Some Maxtor Personal Storage 3200s Shipped With Virus

[malware]

Seagate is advising those who have purchased a Maxtor Basics Personal Storage 3200 hard drive since August 2007 to check them, if they haven't already, for viruses. Some 3200 drives may have came preloaded with a Virus.Win32.AutoRun.ah virus right out of the box. The malicious code is searching for passwords to online games (World of Warcraft included) and sends them back to a server located in China. It can also disable virus detection software. In order to determine whether your drive is preloaded with this virus, feel free to phone Seagate with the serial number in hand, or update your anti-virus software with the latest definitions.

Source: Engadget

[mrw1986]

Just wow...

[N-Gen]

Sick o.O

[Basard]

I barely even believe it. Does china hate us that much? Maybe somebody is trying to tell us to "buy American." weird....

[N-Gen]

The server is in china. This doesn't mean the chinese are doing it...maybe the americans are...whoever it is...it's bad...

[Woah Mama!]

Another good reason to buy Western Digital!

[N-Gen]

Most my drives are Western Digital and I simply love them. None for my notebook though.

[Grimskull]

thats very strange indeed! Wonder who put it there because it would have to have come from the factory...before packaging...

[freaksavior]

wow.....thats all i can say.


ok maybe not. thats sad they would do this, even by accident, its sad. Such a big company should know better.

[WhiteLotus]

how did they pull that one off? they would have to have taken the hard drives home installed the virus taken them back and then packaged them! unless someone made the computers write the virus straight to the disks in production. how ever it happened this is a major security threat to the company!

[WarEagleAU]

See what happens when you go to a country to produce cheaper hard drives to make more profit for yourself? You lose top notch QA inspectors, less rigid testing, parameters, building specs, etc. Then you have a problem like this

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by Basard

I barely even believe it. Does china hate us that much? Maybe somebody is trying to tell us to "buy American." weird....

well lets you see americans build a hard drive. its all good there being american based companies but what technology isnt made in asia these days??

I bought a new Peavy guitar amp the other day. its american but it says made in china on the box.

If u want something done right then do it yourself, if not lets see you do better

[Basard]

Yeah, were ALL morons in America. We couldn't possibly build a hard-drive factory if we wanted to. We just send it overseas and pay people half, if now a tenth as much to make it for us, kinda assholish if you ask me.

So your guitar was made in china? But it has an American name.... what exactly is your point?

Yeah, I did do better, I bought a hard drive without a virus on it.

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by Basard

Yeah, were ALL morons in America. We couldn't possibly build a hard-drive factory if we wanted to. We just send it overseas and pay people half, if now a tenth as much to make it for us, kinda assholish if you ask me.

So your guitar was made in china? But it has an American name.... what exactly is your point?

Yeah, I did do better, I bought a hard drive without a virus on it.

Correct, you COULD build a hard drive factory but have you taken into consideration the cost of the building, rent, electric bills, telephone bills, workers salary & also tech research not to mention all of the other bills you have to pay - If you can come up with an 'all American' hard drive & sell it for less or the same price the chinese do & still make a profit afterwards.


THAT is my point either then taking advantage of the 'CHEAP LABOR' thats available. Bring everything back where its under one roof & not outsourced.


so sorry if i sound 'assholish' but please make sure you FULLY understand my point before insulting me & also my intelligence. I am not deaf, I am not blind, I have limbs & fingers to type out a response If you have difficulty understanding what I am saying.

Please be more diplomatic & refrain from belittling/insulting others in your comments in the near future.

[newconroer]

Man, so that's how the chinese gold sellers do it.. lol at this.

[Basard]

holy crap, where did i say YOU were assholish? i said the idea of exporting our labor is.

refrain from belittling/insulting? isnt that pretty much what you did to me (either me or america in general) before i quoted you? yeah, good job turning it around on me...

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by Basard

holy crap, where did i say YOU were assholish? i said the idea of exporting our labor is.

refrain from belittling/insulting? isnt that pretty much what you did to me (either me or america in general) before i quoted you? yeah, good job turning it around on me...

well its not like America has technology coming out of its ears is it?? I never insinuated anything against you or America - all I was saying or what I was trying to say was that America wasnt as technologically advanced.

your the one who said & I quote "Yeah, were ALL morons in America. We couldn't possibly build a hard-drive factory if we wanted to"

so what am i saying other then the fact that your country is technologically incapable of being so technologically advanced on a grand scale such as the Chinese who run their economies & their lively hoods day in day out off it.


