Hand it to them overclockers

[Ketxxx]

See thread link HERE This is to let abit know how utterly pathetic it is to market a mobo as an OCers board, and not give the options in the BIOS to back it up. You don't even have to be an abit owner, but simply someone who agrees or someone who has had an abit but switched to a different camp because their OCers board didnt match the user it was aiming at. Maul them OCers.

[sneekypeet]

I am glad to see where this tread has gone so far, but I am a little put off by the mods attitudes of "go somewhere else then". Seems they should be on your side ,or a bit more welcoming to bios ideas.

That thread leads me to a question tho as I was reading it again. I seen there was a post stating the MAX has an IDE issue.....Can you give me a idea on this, as my DVD RW is experiencing wierd issues, like the inability to read discs and whatnot?

[Fuse-Wire]

i laugh at these boards "designed for OCers" lol i have better and more fun results when OCin normal run of the mill boards, these OC boards are too expensive and as Ketxxx has mentioned there is usually not much to help with OCin, mean i want a board that can have AGP bumped up "my old K7 said it had AGP 8x, tried it and the damn thing died" my current board is rubbish so my "new" s370 (got it out a skip) should have volt modding with extra options in the bios, cheap cheerfull good to learn OCin with and much better than "specialised boards"

[Ketxxx]

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

I am glad to see where this tread has gone so far, but I am a little put off by the mods attitudes of "go somewhere else then". Seems they should be on your side ,or a bit more welcoming to bios ideas.

That thread leads me to a question tho as I was reading it again. I seen there was a post stating the MAX has an IDE issue.....Can you give me a idea on this, as my DVD RW is experiencing wierd issues, like the inability to read discs and whatnot?

The IDE issue is memtest related, if you run the DOS version of memtest, on reboot your IDE drives will vanish from the BIOS, odd, I know

THe problem with some of the mods on the abit forums is their fanboys, so even constructive ideas or critisicms arent generally welcomed, but as longs you can solidly back it up like gotwood your safe. That thread has existed for only a few days and its already at page 5 with 770+ views, abit would be fools to ignore it.

[sneekypeet]

Thanks for the explination...leads me more to the belief that my DVD rW is toast. I have noticed its popularity as well.....lets just hope for some better results!!!!!

[Ketxxx]

For better results I found a contact for people to send their BIOS requests to; http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/en/contact/feedback.php the more mails abit get about adding advanced memory timings to the AW9D Max the more they will do something about it. The same goes for any other mobo anyone may have from abit.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

just sent off a nice email to abit.

[Sasqui]

Damn - Abit on average is good, but sometime hit-or-miss (miss in this case). I wonder if a new bios will be able to solve the PCI bus control, sometimes it's hard-wired into the design of the board. I find it way hard to beleive the AWD9 doesn't have that option, that sucks.

[Ketxxx]

Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

just sent off a nice email to abit.

Out of curiosity, what did it say?

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

nothing too rude yet.

some questions and some comments/suggestions.

most annoying being my hard drives occasionally vanish from my hard drive preference menu.

requesting more memory dividers, and other memory options.

also curious as to if my board supports 45 nm quads and pci express 2.0 cards.

[Ketxxx]

Your AB9Pro should support PCIE 2 cards, i doubt it will support 45nm CPUs without a BIOS update though, it may not be possible at all depending on what chipset the board has. I dont know much about the AB9Pro, but I do know its BIOS is riddled with bugs, I hope they sort it out for ya.

[KennyT772]

Good to know shit like this. DFI FTW!

[Ketxxx]

DFI arent so great either, their nF4 boards were a nightmare, I had 2 SLI-D boards, and on top of issues such as spiking Vdimm when the board first booted and coldboots (which 99% of DFI nF4 boards suffered with), the damn things killed two sets of my TCCD, and didnt even like BH5 that much.

[Jizzler]

Heh... I liked my DFI NF4 Ultra-D and have an AW9D-Max currently.

