MSI Prepares Watercooled X38 Motherboard

malware · Oct 8, 2007, 04:12 PM

ASUS Republic of Gamers motherboards will be getting some competition soon as MSI is planning to release the HydroGenX38. The upcoming motherboard will feature Intel's X38 chipset and it will come with a cooling system made by Watercool.de that will cool north bridge, south bridge and the PWM area. The HydroGenX38 will actually come in two flavours: a DDR3-only version that will be released first, followed by a 'Combo' version that will come with support for both DDR3 and DDR2 memory. The rest of the specs look the same for both boards: 4x PCIe 2.0 slots (2x 16 lanes, 2x 4 lanes), 7x SATA 3.0 Gbps ports, 2x Ethernet cards, 2x eSATA ports, 1x IDE connector, 8x USB 2.0 ports and integrated Creative X-Fi Xtreme Audio soundcard. The DDR3-only HydroGenX38 is expected to cost around 379 euros.

Source: Technic3D, TechConnect Magazine

panchoman · Oct 8, 2007, 04:15 PM

Sweet, im so getting this board if i ever go x38. the new msi mobos are kick ass, msi seems to have fixed whatever factory issues they were having with some of their older mobos.

cdawall · Oct 8, 2007, 04:17 PM

welcome to the new age of MSI

remember there socket a mobos K7N2-Deltas were amazing

JacKz5o · Oct 8, 2007, 04:18 PM

Looks interesting.. I'm guessing that "heatpipe" isn't really a heatpipe but a water route? Since theres only one barb on each side.

panchoman · Oct 8, 2007, 04:22 PM

yeah, and the "blocks" are very shiny, slim and good looking. i wonder if barbs are provided? it would suck if you put some other cooler barbs in, would really ruin the look. the barbs should be painted/plated to look like a part of the cooler.

driver66 · Oct 8, 2007, 04:26 PM

379 Euros = 535.6028 U.S. dollars

Piss on that.

karlotta · Oct 8, 2007, 04:28 PM

well where does the X_FI go.. in a CF set up...

poor slot layout.

panchoman · Oct 8, 2007, 04:34 PM

well the price is decent.. its ~300 rounded for a gigabyte x38. lets say 150 bucks for nb sb and mosfit water blocks + a good x-fi card is 100-150 bucks. if you actually took a 300 buck gigabyte, bought a nb, sb, mosfit water blocks with a 150 buck x-fi card, then you'd pay more then what you're paying for this board. and the fact that theres an excellent sound card onboard really helps cause then you can use the single pci slot for something else if the slot is avaliable for use.

mandelore · Oct 8, 2007, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karlotta

well where does the X_FI go.. in a CF set up...

poor slot layout.

"integrated Creative X-Fi Xtreme Audio soundcard" duh..

karlotta · Oct 8, 2007, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mandelore

"integrated Creative X-Fi Xtreme Audio soundcard" duh..

duh... i just look at the pics..

but still the loss of the PCI slot do to CF is poor. Always a trade off....

panchoman · Oct 8, 2007, 04:44 PM

well theres always the new single slot ati's. also i sense the use of a physx card since theres 2 x16's right next to each other. also this is full x16/x16/x16/x16 right?

KennyT772 · Oct 8, 2007, 04:48 PM

Only problem is you are required to run water through the board, unlike the water optional ROG boards. This setup is better in terms of performance, but it isnt as flexible.

i_dog_69@hotmail.com · Oct 8, 2007, 06:44 PM

How does this mobo support ddr2 and ddr3 on the same board? i thought the two types of RAM were not compatable with each other. am i missing something? thanks

panchoman · Oct 8, 2007, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyT772

Only problem is you are required to run water through the board, unlike the water optional ROG boards. This setup is better in terms of performance, but it isnt as flexible.

lets make this already 500 buck board more expensive by adding alternative heatsinks.

cdawall · Oct 8, 2007, 06:50 PM

no the chipset will allow it to run either DDR2 OR DDR3 you cannot use them at the same time (while both are in the system)

WarEagleAU · Oct 8, 2007, 11:01 PM

Agreed too damn expensive, even the ROG boards arent that much...not worth it. I dont care, the integrated card from X-fi isnt even a 150 buck card...plus, I dont like having to water cool my nb, sb and mosfets...I dont think it would help.

Frogger · Oct 9, 2007, 03:32 AM

I like that the MB producers are noteing that they need a better cooling solution on this chip set .... time and testing reviews will see if they got IT Right

TheLostSwede · Oct 9, 2007, 03:56 AM

Ok, first of all, this is MSI's bog standard X38 board. I very much doubt there will be a Combo version, as they ditched that on their X38 Diamond board due to performance issues, even in DDR3 only mode. The X38 can do DDR2, but it's not easy to design a board with both memory types due to shorter trance lenghts compared to the P35 chipset.
The X-Fi card isn't onboard and it plugs into one of the x1 PCI Express slots, just as with previous high-end MSI motherboards and it's a very basic X-Fi card which might at most be worth $30-40, it's not using the full on X-Fi chip, but rather the version which is on the more basic cards from Creative.
With regards to the water cooling seting, I'm not too sure how it works, but as someone mentioned, it doesn't look as flexible as the one on the Asus ROG boards and I doubt it'll work without being hooked up to a water cooling kit.

hat · Oct 9, 2007, 04:00 AM

watercooling required for motherboards now...

