New Jersey Man Gets Two Years Jail for AOL Spam e-mails

malware · Nov 3, 2007, 09:18 AM

A New Jersey man was sentenced to more than two years in prison on Friday for helping send "spam" e-mails to more than 1.2 million America Online subscribers. Todd Moeller, 28, was sentenced 27 months in prison in a federal court in New York after he was caught making a deal with a government informant to send junk e-mails -- known as spam -- advertising a computer security program in return for 50 percent of the profits, the U.S. Attorney's Office in Manhattan said. Moeller told the informant via instant messaging he could conceal the source of the e-mails through his access to 40 different servers and had profited $40,000 a month from other spam e-mail scams that promoted stocks, prosecutors said.

Source: Reuters

malware · Nov 3, 2007, 09:19 AM

If there's something I really hate, that's spam for sure!! He deserves this...even more.

ex_reven · Nov 3, 2007, 09:25 AM

I wish he got fined too.
$40K a month is a shiteload of cash.

Airbrushkid · Nov 3, 2007, 11:05 AM

He got off to easy. Should die!

Ben Clarke · Nov 3, 2007, 11:07 AM

Wanting him to die is a little over the top...

newconroer · Nov 3, 2007, 11:10 AM

I understand a prostitution sting... but a spam sting? lol that's precious.

tigger · Nov 3, 2007, 11:53 AM

They should have confiscated all his cash too.He deservered his 2 years.

Airbrushkid · Nov 3, 2007, 01:14 PM

Sorry but all spammers should die. Or put them in jail and every member of there famlies in jail and take everything they own!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Clarke

Wanting him to die is a little over the top...

Kreij · Nov 3, 2007, 01:22 PM

While I do not like spam or spammers, it is a hypocritical of the US to jail them.
The only difference between e-mail and snail-mail spam is that when you get snail-mail spam the government gets a piece of the action in the form of postage costs.
I think that if they wanted to be fair about it they should fine the e-mail spammers the current postage rate times the number of e-mail spam letters they estimate he sent.

So, current bulk postage is about a quater I think, so $0.25 x a jillion.
I think paying a quarter jillion dollars would slow down the spam a bit

Airbrushkid · Nov 3, 2007, 02:01 PM

I don't get junk mail. I went to my local post office and arrange not to get any. It wasn't really hard. When I showed up with boxes and boxes of junk mail from one year and left it with them. Never got it again. You should have the choice to receive it or not to.

It should be set up like the no call list.

belpois · Nov 3, 2007, 04:02 PM

Man do I hate spam!
He deserves it, really

WarEagleAU · Nov 3, 2007, 04:07 PM

Good riddance.

Also, that no call list, that doesnt work. Even if you are on it, some dumb ass company always calls you.

Airbrushkid · Nov 3, 2007, 08:42 PM

I never got a call after I signed up on the no call list. But that expired. Theres a new one coming out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarEagleAU

Good riddance.

Also, that no call list, that doesnt work. Even if you are on it, some dumb ass company always calls you.

Completely Bonkers · Nov 3, 2007, 09:08 PM

Bring back the stocks.

Or virtual duck-shoot of this guy!

(Actually, there's an idea... perhaps the *next* hitman could go after a few computer undesireables, like RIAA reps and spammers etc. LOL j/k)

b1lk1 · Nov 3, 2007, 11:20 PM

Don't kill them, just chop off their hands.........

Chewy · Nov 3, 2007, 11:25 PM

They really should of taken all his assets just like they do to drug dealers.. this guys no better really, he knew what he was doing.. stealing peoples earned $$$.

He'lll prob be out in 6-8 months maybe less on good behavior and have all that money he stole waiting for him.

Not sure how the corrections services work down there in the states though... here you get 2 years.. you can get out alot earlier.

ex_reven · Nov 4, 2007, 05:55 AM

Yeah I just thought about it.
Why is he still allowed to use a computer.

I know of hackers who have been banned from using computers for like 5-10 years for their activities, why is this any different?

NympH · Nov 4, 2007, 11:14 AM

I vote for death row!

Casheti · Nov 4, 2007, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airbrushkid

He got off to easy. Should die!

Lol!

Personally I can't blame the guy for wanting in on it, I would have too...

Pandaz3 · Nov 4, 2007, 12:40 PM

Well at least it is a US Federal sentence, so he will likely serve most of it. His name will pop up readily on any future criminal background check. (Doesn't always happen with State convictions) but I think it should have been twice as long and a big fine and cut off from computers for the time he is in prison and ten years after release. I think that would fit the crime better.

I have had good luck with the 'no call list' by the way except for those 'Charitable" and political calls and research surveys.

Darkrealms · Nov 5, 2007, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1lk1

Don't kill them, just chop off their hands.........

