quad-core barcelona performance numbers

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by kyosen FROM XS

Finally I've received s7e9h3n's Barcelona - Opteron 2350(B1) this morning

The images is partially masked as these are not mine, just borrowed.


This is my system, ASUS KFSN4-DRE.
I've just tried with 1 CPU
...this CPU cooler is too wider a bit, two of same coolers can't fit this board at the same time...


This is BIOS screen shot.
Split Power Plane(now it's called DDPM: Dual Dynamic Power Management) is supported
on this board, KFSN4-DRE...it looks working fine with north-bridge clock at 1.8GHz.


I tried SuperPI 1M with 1 and 2 memory modules.
39.750s in 1 module operation,
38.968s in 2 modules operation,
so it looks working dual-channel mode in 2 modules operation.
CPU-Z shows Single for both case...Fracnk can improve it soon, I believe:yepp:
A small window located left side in these screen-shot is FELIX's test program.
Also FELIX is working for proper detection of memory access mode in his MemSet



Now, OC time...very mild though
I could reach 2.4G with default Vcore and normal air-cooling(no assist with air-conditioner).

SuperPI 1M


CineBench10


...stay tuned

full reading=XS

[largon]

Originally Posted by cdawall

full reading=XS

That URL goes to a "Post Reply" -button with quote of the original post.
Here's we go:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=2511722

[magibeg]

I feel somewhat unimpressed with the Barcelona so far, but what doesn't make sense is how much of a gain it gets from a small clock increase :-O

[nflesher87]

that's the first thing I noticed
2.0 ------ 2.4
39s ------ 32s
and that's just stock vcore, who knows, it may be able to go father with stock vcore let alone better cooler and more volts

this is beginning to make me think AMD is going for the same effect C2D gave, not incredibly impressive stock speeds but crazy overclock-ability

[panchoman]

Originally Posted by nflesher87

that's the first thing I noticed
2.0 ------ 2.4
39s ------ 32s
and that's just stock vcore, who knows, it may be able to go father with stock vcore let alone better cooler and more volts

this is beginning to make me think AMD is going for the same effect C2D gave, not incredibly impressive stock speeds but crazy overclock-ability

well i hope amd's going down the ocing road.

[nflesher87]

me freakin too bro...otherwise this isn't looking good for them...

[panchoman]

cause while intel might be more expensive them amd at the same speed, i know the extra cash that intel charges will help me cause i can get juice out of that chip.

[magibeg]

Well have to realize that Intel probably didn't plan on making their chips over clocking friendly, it just turned out that way. As far as over clocking at all sometimes we need to realize that we're only a small niche market and that they should be most concerned about speed at stock speed rather than worry about that 1 in 50th person that is going to oc :P

[DOM]

well its still slower then intel im getting 27.125sec @ 2GHz MEM 750Mhz 5-5-5-15

so im thinking this isnt going to come close but I might be wrong I hope I am as its just like 2-3secs faster then the current AM2's

[cdawall]

this is still barcelona not phenom

Originally Posted by largon

That URL goes to a "Post Reply" -button with quote of the original post.
Here's we go:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=2511722

fixed

[DaMulta]

No 3dmark06

[DrunkenMafia]

That pi time is very similar to a E4500 stock... 2gig..

Like everyone is sayin though, I hope they can oc like the core 2's can. And yes that is a huge decrease in pi time for the small oc... Could be promising

Not long now though... Is anyone planning on getting one of those phenom chips on release day???

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

ona bad day @ 333 x 8 i get 21 secs ...

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by kyosen

FELIX kindly pointed out to me about K10's memory controller
According to AMD's document, BIOS and Kernel　Developer’s Guide,
K10's has 2 DCTs(DCT: Dram ConTroller!?), and it can work different two mode, i.e.,
(1) to behave as a single dual-channel DCT; this is called ganged mode;
(2) to behave as two single-channel DCTs; this is called unganged mode.