Do you see my point now?

If you think America is so good then lets see it step up to china's level

[newconroer]

Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

If you say America is so good then lets see it step up to china's level

In regards to what? Dishing out generic computing technology and hardware?

I don't think the technology in the 117 stealth bomber has 'made in taiwan' stickers on it... and the Chinese would never come close to building a plane like that.

So... bit of a vague point.

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by newconroer

In regards to what? Dishing out generic computing technology and hardware?

I don't think the technology in the 117 stealth bomber has 'made in taiwan' stickers on it... and the Chinese would never come close to building a plane like that.

So... bit of a vague point.

the Americans designed the plane but most of the internal computer & electrical components are China etc made

& in reply to your comment that we would never come close to building a plane like that?

Please keep your patriotism to yourself & your own spare time. if the chinese really wanted to put something together they could do it a lot faster & cost effective as well as making it even more effective to surpass all current models - its history, take a look at the mig. thats Russian but the chinese/Japanese took it & made it 20times better.

but hell if it makes you feel better then you can have an 'empty' 117 stealth bomber chassis anytime to stare at till it rusts

[Basard]

Step up to china's level.... who would want to step up to chinas level? If you can even call it a step up.

We pretty much do have technology coming out of our ears by the way. Not so much like JAPAN though. And china.... Most people there live in the mountains and their houses are mad out of sticks and dirt.

As for my comment: "Yeah, were ALL morons in America. We couldn't possibly build a hard-drive factory if we wanted to" That's sarcasm.....

[Polaris573]

Get this thread back on track please. The next person to continue this argument gets an infraction.

[newconroer]

EDIT: While reminding our good gentlemanly friend here about the specifications of the 117 and similar technology would be advantageous in bringing his strategic aircraft knowledge up to par... it's not quite worth helping to perpetuate the downward spiral of this thread so..back to the topic :

This gets scarier the more I think about it. Don't they test for this stuff before it leaves the factory? And how is it that a blank harddisk can hold virii?

[Basard]

Yeah.... anyways my whole point to begin with was that we (the US) keep getting JUNK from china. We have either lead or hazardous chemicals in the toys our kids play with. Now we are getting viruses in our hard drives. It's all coming from china. Now, just because I say it comes from china doesn't mean its chinas fault. There could be some "American terrorists," if you can call it that, over there doing these things so we hate China. I don't know, either that or its China that is pissed off because we don't pay their people enough. There has to be some kind of reason behind it, people don't just do things for no reason. If you're not in America, then you probably don't get the news. I read this in the newspaper a couple weeks ago: just in my state alone, 39,000 KIDS on welfare (only the ones one welfare are kept on records for this statistic,) tested positive for dangerously high levels of lead. That's just the kids on welfare. Thats a lot of kids, especially if they only keep records of the welfare babies, and I live in wisconsin, so our state population is probably somewhere around 1 million people.

Oh yeah, then there was the tainted pet food that came from china not too long ago, thousands of pets died. Like 20 different brands of pet food got recalled. ALL came from china.

Either we need to hold higher standards for product testing (if we even have any)from our overseas labor, or just do it ourselves, and pay a little bit more, it's not like we don't have the money. The poorest people here in America live like kings compared to a lot of people in china.

[tigger]

A few years ago i mite have agreed that stuff from china was junk,but not any more.I have a friend in china and she showed me some pics,the area she lives looks like its bigger than my country and its full of electronic companies.China is one of the fastest growing and richest econemies in the world now.

Every companie you can think of now probs has stuff made in china,would these companies use chinese manufacturing if the quality was'nt upto standard? no.

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by newconroer

EDIT: While reminding our good gentlemanly friend here about the specifications of the 117 and similar technology would be advantageous in bringing his strategic aircraft knowledge up to par... it's not quite worth helping to perpetuate the downward spiral of this thread so..back to the topic :

This gets scarier the more I think about it. Don't they test for this stuff before it leaves the factory? And how is it that a blank harddisk can hold virii?

thanQ for your concern but we are talking about hard drives. every day items not fighter/bombber aircraft, unless you class war as an everyday thing then thats an exception


anyway. any mod/admin out there ive said my peace. lets carry on with more hard drive banter