ROFL! That was great! I had to explain myself to the rest of the office.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandaz3

Well at least it is a US Federal sentence, so he will likely serve most of it. His name will pop up readily on any future criminal background check. (Doesn't always happen with State convictions) but I think it should have been twice as long and a big fine and cut off from computers for the time he is in prison and ten years after release. I think that would fit the crime better.

I have had good luck with the 'no call list' by the way except for those 'Charitable" and political calls and research surveys.

Call list worked good for me, also had good luck with the no snail mail list I was on too till it expired.
Isn't there a number you can call if a company violates the list?

hacker111 · Nov 6, 2007, 05:03 PM

What an IDIOT....

Solaris17 · Nov 6, 2007, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Completely Bonkers

(Actually, there's an idea... perhaps the *next* hitman could go after a few computer undesireables, like RIAA reps and spammers etc. LOL j/k)

i have recenty come to the conclusion that the only reason the riaa is so against piracy is because they can afford all these programs and music with their rediculous govt salery shove them in a grocery store working 9-5 @ 8 $/hr format their computer than see what happens

Pandaz3 · Nov 7, 2007, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solaris17

i have recently come to the conclusion that the only reason the riaa is so against piracy is because they can afford all these programs and music with their ridiculous govt salary shove them in a grocery store working 9-5 @ 8 $/hr format their computer than see what happens

RIAA is not a government organization and none are government employees, they have not been trained to be Horse's Hind-ends, they had to be home schooled to be Horse's Katoots. They are spasmodically ridiculous and lack the smooth steady dimwittedness of the government.

And RIAA has not been accused of Spamming, they are in a different league.

Nov 3, 2007, 09:18 AM	#1
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ex_reven Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,413 (1.38/day) Thanks: 117 Thanked 181 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	I wish he got fined too. $40K a month is a shiteload of cash.

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Nov 3, 2007, 11:10 AM	#6
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Nov 3, 2007, 02:01 PM	#10
Airbrushkid Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 158 (0.07/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	I don't get junk mail. I went to my local post office and arrange not to get any. It wasn't really hard. When I showed up with boxes and boxes of junk mail from one year and left it with them. Never got it again. You should have the choice to receive it or not to. It should be set up like the no call list. __________________ Intel Q9550 l eVGA NForce 780i SLI FTW l Corsair Dominator 8 gig PC2-8500 l 2 Palit GTX 560 Ti 2 GB SLI l 2 - Intel X-25M 80 gb SSD Raid 0 l WD 1 -2TB & 2 -1TB l On board sound l Antec TruePower Quattro TPQ-1200 1200W l Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit l 3 X Dell E248WFP 24" Monitors

Nov 3, 2007, 04:02 PM	#11
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Nov 3, 2007, 09:08 PM	#14
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Chewy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 2,616 (1.03/day) Thanks: 325 Thanked 151 Times in 140 Posts System Specs	They really should of taken all his assets just like they do to drug dealers.. this guys no better really, he knew what he was doing.. stealing peoples earned $$$. He'lll prob be out in 6-8 months maybe less on good behavior and have all that money he stole waiting for him. Not sure how the corrections services work down there in the states though... here you get 2 years.. you can get out alot earlier. __________________ BUGABUGABUGABUGAAAAA! From_Nowhere's perspective on Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Gates Promoting Windows Vista. “Mac: "Woah, what are you doing?" Mac says as he levitates in the air. PC: "Playing Half-Life 2, this is my gravity gun." Mac: "Well I can sort of do that." PC: "Technically Mac, you have to become me first."” -From_Nowhere

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Nov 4, 2007, 05:55 AM	#17
ex_reven Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,413 (1.38/day) Thanks: 117 Thanked 181 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	Yeah I just thought about it. Why is he still allowed to use a computer. I know of hackers who have been banned from using computers for like 5-10 years for their activities, why is this any different?

Nov 4, 2007, 11:14 AM	#18
NympH Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 38 (0.02/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I vote for death row!

Nov 4, 2007, 12:40 PM	#20
Pandaz3 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornelius, Oregon, US Posts: 216 (0.09/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts System Specs	Well at least it is a US Federal sentence, so he will likely serve most of it. His name will pop up readily on any future criminal background check. (Doesn't always happen with State convictions) but I think it should have been twice as long and a big fine and cut off from computers for the time he is in prison and ten years after release. I think that would fit the crime better. I have had good luck with the 'no call list' by the way except for those 'Charitable" and political calls and research surveys. __________________ GPU's, 3870, 5770, 7970 and a pot load of older cards. CPUs, 1 6400+, FX 4170, FX 8350 and more older ones. Mainboards, ABIT, ASRock, Asus, DFI, EPoX, Gigabyte, MSI.

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