AMD Releases AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition

Polaris573 · Sep 26, 2007, 02:56 AM

Advanced Micro Devices has announced its new central processing unit (CPU) that is officially aimed at enthusiasts and gamers who dare to overclock and tweak their systems. The new processor from the Black Edition lineup comes with unlocked multiplier, which allows to easily set it working at higher clock-speed, getting additional performance virtually for free.

The AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor 5000+ Black Edition is an affordably-priced, dual-core processor targeted to the consumer channel, boasting a customizable clock multiplier for tunable performance, enabling mainstream end-users to reap the benefits of setting their own speed limits, a statement by the world’s largest maker of x86 central processing units maker reads.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition microprocessor works at 2.60GHz, features dual-channel DDR2 memory controller, 1MB of level-two cache (512KB per core) and is compatible with socket AM2 mainboards featuring 1000MHz HyperTransport bus. The chip has 65W thermal design power and is made using 65nm process technology.

The customizable clock multiplier and auto-adjustable memory frequency of the new chip enables amateurs and value-conscious enthusiasts to maximize the performance of their desktop computers without substantial hassles. Typically enthusiasts have to increase base HyperTransport bus speed from default 200MHz, which eventually causes not only CPU clock-speed boost, but also alters HT bus and memory frequency, meaning that other components apart from the microprocessor also should be able to handle increased speeds. Previously customizable clock multiplier were only available on high-end AMD Athlon 64 FX processors that could retail for as much as $1000 per chip.

Given that not all enthusiasts may want to invest additional money into high-end mainboard, memory modules and spend additional time ensuring that all components work well enough, AMD’s Black Edition processors Athlon 64 X2 6400+ and 5000+ do seem to be appealing solutions for overclocking. Since nowadays computer enthusiasts and gamers tend to acquire CPUs from Intel Corp., AMD crucially needs to attract attention of those groups with attractive options.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition processors will only be available in channel market. The chips will come as processor-in-box (PIB) package, but without cooling systems. The Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition microprocessors cost $136 in 1000-unit quantities, up slightly from $125, the cost of typical model 5000+.

Source: X-bit Labs

Corrosion · Sep 26, 2007, 02:58 AM

Im guessing this is gonna be a good chip, 65nm also its hopefully and probebly gonna oc high as hell! if this bad boy works good ill get this instead of a core 2 duo

ktr · Sep 26, 2007, 03:07 AM

Not bad at all, its pretty much an FX60 with a 65nm...

ChaoticBlankness · Sep 26, 2007, 03:30 AM

Cheap, fast, unlocked, and a low power 65nm design refresh.. it's like my dual core K8 dreams are coming true.

erocker · Sep 26, 2007, 03:32 AM

While this is a very cool chip, why does AMD even bother advertising a last-gen chip? All chips should be unlockable anyway, more control for the user.
I wish I went from s754 to AM2 instead of s939. I want the new stuff!!!!

pbmaster · Sep 26, 2007, 03:46 AM

I wanted me a Phenom!!!

erocker · Sep 26, 2007, 04:10 AM

Me too pb.

I'm itching to buy a new system... The wait is driving me to constantly push my Opteron further. It can't take much more. I'll probablly go and blow some cash on a new water cooling setup.

I mean

FatForester · Sep 26, 2007, 04:26 AM

Pretty cool, but considering the amount of hype they gave it, I say WEAK!!! Yea, this is intriguing but it's based on old tech. All it really does is show how desperate AMD is. Poor AMD...

DaMulta · Sep 26, 2007, 04:29 AM

I bet the chip can hit 3.5 Ghz, and for a chip that will cost around 150USD that is going to be nice.

Weer · Sep 26, 2007, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMulta

I bet the chip can hit 3.5 Ghz, and for a chip that will cost around 150USD that is going to be nice.

I wouldn't count on that. You'd have a big problem getting any K8 CPU above 3.0Ghz.

DaMulta · Sep 26, 2007, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weer

I wouldn't count on that. You'd have a big problem getting any K8 CPU above 3.0Ghz.

I can get my 62 to 3.2 and it's 90nm

I have seen 6000+ on the TPU hit 3.5 on AIR. That is also a 90nm Chip.

