CM stacker 830 won't work

strick94u · Nov 3, 2007, 03:29 AM

I have been building pc's since 1994 and have never run it to this problem. so people
I have a brand new CM Stacker 830 and I have put 2 power supplys and 3 mother boards in it and none will boot even with all outside acessories (usb audio 1394) unplugged reset and power wires unplugged short the power terms take the screws off the board and hold it away from the hold off screws. and the psu's and mother boards work fine in other cases.
Cooler Master support will not email me back. its a 279.00 dollar door stop!!!
any thoughts?

ex_reven · Nov 3, 2007, 03:43 AM

So your saying if you connect the power, usb etc cables it doesnt turn on. But if you short the power wires it works?

Sounds like your powerbutton is broken or disconnected within the front panel.

ex_reven · Nov 3, 2007, 03:48 AM

Hm I misread your post. It must be related to the mobo.

What did you short the power terminals with? and did you remember your spacers?

strick94u · Nov 3, 2007, 04:37 AM

Isolate the mother board short the power prongs nothing. I think its cursed

ex_reven · Nov 3, 2007, 04:40 AM

Weird.
Both ATX cables plugged in?

Only other thing I can think of is a cable touching bare metal and shorting out.

Clear CMOS maybe?

strick94u · Nov 3, 2007, 04:55 AM

on 3 mother boards yup and all 3 work fine in other systems.

Namslas90 · Nov 3, 2007, 05:01 AM

Is PSU getting a good connection to chasis(ground). Unhook all the cables from PSU, short the green to black on ATX(20-24 pin) and check your v-outs, while it's mounted in the case but not connected to mobo.

DOM · Nov 3, 2007, 05:01 AM

what do you have hooked up to PSU's that you dont when it works ?

strick94u · Nov 3, 2007, 05:11 AM

It never works in the case I have run a ground from frame of case to psu I have tried known good psu's and mother boards I am typing from 1 as we speak. There is no reason this should not work its freaking me out

Namslas90 · Nov 3, 2007, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strick94u

It never works in the case I have run a ground from frame of case to psu I have tried known good psu's and mother boards I am typing from 1 as we speak. There is no reason this should not work its freaking me out

Thats realy weird, have you tried a mobo without insulating it from spacers?

tkpenalty · Nov 3, 2007, 05:21 AM

That is ODD. Check for any possible pieces of material that lay around the motherboard tray, you are bound to find at least... SOMETHING that shorts something out. Wait for coolermaster to reply. It should work tho o.o

strick94u · Nov 3, 2007, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkpenalty

That is ODD. Check for any possible pieces of material that lay around the motherboard tray, you are bound to find at least... SOMETHING that shorts something out. Wait for coolermaster to reply. It should work tho o.o

This has been a 2 month process I have tried everything mentioned its gotten to the point I want to take it out and shoot it with my AK 47. And as for CoolerMaster they don't reply 4 emails last month.

strick94u · Nov 3, 2007, 06:57 PM

Fixed it got an Enermax chakra http://www.enermax.com.tw/admin/pic/...5394227442.jpg
need to get rid of a few cases now antec 900 with red fans and a 500 watt antec psu modified thermal take Bach vx 500watt enermax liberty and a pile of crap CM stacker 830 pos edition

tkpenalty · Nov 3, 2007, 10:02 PM

mmm... how about if you sell the stacker, and say its TAINTED? *value goes up 500%*

DaMulta · Nov 3, 2007, 10:05 PM

So did you try and start the motherboard with the screwdriver trick?

Maybe the power switch is messed up.

I love my 830

strick94u · Nov 4, 2007, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMulta

So did you try and start the motherboard with the screwdriver trick?

Maybe the power switch is messed up.

I love my 830

Yes I did I did everything shy of casting Satan out of the damn thing would have done that to but I think I can sell it on E bay possed for more.

patton45 · Nov 4, 2007, 04:31 AM

sounds like the switch do you have a mobo like evga or dfi with the power switch on the mobo to run out of case? if you do use that to try and power on in the case i bet its the front panel from what my similar experiences have been. also how much do you want to sell your antec 900 for? i know its off topic

strick94u · Nov 4, 2007, 04:47 AM

In the end its the new Enermax Chakra with monster fan option the Monsoon II hybrid tec cooler and a new OCZ 600 watt psu with 4 12v 18 amp rails. I am going to miss this quite little antec case it cools a e6300@ 3.1 ghz and an over clocked 7900 gs with no noise at all but its butt ugly.

ex_reven · Nov 4, 2007, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patton45

sounds like the switch do you have a mobo like evga or dfi with the power switch on the mobo to run out of case? if you do use that to try and power on in the case i bet its the front panel from what my similar experiences have been. also how much do you want to sell your antec 900 for? i know its off topic

Its not the switch. The front panel has nothing to do with it, that was my initial thoughts. Reread his initial post, he jump started the mobo with no success but it works in other cases.
It has to be some sort of power/grounding issue.

