Is it possible to link two routers together wirelessly?

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 09:40 AM

OK,I have a router downstairs, but I can't get a very good signal from it half the time. What I want to know is if I buy an additional router, can I link it wirelessly to the one downstairs? This is so I can use an Ethernet cable to provide access to the net. Is it possible?

Thanks,

Ben

DanTheBanjoman · Oct 24, 2007, 09:49 AM

Look into roaming. Also, you're better off using cables.

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 09:58 AM

Would this be it, by any chance?

JrRacinFan · Oct 24, 2007, 12:19 PM

Why not an access point that supports range extension?

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 12:21 PM

Because it would be easier this way, and I'd feel more important as the only guy who knows about computers in the family with a router in my room.

ex_reven · Oct 24, 2007, 12:25 PM

You could do it the expensive way, by buying a really awesome router and reciever that actually performs.

Or you could set up relays. But these are all expensive solutions.

The best one would probably be to drop a cable down into the wall to downstairs and either run wired or setup an antenna

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 12:27 PM

I tried to get my parents to let me do that, but they are'nt sure it'd be a good idea (read: refused). And besides, I don't have an Ethernet cable long enough ATM, only a 2 metres long patch cable.

JrRacinFan · Oct 24, 2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Clarke

Because it would be easier this way, and I'd feel more important as the only guy who knows about computers in the family with a router in my room.

So basically, bragging rights?

I say the access point would be easiest with less headaches. But to one his own.

You would have to setup an ad-hoc. I am also pretty sure you would have to assign either router a static IP.

Now I am not the best at networking so don't take my word for it.

ex_reven · Oct 24, 2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Clarke

I tried to get my parents to let me do that, but they are'nt sure it'd be a good idea (read: refused). And besides, I don't have an Ethernet cable long enough ATM, only a 2 metres long patch cable.

Ask your parents why they ran the internet lines into upstairs if they wanted to access it downstairs

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 12:32 PM

Yeah, bragging. It'd also be good because I'd constantly get 100MBps between all of my systems when I set them up and get ethernet cables for them.

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ex_reven

Ask your parents why they ran the internet lines into upstairs if they wanted to access it downstairs

What? We don't... the router is wireless, and downstairs, where the phone port is. I want to have another router upstairs, also wireless, that will get me a signal from the downstairs router. Make sense? Maybe I should draw a diagram to help you with the layout of my house...

JrRacinFan · Oct 24, 2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Clarke

100MBps between all of my systems

What's the wireless speed of your current router?

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 12:35 PM

54MBps. But I mean file transfers just between my own systems upstairs. The Ethernet ports are 100MBps.

ex_reven · Oct 24, 2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Clarke

Yeah, bragging. It'd also be good because I'd constantly get 100MBps between all of my systems when I set them up and get ethernet cables for them.

100MB/s is a bit optimistic lol.

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 12:37 PM

Read what I said above ex_reven...

JrRacinFan · Oct 24, 2007, 12:37 PM

Ben, just do an access point in combination with a network hub.

To me, it sounds the most realistic.

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 12:37 PM

I don't know how to set those up. How well would it work in comparison to the linked routers method?

JrRacinFan · Oct 24, 2007, 12:38 PM

The same as but it would be easier to setup.

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 12:40 PM

OK. What do I need to do it? With 2 routers, I know what I need, and it would probably be eaiser as I can wire my own systems up to prevent loss of wireless signal. But that method, I don't know how to do...

JrRacinFan · Oct 24, 2007, 12:42 PM

Access point that supports WDS bridging and pretty much any hub/switch/non-wireless router.

This wiki entry is a decent read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireles...ibution_System

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 12:43 PM

Yes, but wouldn't that involve cables up the stairs? That's what I'm trying to avoid.

ex_reven · Oct 24, 2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Clarke

Read what I said above ex_reven...

I wasnt talking about the wireless.
I was talking about the ethernet.