Now a chip that is 65nm and unlocked we havent seen pushed yet.

Solaris17 · Sep 26, 2007, 05:33 AM

i wish the actual cpu was black instead of silver

WarEagleAU · Sep 26, 2007, 05:41 AM

sure is DaMulta. there is nothing wrong with milking the cow and thats what they are doing. Its not really OLD tech considering they came out with AM2s not that long ago.

DaJMasta · Sep 26, 2007, 06:03 AM

I think it's odd the new black edition is so low with the specs (first was 6400+..... now a 5000+?) and I'm not terribly sure what makes a die shrink equate to a gamer's/OCer's chip, but It could be a very good performer regardless, and is sure to be pretty cheap.

Just too bad it will be completely overshadowed by quads and Core 2 procs.

XooM · Sep 26, 2007, 06:06 AM

nah, its legitimately old tech; the core architecture has changed very little in what... 4 years?

mandelore · Sep 26, 2007, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Me too pb.

I'm itching to buy a new system... The wait is driving me to constantly push my Opteron further. It can't take much more. I'll probablly go and blow some cash on a new water cooling setup.

I mean

had a dream last night i was off buying 1337 DDR2 ram for my phenom setup, thats how bad its getting! its starting to invade my dreams!!!

rhythmeister · Sep 26, 2007, 06:30 AM

Blooming typical, I go and buy an fx-62 and now they release this wee bargain beastie!

Weer · Sep 26, 2007, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMulta

I can get my 62 to 3.2 and it's 90nm

I have seen 6000+ on the TPU hit 3.5 on AIR. That is also a 90nm Chip.

Now a chip that is 65nm and unlocked we havent seen pushed yet.

All K8 chips use the same flaw in the design - can't get above 3.0Ghz. It has nothing to do with the power envelope.

65nm on the 6000+ is the same as 80nm of the X1950 Pro - lowers temps, nothing more.

rhythmeister · Sep 26, 2007, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weer

All K8 chips use the same flaw in the design - can't get above 3.0Ghz. It has nothing to do with the power envelope.

65nm on the 6000+ is the same as 80nm of the X1950 Pro - lowers temps, nothing more.

Eh? MANY fx-62s can get >3.2GHz...including mine and has been verified as doing so by it's previous lucky owner, EdLSmith on DIYstreet

Wile E · Sep 26, 2007, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weer

All K8 chips use the same flaw in the design - can't get above 3.0Ghz. It has nothing to do with the power envelope.

65nm on the 6000+ is the same as 80nm of the X1950 Pro - lowers temps, nothing more.

You are flat out wrong. I've had my X2 6000+ to 3.5GHz on water. Other members have achieved the same, with a better clocking chip, on simple air.

Link with my screenshots: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpo...0&postcount=32

DanTheBanjoman · Sep 26, 2007, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XooM

nah, its legitimately old tech; the core architecture has changed very little in what... 4 years?

FSB increased from 400MHz (Banias) to 1600MHz (Stoakley), added 64 bit extensions (Core2), more IPC, 4 times as many cores(Kentsfield, Clovertown, etc), 4 way capable(Tigerton), SSE3, SSSE3 and SSE4(Penryn) just to name a few

Wile E · Sep 26, 2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

FSB increased from 400MHz (Banias) to 1600MHz (Stoakley), added 64 bit extensions (Core2), more IPC, 4 times as many cores(Kentsfield, Clovertown, etc), 4 way capable(Tigerton), SSE3, SSSE3 and SSE4(Penryn) just to name a few

I think he was talking about the core architecture of AMD cpus. AKA: K8

-=l32andon=- · Sep 26, 2007, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weer

All K8 chips use the same flaw in the design - can't get above 3.0Ghz. It has nothing to do with the power envelope.

65nm on the 6000+ is the same as 80nm of the X1950 Pro - lowers temps, nothing more.

I can't believe that you are saying a 6000+ cannot get above 3.0GHz. I can hit 3.4 with mine on air. That's with cheapie xms2 ram! Runs all 3Dmark apps & wPrime, etc.... stable.
I would love to get one of these 65nm chips, but I'll wait for the quads. Really wish the 6000+ was an unlocked 65nm , just imagine that!