My understanding is:
Ganged mode reads or writes with 2 DCTs at the same time.
Unganged mode also can reads with 1 DCT and writes with another 1 DCT at the same time,
if the system requests as so.
Unganged mode is more flexible than ganged mode,
and ganged mode is equal to "conventional" dual channel mode.

Then, I noticed the BIOS setting, "Unganged Mode support".


So I tried SuperPI 4M in 3 case as below, and results:
with 1 memory module: 3m27.141s
with 2 memory modules, ganged mode: 3m24.438s
with 2 memory modules, unganged mode: 3m22.953s
and we can see CPU-Z and FELIX's test program properly detects
"conventional" dual channel mode:up:
Default BIOS setting is "Unganged Mode = Enabled", and at least,
unganged mode looks faster than ganged mode for SuperPI.




And these are latecy test results with Everest Ultimate v4.20:
at 2.0G=200x10: 76.0ns
at 2.2G=220x10: 69.0ns
at 2.4G=240x10: 63.4ns
The latest Everest detects Barcelona properly




Thanks to everyone for many comments and suggestions
...but don't be bullying poor small AMD, hipro5 (yeah, just kidding )

some more numbers for you

[b1lk1]

PI is meaningless for anything in real world useage. AMD has always suffered in PI while still maintaining the ability to do many other things very well. There are much more useful benchmarks to go by than PI........

[panchoman]

can we get a mark bench? (aqua,3d,etc.)

[cdawall]

and drumroll please!!! 3dmark06!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by kyosen

I could get 8800GT yesterday

...yes, I can't do 2 CPU operation with long PCIe board

I used 169.01 driver with inf file modified...it looks a bit faster than 167.26.
I tried 2.0G, 2.2G, 2.4G...and in 2.4G case, I tried 3core(1core disabled) and
2core(2core disabled) as emulation of Toliman and Kuma
I also tried on P5K3-D/Kentsfield with mild memory setting...

Results...screenshots are located on my BBS:
http://www.oohashi.jp/c-board/c-boar...ne;no=5231;id=

CPU clock: 3DMark Score / CPU Score

K10(BA) 2.0G=222x9: 9482 / 2999
K10(B1) 2.0G=200x10: 9353 / 2979
K10(B1) 2.2G=220x10: 10148 / 3267
K10(B1) 2.4G=240x10: 10796 / 3560
K10(B1, 3core) 2.4G=240x10: 10420 / 2830
K10(B1, 2core) 2.4G=240x10; 9423 / 1888

Kentsfield 2.4G=267x9: 11901 / 3845
Kentsfield 3.0G=334x9: 12965 / 4792

Quick conclusion from above:
*K10(BA) looks a bit faster than K10(B1), though multiplier aren't same.
*K10 score seems about 10% lower than Kentsfield at same clock.

So, K10 needs more clock!!!

I'll try CineBench10 in next time...
...now very sleeply...it's early morning here in Japan

[panchoman]

10% less then kentsfield? ouchy, hope the phenoms aren't like that..

Those Pi times make sense, they're both proportional to each other.

[Tatty_One]

Originally Posted by panchoman

10% less then kentsfield? ouchy, hope the phenoms aren't like that..

Well if they are they are in trouble with Penryn around the corner!! Damn my old S939 4000+ was almost as fast as that best Barcelona run in SuperPI

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

Well if they are they are in trouble with Penryn around the corner!! Damn my old S939 4000+ was almost as fast as that best Barcelona run in SuperPI

the 22s run was done at stock speeds? i doubt you 4000+ came close to that

[DOM]

Originally Posted by cdawall

the 22s run was done at stock speeds? i doubt you 4000+ came close to that

dont you mean the 39.750s 1M or the 3m 22.953s 4M cuz even a C2D at 2 GHz gets almost 1m less in the 4M run

[cdawall]

lol yea i missed the 3

[DOM]

Originally Posted by cdawall

lol yea i missed the 3

lol I did to at first when you posted it

but I just hope the desk top cpus do better

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

lol I did to at first when you posted it

but I just hope the desk top cpus do better

lol yea or at least the oc like crazy