multiplier or fsb

Oct 2, 2007, 01:02 AM

i noticed that the 5000 black box is doing pretty good because of an unlocked multiplier. i thought that a high multiplier was worse for your OC untill memory started to keep you back. i thought that was the whole point behind 2000 fsb

hat · Oct 2, 2007, 01:18 AM

You don't have 2000 FSB. If I had 2000 FSB, my CPU would be running at 26GHz (I wish!!

)

Your HT link is 1000, the link with the rest of the system, and it is double-pumped, therefore they come up with the 2000MHz HT link thing. Just like DDR800 isn't 800MHz as many people say. If thier RAM was really 800MHz, it would be DDR1600. DDR800 = 400MHz.

kwchang007 · Oct 2, 2007, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bassmasta

i noticed that the 5000 black box is doing pretty good because of an unlocked multiplier. i thought that a high multiplier was worse for your OC untill memory started to keep you back. i thought that was the whole point behind 2000 fsb

Err the right combo of multiplier, memory dividers, and fsb really gets the oc working as hard as possible. Some mobos actually have a hole where if you hit that fsb, the performance drops because it loosens it's latencies.

Oct 2, 2007, 01:20 AM

o >.> well, while i'm at it, can heat make an oc unstable or just kill hardware?

kwchang007 · Oct 2, 2007, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassmasta

o >.> well, while i'm at it, can heat make an oc unstable or just kill hardware?

Both.

tigger · Oct 2, 2007, 01:23 AM

i think both,but i'm not 100%

Oct 2, 2007, 01:28 AM

well, this has been an educational twenty minutes. i was wondering why i had such horrid instability at 68/59 degrees

hat · Oct 2, 2007, 02:05 AM

^^lol
72C is the melting point for an Athlon

Oct 2, 2007, 02:25 AM

yep. that's why i keep it at a nice, cool 68/ next voltage increment spells death, tho.

hat · Oct 2, 2007, 03:29 AM

I wouldn't consider 68c anywhere near cool. My old P4 PrescHOT only ran 54c on the stock cooler.

Oct 2, 2007, 02:55 PM

well, if it doesn't cause damage, it's cool enough for my needs

i've brought it up to 71 degrees before, too. i think the melting point is 74

pbmaster · Oct 2, 2007, 04:18 PM

The performance loss you're seeing may actually be heat damage...I feel sorry for that CPU LOL

KennyT772 · Oct 2, 2007, 04:41 PM

You don't want athlons running above 65c load for any amount of time. You need to either increase the cooling capacity or lower your overclock...or you WILL have dead hardware.

Oct 2, 2007, 08:25 PM

i'm one of those people who gets their limitations in writing and abuses whatever leeway we can get. that's military training. so, core 1 at 58, core 2 at 68. actually, now that i see heat is causing instability, i'll have to rethink that. in case i destroy something, i can get an fx-64 for under $100 from a friend of mine.

Oct 2, 2007, 01:02 AM	#1
bassmasta Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	multiplier or fsb i noticed that the 5000 black box is doing pretty good because of an unlocked multiplier. i thought that a high multiplier was worse for your OC untill memory started to keep you back. i thought that was the whole point behind 2000 fsb

Oct 2, 2007, 01:18 AM	#2
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.15/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	You don't have 2000 FSB. If I had 2000 FSB, my CPU would be running at 26GHz (I wish!! ) Your HT link is 1000, the link with the rest of the system, and it is double-pumped, therefore they come up with the 2000MHz HT link thing. Just like DDR800 isn't 800MHz as many people say. If thier RAM was really 800MHz, it would be DDR1600. DDR800 = 400MHz. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

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Oct 2, 2007, 01:20 AM	#4
bassmasta Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	o >.> well, while i'm at it, can heat make an oc unstable or just kill hardware?

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Oct 2, 2007, 01:28 AM	#7
bassmasta Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	well, this has been an educational twenty minutes. i was wondering why i had such horrid instability at 68/59 degrees

Oct 2, 2007, 02:05 AM	#8
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.15/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	^^lol 72C is the melting point for an Athlon __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Oct 2, 2007, 02:25 AM	#9
bassmasta Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	yep. that's why i keep it at a nice, cool 68/ next voltage increment spells death, tho.

Oct 2, 2007, 03:29 AM	#10
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.15/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	I wouldn't consider 68c anywhere near cool. My old P4 PrescHOT only ran 54c on the stock cooler. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Oct 2, 2007, 02:55 PM	#11
bassmasta Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	well, if it doesn't cause damage, it's cool enough for my needs i've brought it up to 71 degrees before, too. i think the melting point is 74

Oct 2, 2007, 04:18 PM	#12
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Oct 2, 2007, 08:25 PM	#14
bassmasta Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	i'm one of those people who gets their limitations in writing and abuses whatever leeway we can get. that's military training. so, core 1 at 58, core 2 at 68. actually, now that i see heat is causing instability, i'll have to rethink that. in case i destroy something, i can get an fx-64 for under $100 from a friend of mine.

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