Jizzler · Oct 9, 2007, 04:16 AM

LOL, am I missing something? If you bought a board with waterblocks, wouldn't you want to watercool it?

Otherwise, pick up the version without waterblocks.

Oct 8, 2007, 04:12 PM	#1
malware Eligible for custom title Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 5,413 (1.74/day) Thanks: 78 Thanked 986 Times in 497 Posts System Specs	MSI Prepares Watercooled X38 Motherboard ASUS Republic of Gamers motherboards will be getting some competition soon as MSI is planning to release the HydroGenX38. The upcoming motherboard will feature Intel's X38 chipset and it will come with a cooling system made by Watercool.de that will cool north bridge, south bridge and the PWM area. The HydroGenX38 will actually come in two flavours: a DDR3-only version that will be released first, followed by a 'Combo' version that will come with support for both DDR3 and DDR2 memory. The rest of the specs look the same for both boards: 4x PCIe 2.0 slots (2x 16 lanes, 2x 4 lanes), 7x SATA 3.0 Gbps ports, 2x Ethernet cards, 2x eSATA ports, 1x IDE connector, 8x USB 2.0 ports and integrated Creative X-Fi Xtreme Audio soundcard. The DDR3-only HydroGenX38 is expected to cost around 379 euros. Source: Technic3D, TechConnect Magazine Last edited by malware; Oct 8, 2007 at 04:19 PM.

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panchoman Sold my stars! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,650 (3.11/day) Thanks: 339 Thanked 1,227 Times in 1,036 Posts System Specs	yeah, and the "blocks" are very shiny, slim and good looking. i wonder if barbs are provided? it would suck if you put some other cooler barbs in, would really ruin the look. the barbs should be painted/plated to look like a part of the cooler. __________________ Need any Graphics Made? Visit Graphic Artists United! R.I.P Megan--Heaven has a new angel

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Oct 8, 2007, 04:28 PM	#7
karlotta Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 42 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	well where does the X_FI go.. in a CF set up... poor slot layout.

Oct 8, 2007, 04:34 PM	#8
panchoman Sold my stars! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,650 (3.11/day) Thanks: 339 Thanked 1,227 Times in 1,036 Posts System Specs	well the price is decent.. its ~300 rounded for a gigabyte x38. lets say 150 bucks for nb sb and mosfit water blocks + a good x-fi card is 100-150 bucks. if you actually took a 300 buck gigabyte, bought a nb, sb, mosfit water blocks with a 150 buck x-fi card, then you'd pay more then what you're paying for this board. and the fact that theres an excellent sound card onboard really helps cause then you can use the single pci slot for something else if the slot is avaliable for use. __________________ Need any Graphics Made? Visit Graphic Artists United! R.I.P Megan--Heaven has a new angel

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panchoman Sold my stars! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,650 (3.11/day) Thanks: 339 Thanked 1,227 Times in 1,036 Posts System Specs	well theres always the new single slot ati's. also i sense the use of a physx card since theres 2 x16's right next to each other. also this is full x16/x16/x16/x16 right? __________________ Need any Graphics Made? Visit Graphic Artists United! R.I.P Megan--Heaven has a new angel

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WarEagleAU Bird of Prey Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gurley, AL Posts: 9,994 (3.99/day) Thanks: 3,810 Thanked 557 Times in 521 Posts System Specs	Agreed too damn expensive, even the ROG boards arent that much...not worth it. I dont care, the integrated card from X-fi isnt even a 150 buck card...plus, I dont like having to water cool my nb, sb and mosfets...I dont think it would help. __________________ =-TheEagle-= http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=62454 “You crazy? Surfing any website without an antivirus is like freaking with a dirty woman without protection” -OzzmanFloyd120 - Edited for content and clarity

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TheLostSwede Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: A little green island far far away Posts: 843 (0.27/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 152 Times in 113 Posts System Specs	Ok, first of all, this is MSI's bog standard X38 board. I very much doubt there will be a Combo version, as they ditched that on their X38 Diamond board due to performance issues, even in DDR3 only mode. The X38 can do DDR2, but it's not easy to design a board with both memory types due to shorter trance lenghts compared to the P35 chipset. The X-Fi card isn't onboard and it plugs into one of the x1 PCI Express slots, just as with previous high-end MSI motherboards and it's a very basic X-Fi card which might at most be worth $30-40, it's not using the full on X-Fi chip, but rather the version which is on the more basic cards from Creative. With regards to the water cooling seting, I'm not too sure how it works, but as someone mentioned, it doesn't look as flexible as the one on the Asus ROG boards and I doubt it'll work without being hooked up to a water cooling kit. Last edited by TheLostSwede; Oct 9, 2007 at 04:10 AM.

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Oct 9, 2007, 04:00 AM	#19
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Oct 9, 2007, 04:16 AM	#20
Jizzler Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Geneva, FL, USA Posts: 3,010 (1.43/day) Thanks: 567 Thanked 606 Times in 487 Posts System Specs	LOL, am I missing something? If you bought a board with waterblocks, wouldn't you want to watercool it? Otherwise, pick up the version without waterblocks.

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