Petiton: the reformation of the moderator system and new moderators

[panchoman]

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

But here is my final point and I will let it all go .......If W1z wanted or was thinking of the need for new mods, why does he need pancho to get our input????

If he honestly felt the need why would he not just empty the needed slots then start the application /nomination process for new ones?

not a slam Pancho...just an observation.

i think he was going to kick some mods, but stopped and decided to give my idea a try, he even asked me for a list of the mods i saw as inactive. in the end he asked me to post this and see what happens. everything would be clearer if i could give you an excerpt of the conversation but it would violate his privacy and stuff so yeah.

[PVTCaboose1337]

You know what... I don't know why Pancho got the job. He must be really competent, and W1z sees something in him.

I want to see what W1z says about this whole thread, I am predicting it went on a skewed path.

[panchoman]

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

You know what... I don't know why Pancho got the job. He must be really competent, and W1z sees something in him.

I want to see what W1z says about this whole thread, I am predicting it went on a skewed path.

it did, i think he choose me cause i went to him with a list of questions and some thoughts on tpu and all like about the skins and animated avatrars and stuff. i supposs he just picked me cause it would easier to have me to do it then to have him come over here and do it etc .

[HookeyStreet]

Pancho, you seem like one of the more mature members of the 'TOTs' (Teenagers Of TPU) so Im willing to listen to what you have to say (after reading through the posts more throughly I can see what your actually getting at now ) Its just a shame my opinion means jack s*it lol

[panchoman]

Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

Pancho, you seem like one of the more mature members of the 'TOTs' (Teenagers Of TPU) so Im willing to listen to what you have to say (after reading through the post more throughly I can see what you actaully getting at now ) Its just a shame my opinion means jack s*it lol

"after reading through the post more throughly I can see what you actaully getting at now" i wish the rest of the people did..

i love helping people, managing things, coordinating things, etc. and one things for sure, im not afraid to voice my opinion, and thats why i seem to me the only one thats actually trying to improve tpu by means of reform, etc.

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by panchoman

i love helping people,

There is what it takes to be a mod.

[AphexDreamer]

Originally Posted by panchoman

"after reading through the post more throughly I can see what you actaully getting at now" i wish the rest of the people did..

i love helping people, managing things, coordinating things, etc. and one things for sure, im not afraid to voice my opinion, and thats why i seem to me the only one thats actually trying to improve tpu by means of reform, etc.

I Do, and I say your doing a great thing

I'm not trying to suck up or anything either.

[HookeyStreet]

Originally Posted by panchoman

"after reading through the post more throughly I can see what you actaully getting at now" i wish the rest of the people did..

i love helping people, managing things, coordinating things, etc. and one things for sure, im not afraid to voice my opinion, and thats why i seem to me the only one thats actually trying to improve tpu by means of reform, etc.

Maybe its because your young (and fairly new to TPU) that some of us old skool members (LOL) dont like the idea of 'change' that you purpose

[panchoman]

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

There is what it takes to be a mod.

but i dont have everything, haven't been here long enough, not enough posts, etc. but yeah, i've been a admin/co-admin/mod on most of the forums i've been at before tpu.

[tigger]

It seems to me,any threads about mods seem to go off on a skewed path.

I think the answer to the first post was either agree or disagree,which turned into a pancho bash.No one seemed to understand(or believe) w1zz asked him to post it.

If their are mods who are mostly inactive,then are they really mods if they're not doing any modding? maybe the mods should have to be on the forum for at least a set number of hours a week/day/??.

I also think that mods have a personality and are a member of tpu too,but they have the rules to uphold,so if they issue a warning and it goes unheeded then they have to take harsher action on the offender,be it friend or whatever.That is why they are a mod and been the mod comes first over been a member of the forum.Been a mod is a job is it not? paid or unpaid.

people come on our forums for help or to solve problems,we should all be here to help if we can,even the mods.This is a great forum and i have been on quite a few.This is the one i come on the most,and have made quite a few friends on here since i've been on here.I am always willing to help anyone on here if i can.

[panchoman]

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

I Do, and I say your doing a great thing

I'm not trying to suck up or anything either.

thanks aphex, means a lot

yeah i guess, i just like to make the world better if i can somehow, and tpu was one of those things, where i see things that could be improved easily and simply , and thought, lets see what happens when i talk to someone higher up about my ideas.

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by panchoman

but i dont have everything, haven't been here long enough, not enough posts, etc. but yeah, i've been a admin/co-admin/mod on most of the forums i've been at before tpu.

My gosh, post don't matter. NONE OF THAT MATTERS! And you have not been here long enough, well, you understand what is going on and that is good enough for me.

[Mussels]

a new mod or two sounds like a good idea.

[panchoman]

Originally Posted by tigger69

It seems to me,any threads about mods seem to go off on a skewed path.