Wile E · Nov 4, 2007, 06:27 AM

Did you install the stand offs? (I know you probably did, but it's a standard first question in these situations.) And if you did, don't put insulators on top of them.

Nov 3, 2007, 03:29 AM	#1
strick94u Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,308 (0.51/day) Thanks: 80 Thanked 71 Times in 64 Posts System Specs	CM stacker 830 won't work I have been building pc's since 1994 and have never run it to this problem. so people I have a brand new CM Stacker 830 and I have put 2 power supplys and 3 mother boards in it and none will boot even with all outside acessories (usb audio 1394) unplugged reset and power wires unplugged short the power terms take the screws off the board and hold it away from the hold off screws. and the psu's and mother boards work fine in other cases. Cooler Master support will not email me back. its a 279.00 dollar door stop!!! any thoughts? __________________ http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5404335

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Nov 3, 2007, 04:37 AM	#4
strick94u Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,308 (0.51/day) Thanks: 80 Thanked 71 Times in 64 Posts System Specs	Isolate the mother board short the power prongs nothing. I think its cursed __________________ http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5404335

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Nov 3, 2007, 04:55 AM	#6
strick94u Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,308 (0.51/day) Thanks: 80 Thanked 71 Times in 64 Posts System Specs	on 3 mother boards yup and all 3 work fine in other systems. __________________ http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5404335

Nov 3, 2007, 03:43 AM	#2
ex_reven Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,413 (1.39/day) Thanks: 117 Thanked 181 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	So your saying if you connect the power, usb etc cables it doesnt turn on. But if you short the power wires it works? Sounds like your powerbutton is broken or disconnected within the front panel.

Nov 3, 2007, 03:48 AM	#3
ex_reven Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,413 (1.39/day) Thanks: 117 Thanked 181 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	Hm I misread your post. It must be related to the mobo. What did you short the power terminals with? and did you remember your spacers?

Nov 3, 2007, 04:40 AM	#5
ex_reven Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,413 (1.39/day) Thanks: 117 Thanked 181 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	Weird. Both ATX cables plugged in? Only other thing I can think of is a cable touching bare metal and shorting out. Clear CMOS maybe?

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Namslas90 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 3,908 (1.59/day) Thanks: 107 Thanked 577 Times in 533 Posts System Specs	Is PSU getting a good connection to chasis(ground). Unhook all the cables from PSU, short the green to black on ATX(20-24 pin) and check your v-outs, while it's mounted in the case but not connected to mobo. __________________

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Nov 3, 2007, 05:11 AM	#9
strick94u Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,308 (0.51/day) Thanks: 80 Thanked 71 Times in 64 Posts System Specs	It never works in the case I have run a ground from frame of case to psu I have tried known good psu's and mother boards I am typing from 1 as we speak. There is no reason this should not work its freaking me out __________________ http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5404335

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tkpenalty Eligible for custom title Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Australia, Sydney Posts: 5,023 (2.07/day) Thanks: 412 Thanked 361 Times in 266 Posts System Specs	That is ODD. Check for any possible pieces of material that lay around the motherboard tray, you are bound to find at least... SOMETHING that shorts something out. Wait for coolermaster to reply. It should work tho o.o __________________ AMD Radeon X1950~HD4000 Support Clubhouse “Mac: "Woah, what are you doing?" Mac says as he levitates in the air. PC: "Playing Half-Life 2, this is my gravity gun." Mac: "Well I can sort of do that." PC: "Technically Mac, you have to become me first."” -From_Nowhere

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Nov 3, 2007, 06:57 PM	#13
strick94u Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,308 (0.51/day) Thanks: 80 Thanked 71 Times in 64 Posts System Specs	Fixed it got an Enermax chakra http://www.enermax.com.tw/admin/pic/...5394227442.jpg need to get rid of a few cases now antec 900 with red fans and a 500 watt antec psu modified thermal take Bach vx 500watt enermax liberty and a pile of crap CM stacker 830 pos edition __________________ http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5404335

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patton45 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 160 (0.07/day) Thanks: 24 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts System Specs	sounds like the switch do you have a mobo like evga or dfi with the power switch on the mobo to run out of case? if you do use that to try and power on in the case i bet its the front panel from what my similar experiences have been. also how much do you want to sell your antec 900 for? i know its off topic __________________ I always have threee computers or more second gameing rig abit fata1ty an8 sli amd x2 4200+ @ 2.88 on air this mobo oc's the crap of of any proc! 4 x 512 mb ddr 400 2-3-2-5 1t two xfx 7900 gtx 690 mhz xxx edition Dfi lanparty ut nforce 3 250 gb amd64 3200+ @2.7ghz 1.5gb geil 3-2-3-5 1t ati agp x1950xt 648/700 Last edited by patton45; Nov 4, 2007 at 08:17 AM.

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