JrRacinFan · Oct 24, 2007, 12:44 PM

No it would not, Ben. Hence the access point with WDS BRIDGING!

Ben Clarke · Oct 24, 2007, 12:47 PM

WDS bridging... never heard of it, explain?

ex_reven · Oct 24, 2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Clarke

WDS bridging... never heard of it, explain?

Sounds like some sort of repeater from what was on google.

EDIT - Seems its an AD HOC wireless network

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Ben Clarke Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Posts: 2,690 (1.09/day) Thanks: 72 Thanked 157 Times in 134 Posts System Specs	Because it would be easier this way, and I'd feel more important as the only guy who knows about computers in the family with a router in my room. __________________ [img disabled]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png[/img] Knowlege is power. Power corrupts. Be evil, study hard. “E-mail Devil-Boy challenging him to a duel. Sabers, if possible.” -DanTheBanjoman

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Ben Clarke Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Posts: 2,690 (1.09/day) Thanks: 72 Thanked 157 Times in 134 Posts System Specs	I tried to get my parents to let me do that, but they are'nt sure it'd be a good idea (read: refused). And besides, I don't have an Ethernet cable long enough ATM, only a 2 metres long patch cable. __________________ [img disabled]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png[/img] Knowlege is power. Power corrupts. Be evil, study hard. “E-mail Devil-Boy challenging him to a duel. Sabers, if possible.” -DanTheBanjoman

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Ben Clarke Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Posts: 2,690 (1.09/day) Thanks: 72 Thanked 157 Times in 134 Posts System Specs	Yeah, bragging. It'd also be good because I'd constantly get 100MBps between all of my systems when I set them up and get ethernet cables for them. __________________ [img disabled]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png[/img] Knowlege is power. Power corrupts. Be evil, study hard. “E-mail Devil-Boy challenging him to a duel. Sabers, if possible.” -DanTheBanjoman

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Ben Clarke Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Posts: 2,690 (1.09/day) Thanks: 72 Thanked 157 Times in 134 Posts System Specs	54MBps. But I mean file transfers just between my own systems upstairs. The Ethernet ports are 100MBps. __________________ [img disabled]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png[/img] Knowlege is power. Power corrupts. Be evil, study hard. “E-mail Devil-Boy challenging him to a duel. Sabers, if possible.” -DanTheBanjoman

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Ben Clarke Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Posts: 2,690 (1.09/day) Thanks: 72 Thanked 157 Times in 134 Posts System Specs	Read what I said above ex_reven... __________________ [img disabled]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png[/img] Knowlege is power. Power corrupts. Be evil, study hard. “E-mail Devil-Boy challenging him to a duel. Sabers, if possible.” -DanTheBanjoman

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Ben Clarke Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Posts: 2,690 (1.09/day) Thanks: 72 Thanked 157 Times in 134 Posts System Specs	OK. What do I need to do it? With 2 routers, I know what I need, and it would probably be eaiser as I can wire my own systems up to prevent loss of wireless signal. But that method, I don't know how to do... __________________ [img disabled]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png[/img] Knowlege is power. Power corrupts. Be evil, study hard. “E-mail Devil-Boy challenging him to a duel. Sabers, if possible.” -DanTheBanjoman

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Ben Clarke Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Posts: 2,690 (1.09/day) Thanks: 72 Thanked 157 Times in 134 Posts System Specs	Yes, but wouldn't that involve cables up the stairs? That's what I'm trying to avoid. __________________ [img disabled]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png[/img] Knowlege is power. Power corrupts. Be evil, study hard. “E-mail Devil-Boy challenging him to a duel. Sabers, if possible.” -DanTheBanjoman

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Ben Clarke Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Posts: 2,690 (1.09/day) Thanks: 72 Thanked 157 Times in 134 Posts System Specs	WDS bridging... never heard of it, explain? __________________ [img disabled]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png[/img] Knowlege is power. Power corrupts. Be evil, study hard. “E-mail Devil-Boy challenging him to a duel. Sabers, if possible.” -DanTheBanjoman

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