I think the answer to the first post was either agree or disagree,which turned into a pancho bash.No one seemed to understand(or believe) w1zz asked him to post it.

If their are mods who are mostly inactive,then are they really mods if they're not doing any modding? maybe the mods should have to be on the forum for at least a set number of hours a week/day/??.

I also think that mods have a personality and are a member of tpu too,but they have the rules to uphold,so if they issue a warning and it goes unheeded then they have to take harsher action on the offender,be it friend or whatever.That is why they are a mod and been the mod comes first over been a member of the forum.Been a mod is a job is it not? paid or unpaid.

well about the inactive mods, this is where im coming from, we have quite a few of them and they are blocking the slots for newer mods to be. they were qualified to be a mod before and they earned it, so thats why i decided to make them retired mods rather then deprive em of their power. and you're absolutely right in the last paragraph, to be a mod takes an enormous amount of responsibilty

[AphexDreamer]

LOL, look at what I found, Totaly on topic with all this trust me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_moderator

Choosing a moderator
Different boards choose moderators in different ways. As noted, on some boards moderators are just friends of the owner. On more serious boards, administrators and senior staff generally choose moderators from among long-time, respected, level-headed members.

There are generally sufficient volunteers for moderator positions that it's unnecessary for even large, professional boards to pay them. Boards with paid subscriptions may waive them for staff.

In Slash-based sites like Slashdot, moderators are semi-randomly selected by the software among registered users within a certain posting frequency range (not obsessed posters nor non-contributors). Their task is limited to five evaluations ("points") that they can distribute among any recent comment.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_moderator"

[PVTCaboose1337]

That is interesting... random selection... not cool.

[panchoman]

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

My gosh, post don't matter. NONE OF THAT MATTERS! And you have not been here long enough, well, you understand what is going on and that is good enough for me.

yeah, you're right i guess, but not everyone feels the same way, i mean not even the power users accept me and they make up stupid random excuses as to why not to let me in (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpo...postcount=1051) if the power users cant accept me, let alone the rest of tpu... but if you want to tell wish that i should be a mod, i dont complain

[AphexDreamer]

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

That is interesting... random selection... not cool.

Well, its randaomly done with certain traits in mind.

[tigger]

I fully understand a mod has friends too,on forums.And i realize how hard it must be to ban a friend,but i would do it if the need arose.It is quite a big responsibility really,maybe some people dont really understand how much.

Well there is quite a lot of feedback on here for w1zz to read dunno what he will make of it tho' its been quite a discussion upto now.I'm sure if w1zzard decides he needs to restructure the mod system or appoint new ones he will.He does a grand job of being the heart of tpu.

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by panchoman

yeah, you're right i guess, but not everyone feels the same way, i mean not even the power users accept me and they make up stupid random excuses as to why not to let me in (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpo...postcount=1051) if the power users cant accept me, let alone the rest of tpu... but if you want to tell wish that i should be a mod, i dont complain

You should hang yourself now then... Being a mod, not everyone will like you.

[panchoman]

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

You should hang yourself now then... Being a mod, not everyone will like you.

i do my job, mod the forums, help people that want my help, what more? idc if the power users dont like me an illegit reason. you think everyone likes every mods?

[ex_reven]

Originally Posted by panchoman

yeah, you're right i guess, but not everyone feels the same way, i mean not even the power users accept me and they make up stupid random excuses as to why not to let me in (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpo...postcount=1051) if the power users cant accept me, let alone the rest of tpu... but if you want to tell wish that i should be a mod, i dont complain

Power users dont accept you because you have your own club. People like having their own space, its as simple as that. They liked having their little private club, and they never bothered nobody so nobody bothers them. Its just an unspoken sort of agreement that people have in clubs. They have their own friends and you have yours.

[pt]

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

- Can switch from normal user to mod at moments notice

isn't that a disease (j/k)
iin my opinion 1 or 2 mods more won't harm and it would benefit

[panchoman]

Originally Posted by ex_reven

Power users dont accept you because you have your own club. People like having their own space, its as simple as that. They liked having their little private club, and they never bothered nobody so nobody bothers them. Its just an unspoken sort of agreement that people have in clubs. They have their own friends and you have yours.

yeah i supposs, i dont care about being in that club anyway. you get a little bad saying your a power user, great great. but thats about it, i like my 15' screen thank you very much.

[ex_reven]

Originally Posted by panchoman

yeah i supposs, i dont care about being in that club anyway. you get a little bad saying your a power user, great great. but thats about it, i like my 15' screen thank you very much.

It has nothing to do with the screen and everything to do with your character. Dont take it personally, its just a friend thing. Once you have a good thing going you avoid change in fear that it will ruin what you have. Anyway, back on topic...