DanTheBanjoman · Sep 26, 2007, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

I think he was talking about the core architecture of AMD cpus. AKA: K8

Confusing name Core is

-=l32andon=- · Sep 26, 2007, 11:25 AM

6000+ is K8, right? if he's talking about all K8 architecture then the 6000+ is included.

Sep 26, 2007, 02:56 AM	#1
Polaris573 Senior Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Little Rock, USA Posts: 3,284 (1.08/day) Thanks: 68 Thanked 765 Times in 451 Posts System Specs	AMD Announces AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition Advanced Micro Devices has announced its new central processing unit (CPU) that is officially aimed at enthusiasts and gamers who dare to overclock and tweak their systems. The new processor from the Black Edition lineup comes with unlocked multiplier, which allows to easily set it working at higher clock-speed, getting additional performance virtually for free. The AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor 5000+ Black Edition is an affordably-priced, dual-core processor targeted to the consumer channel, boasting a customizable clock multiplier for tunable performance, enabling mainstream end-users to reap the benefits of setting their own speed limits, a statement by the world’s largest maker of x86 central processing units maker reads. AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition microprocessor works at 2.60GHz, features dual-channel DDR2 memory controller, 1MB of level-two cache (512KB per core) and is compatible with socket AM2 mainboards featuring 1000MHz HyperTransport bus. The chip has 65W thermal design power and is made using 65nm process technology. The customizable clock multiplier and auto-adjustable memory frequency of the new chip enables amateurs and value-conscious enthusiasts to maximize the performance of their desktop computers without substantial hassles. Typically enthusiasts have to increase base HyperTransport bus speed from default 200MHz, which eventually causes not only CPU clock-speed boost, but also alters HT bus and memory frequency, meaning that other components apart from the microprocessor also should be able to handle increased speeds. Previously customizable clock multiplier were only available on high-end AMD Athlon 64 FX processors that could retail for as much as $1000 per chip. Given that not all enthusiasts may want to invest additional money into high-end mainboard, memory modules and spend additional time ensuring that all components work well enough, AMD’s Black Edition processors Athlon 64 X2 6400+ and 5000+ do seem to be appealing solutions for overclocking. Since nowadays computer enthusiasts and gamers tend to acquire CPUs from Intel Corp., AMD crucially needs to attract attention of those groups with attractive options. AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition processors will only be available in channel market. The chips will come as processor-in-box (PIB) package, but without cooling systems. The Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition microprocessors cost $136 in 1000-unit quantities, up slightly from $125, the cost of typical model 5000+. Source: X-bit Labs Last edited by Polaris573; Sep 26, 2007 at 04:49 PM.

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Sep 26, 2007, 04:26 AM	#8
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Sep 26, 2007, 06:30 AM	#17
rhythmeister Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Belfast...N. Ireland mate! Posts: 822 (0.27/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 32 Times in 28 Posts System Specs	Blooming typical, I go and buy an fx-62 and now they release this wee bargain beastie! __________________ My xbox360 says:http://www.360voice.com/tag/lof666 Feel free to add me then get cut in two with a Lancer WOOT WOOT

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Processor:	Phenom II X4 960T @3.6GHz x4
Motherboard:	Biostar TA890GXE
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PSU:	Enermax Infiniti 720W
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System Name:	The ClusterF**k
Processor:	980X @ 4212Mhz 24/7
Motherboard:	Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 BIOS F12
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Memory:	3x2GB Mushkin Redlines 1600Mhz 6-8-6-24
Video Card:	Evga GTX 580
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Processor:	Dual Xeon 5506
Motherboard:	Asus Z8NA-D6
Cooling:	2x Thermalright HR-01 X/passive
Memory:	6GB Corsair something
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 260 Core 216
Hard Disk:	None
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Case:	Thermaltake Swing
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PSU:	620W CM
Software:	Win2k8

Sep 26, 2007, 11:25 AM	#25
-=l32andon=- Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 43 (0.02/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	6000+ is K8, right? if he's talking about all K8 architecture then the 6000+ is included.

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