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Old Oct 17, 2007, 06:53 AM   #1
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Utorrent 1.7 is rigged to prevent downloading

as most of you already know, utorrent was bought out and some changes were unavoidable.

for me with 1.7 it slowed down the average torrent download to about 35 kb/s at the most and added spyware but the spyware was easy to remove with ad aware so no big deal.

with 1.7.4 it was slowed to limit the downloads to run at a 60% to 40% uploads so no upload means downloads run at 4 or 5 kb/s at the most untill you start uploading.

the new 1.7.5 it is now flipped to 60% uploads to 40% downloads so to download at 40 kb/s you have to be uploading at 60 kb/s.

i just uninstalled Utorrent 1.7.5 and the same 4 torrents that were running at 4 kb/s downlod are now running on Utorrent 1.6.1 at 68 kb/s, 50 kb/s, and 135 kb/s.

if you are a Utorrent user google for an old download version 1.6 or 1.6.1 but nothing after that or it will run slower and save it to disk because the Utorrent website has removed all old downloads so you have you use 1.7.5

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Old Oct 17, 2007, 06:57 AM   #2
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www.filehippo.com has every version. Just an FYI
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Is this a fact? Cause I have uTorrent 1.7.5 (Build 4602) and am currently downloading uh..."educational sex ed videos" at 600 kb/s while uploading at about 35 kb/s, I've also had no other problems with this version and other downloads.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 08:14 AM   #5
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yeah my net is 1500/256, and i get a good 160KB/s on well seeded torrents.

Its possible 1.6.1 is faster for some reason, but i've had no spyware alerts or problems either. please post links or detailed info about your claims.

Edit: yeah here we go u torrent 1.7.5 - redownloading norton ghost 10 because my CD is scratched to hell, at 156KB/s with an upload of 8KB/s

So.... yeah. your claims arent holding up so well here.

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Old Oct 17, 2007, 08:43 AM   #6
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i also have 1.7.5 and no problem here with μtorrent
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www.filehippo.com has every version. Just an FYI
Id be wary of file hippo. They often host files laced with viruses.
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If you are having speed issue's then try and download a torrent from OpenOffice.org or Ubuntu.com and see if they download at quicker speeds.

It may be the torrents/trackers that you are using that are the cause of the slow speeds.

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as most of you already know, utorrent was bought out and some changes were unavoidable.

for me with 1.7 it slowed down the average torrent download to about 35 kb/s at the most and added spyware but the spyware was easy to remove with ad aware so no big deal.

with 1.7.4 it was slowed to limit the downloads to run at a 60% to 40% uploads so no upload means downloads run at 4 or 5 kb/s at the most untill you start uploading.

the new 1.7.5 it is now flipped to 60% uploads to 40% downloads so to download at 40 kb/s you have to be uploading at 60 kb/s.

i just uninstalled Utorrent 1.7.5 and the same 4 torrents that were running at 4 kb/s downlod are now running on Utorrent 1.6.1 at 68 kb/s, 50 kb/s, and 135 kb/s.

if you are a Utorrent user google for an old download version 1.6 or 1.6.1 but nothing after that or it will run slower and save it to disk because the Utorrent website has removed all old downloads so you have you use 1.7.5
I use 1.7.5, and none of that is true at all. Please stop posting BS.



I can do all the comparisons I want. 1.6.1 isn't going to be faster because 1.7.5 is already maxing out my download limit. Oh and what is my upload at? 10k, but you claim that is impossible if I am downloading at 300k...

And the spyware thing is BS too.
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these were actual observations of how the program was working for me on comcast cable modem connection using the program as it was downloaded without seeding torrents or creating any port forwarding.

they were compared using 4 actual real tracker links saved to the desktop to avoid any differences in the downloads being compared.

as for your actual speeds i can only say try a side by side comparison yourself, get a download for 1.6 and compare your speeds.

as for spyware run ad aware before downloading (its not added by updating) and again after downloading and you will see the download tracking spyware. admitedly i only can say for sure about 1.7.1 was where i found it purely by accident after format and only upgraded since so maybe they removed it and as i said, it was removed the first time i ran a spyware remover so its no problem other than being a shock to see it there in the first place.