Though while I overclock, I don't get into the nitty-gritty details that let me squeeze out every last drop of performance. But I might send off an email for you guys

[KennyT772]

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

DFI arent so great either, their nF4 boards were a nightmare, I had 2 SLI-D boards, and on top of issues such as spiking Vdimm when the board first booted and coldboots (which 99% of DFI nF4 boards suffered with), the damn things killed two sets of my TCCD, and didnt even like BH5 that much.

The DFI I have will spike to the maximum you have set the board at on that given cmos, so 2.9v for me. I've had nothing but good luck with mine anyway.

[Ketxxx]

I'll copy and paste what gotwood said in his last post, which I couldnt agree more with its very true.

"I'm not contesting the board doesnt have ability, it does. BUT, those advanced memory timings would be greatly useful for many people for a multitude of reasons, including the well known fact abit boards are extremely picky about RAM. At the very least adding advanced memory timings would allow users help "tune in" memory to the board that otherwise wont run properly. Giving the consumer faith in abit as they know they dont have the added hassle of having to buy more memory, they can attempt to manually tune in the modules. Also having advanced memory timings would greatly help the user with memory modules that needed a little extra coaxing, relaxing sub-timings a little can lead to extremely marginal performance loss at the same DRAM clockspeed, but gain 20-30MHz or more on maximum DRAM frequency.

I'll also disagree that the 1333 boot strap doesnt help the board, with my E4400 on a PSB800 it wont clock past 3.1GHz, on a PSB1066 it wont go past 3.4GHz, and finally on a PSB1333 not past 3.78GHz, see a pattern there?"

[Ketxxx]

Originally Posted by KennyT772

The DFI I have will spike to the maximum you have set the board at on that given cmos, so 2.9v for me. I've had nothing but good luck with mine anyway.

Neither of my SLi-D boards did that, Vdimm just spiked to maximum slectable voltage on bootup, which is what killed my TCCD, and probably what damaged my BH5 as I had to use the jumper on the board to get access to the higher memory voltages, but it spiked to 4v on bootup.

[imperialreign]

this is one of the reasons I've been so happy with ASUS boards over the last decade, they don't always give you every single option that you would like to have, but their BIOS still has near about twice as many options as other manu. - even on their mid-range boards. On the other hand, though, ASUS release BIOS updates so often it's hard to keep up sometimes, and they don't ever clearly state what differences there are between BIOS versions.


Anyhow, I see the point on that ABit board - it's a shame, I think.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

Your AB9Pro should support PCIE 2 cards, i doubt it will support 45nm CPUs without a BIOS update though, it may not be possible at all depending on what chipset the board has. I dont know much about the AB9Pro, but I do know its BIOS is riddled with bugs, I hope they sort it out for ya.

i have a p965 chipset.

they cant even get the spelling right in the damn bios.

[MadCow]

That's too bad, I loved my KN8 SLI. All the OCing options I could want, and really stable and cheap. Shouldn't have traded it for an A8R-MVP.

[Steevo]

I am loving my Gigabyte 965 board, stable, cool and easy OC. Better than the earlier boards they made and better than my MSI.

[TUngsten]

I went from a MSI 865pe to my current ASUS 975 board, and I really have loved it. The MSI was ok, but the ASUS bios is so much more comprehensive.

My 3 top picks a year ago when I last upgraded were the gigabyte 965P-DS, the Asus p5w dh, and the Abit AW9D Max. Glad I got a deal on the Asus board!

[Ketxxx]

The AW9D Max isnt bad by any meaning of the word, its just lacking some memory sub-timing options. If the board had those it would be handing it to a good chunk of the newer boards still.

[3991vhtes]

Abit AN7. Best overclocker AFAIK.

[Ketxxx]

The AN7 was the "new" NF7-S v2, I owned one, and it rocked. In all honesty a decent nf2 system now even gives new systems a run for their money, especially considering socket A stuff can be picked up for peanuts. Gotwood made another post in that link, hes a cleva fella, making some very good points