chip like this one for about $35, or try and get a true Pentium IV at around 2.6GHz for about $80 (which seems to be what they're going for)? In your expert opinion, which one will be better bang for my buck?

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Sep 5, 2007, 07:20 PM	#4
AthlonX2 Better Than You Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo,Ohio Posts: 5,450 (2.22/day) Thanks: 730 Thanked 1,572 Times in 994 Posts System Specs	make sure you get a mobile chip..unless you want a heating pad

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newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 17,904 (6.47/day) Thanks: 785 Thanked 5,185 Times in 3,754 Posts System Specs	Indeed, the 2.8GHz desktop 478 Celeron puts out about twice as much heat as the 2GHz Mobile version already in your laptop. Unfortunately the Mobile 478 Celerons only went up to 2.5GHz. __________________ Rig1: System Specs. Rig2: A8-5600K@4.4GHz / AsRock FM2A75 Pro4 / 8GB Corsair DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 / HD7560D / Samsung DVD-Burner / 1.5TB WD Green + 3x3TB WD RED in RAID5 Rig3: Athlon X2 4200+ / M4A79 Deluxe / 4GB G.Skill Pi DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 / GT430 / Sony DVD-Burner / 500GB WD Rig4: Phenom II x6 1605T @ 3.6GHz / Asus M5A99X Evo / 8GB PNY DDR3-1600 9-9-9 / GTX470 & GTX470 / Samsung DVD-Burner / 1.5TB Seagate

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mdm-adph Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Your house. Posts: 2,426 (1.07/day) Thanks: 401 Thanked 344 Times in 247 Posts System Specs	Thanks, everybody! In response: 1) It'd be a 400MHz fsb, unfortunately, just to make sure. 2) Oh, i know, but who doesn't want the fastest you can get! 3 & 4) I am a bit worried about that, but wouldn't the PIV's have speed-stepping? That would keep it cool most of the time (or is that dependent on other factors? OS, MB, etc.) PowerLeap.com offers up to a 2.8GHz PIV for my laptop -- surely they wouldn't recommend something that would burn it up unless they wanted to hear from too many peoples' lawyers, right? :P

Sep 5, 2007, 11:04 PM	#7
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Sep 5, 2007, 11:10 PM	#9
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,247 (5.10/day) Thanks: 2,056 Thanked 2,045 Times in 1,555 Posts System Specs	It's a laptop it's not like he is gaming. My 2GHz celeron did unreal tournament, quake 3, Battlefield 1942 fine. The celeron is really better for the laptop. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Sep 5, 2007, 11:12 PM	#10
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,182 (6.41/day) Thanks: 460 Thanked 2,810 Times in 2,256 Posts System Specs	i still dont recommend the low cache size on the celly the p4 would be a better chip and a 2.5ghz p4 would out do a 2.8ghz celly how bout this? yeah i kno what i just said and yes this is a celly http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116035 __________________

Sep 6, 2007, 01:37 PM	#11
mdm-adph Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Your house. Posts: 2,426 (1.07/day) Thanks: 401 Thanked 344 Times in 247 Posts System Specs	I've love to have this laptop as a mobile encoding/ripping/compiling unit, so as much speed as possible would be great (at a reasonable price). I'm wondering, though, about what some people said about "mobile" Celerons -- what denotes them as mobile? Every one I've seen for sale has just been a regular "Celeron" with nothing to denote the presence of a mobile status.

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