this is not about trashing Utorrent, i use it so i can check out movies to see if i want to rent them and like it very much but it is getting worse for me with every new version so i wanted to draw attention to how much faster users will get torrents by reverting to 1.6.
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as most of you already know, utorrent was bought out and some changes were unavoidable.

for me with 1.7 it slowed down the average torrent download to about 35 kb/s at the most and added spyware but the spyware was easy to remove with ad aware so no big deal.

with 1.7.4 it was slowed to limit the downloads to run at a 60% to 40% uploads so no upload means downloads run at 4 or 5 kb/s at the most untill you start uploading.

the new 1.7.5 it is now flipped to 60% uploads to 40% downloads so to download at 40 kb/s you have to be uploading at 60 kb/s.

i just uninstalled Utorrent 1.7.5 and the same 4 torrents that were running at 4 kb/s downlod are now running on Utorrent 1.6.1 at 68 kb/s, 50 kb/s, and 135 kb/s.

if you are a Utorrent user google for an old download version 1.6 or 1.6.1 but nothing after that or it will run slower and save it to disk because the Utorrent website has removed all old downloads so you have you use 1.7.5
Thats total BS m8, Ive used 1.7 before and it allows downloads perfectly (but I do prefer 1.6)

I think you need to check your port is forwarding correctly Also, make sure you use reliable Torrent trackers
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i dont do port forwarding for security reasons and that appears to be the problem.

1.6 runs great speeds without needing port forwarding so it works best for me.
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its right and wrong all at the same time.

bittorrent owns utorrent and in the 1.7 versions they have put somthing in the code that makes your isp more aware of the fact that you are using torrents. now if your isp has a problem with this they will be throttling your connection, not utorrent. but it is because of utorrent 1.7 that they know what your doing.

get utorrent 1.6 and follow this guide if you have any issues with your isp throttling your speeds.

sidenote

utorrent has always limited your download if you limit your upload to less than 8kps
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its right and wrong all at the same time.

bittorrent owns utorrent and in the 1.7 versions they have put somthing in the code that makes your isp more aware of the fact that you are using torrents. now if your isp has a problem with this they will be throttling your connection, not utorrent. but it is because of utorrent 1.7 that they know what your doing.

get utorrent 1.6 and follow this guide if you have any issues with your isp throttling your speeds.

sidenote

utorrent has always limited your download if you limit your upload to less than 8kps

well i wasnt sure of why it was happening but i did "see" it happening.

my ISP must be limiting me and that spyware i noticed must be connected to that code you mentioned, all i can remember is that it was a low threat tracking node.

thinking back on it now, it was just about the time 1.7 came out that our ISP was bought out by Comcast so they must be the cause of my problems and 1.7 tracking ability is helping them do it.

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i also have 1.7.5 and no problem here with μtorrent
ditto.
works great for me as well.
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BS thread.
if you keep saying it often enough and wish real hard you might covince yourself of that.
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if you keep saying it often enough and wish real hard you might covince yourself of that.
well, and i really don't mean to instigate anything by this, but so far you're the only one who has anything bad to say about utorrent 1.7 and above...
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well, and i really don't mean to instigate anything by this, but so far you're the only one who has anything bad to say about utorrent 1.7 and above...
weather you dissagree with what i am saying or not is open for disscussion but that does not mean the thread is a BS thread. i would never enter another persons thread and try to end all discussion by claiming it to be BS.

it may be just me experiencing this but it is real and it is happening to me.

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its right and wrong all at the same time.

bittorrent owns utorrent and in the 1.7 versions they have put somthing in the code that makes your isp more aware of the fact that you are using torrents. now if your isp has a problem with this they will be throttling your connection, not utorrent. but it is because of utorrent 1.7 that they know what your doing.

get utorrent 1.6 and follow this guide if you have any issues with your isp throttling your speeds.

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utorrent has always limited your download if you limit your upload to less than 8kps
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weather you dissagree with what i am saying or not is open for disscussion but that does not mean the thread is a BS thread. i would never enter another persons thread and try to end all discussion by claiming it to be BS.

it may be just me experiencing this but it is real and it is happening to me.

this appears to confirm what i am experiencing:
Sorry m8. Did not think you would take it that way.
Isn't the obvious thing to contact your ISP to check if they are checking you?
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