0.27 Beta 3

[Alp]

But the "ATITool64.sys" is in "C:\Windows\System32\drivers" Folder?
Interestingly it's not in SysWOW64\drivers, at least at mine.

Btw, the beta 3/4 (call it like you want ) is signed now, so u shouldn't need to disable the driver signing enforcement.

[Alp]

Originally Posted by stoney

(...)
Old devices: could not remove (E0000235)
New device: could not create (E0000235)
Installing driver from: C:\Users\Me\AppData\Local\Temp\ATITool.inf
New device driver: could not install (00000005)
New device: could not start (00000005)
(...)

I had those lines too at setup. But after rebooting the device was there and worked, so I didn't bother.

[stoney]

It's working now. I had to disable encryption on my Temp directory to get it to install properly.

[stoney]

Well, now that I've gotten it installed properly, it's not really working. Clicking 'Show 3D View' shows the cube for a fraction of a second while reporting a ridiculously high FPS (~40000) then the window goes white. This is without changing clock speed.

A search hasn't turned up much. One guy had this problem, but he had seemingly clocked his memory too high. Since I haven't changed anything it probably doesn't apply.

I tried lowering my clock speed a bit resulting in a blank screen and system hang.

The log doesn't show any problems.

I'm not sure where to go from here. I'm still searching for a solution, but any hints would be appreciated.

[Alp]

So is only the 3D-View not working but the rest, or is it more?

What you can/should try ist the following, it's giving magical cure sometimes (at least on x1950XT, your 1650 should be the same family)

Originally Posted by Alp

You got two options to check out:

-change setting for "driver level overclocking" (x1000 overclocking tab)
or/and
-try replacing ATITool.exe with the beta 1 from post 140 (page 6) in this thread (leave b3/4 installed).

[stoney]

Neither driver level overclocking nor the beta1 executable resolved the issue.

So is only the 3D-View not working but the rest, or is it more?

Works:
GUI works fine.
Card seems to be detected properly.

Doesn't work:
3D View (and obviously anything which uses it).
Changing clock speed causes system hang.

[Alp]

Then I'm pretty sure it's something with the Graphics driver. If you got much time you can try using another driver (newer of course, but maybe even older version, just to check if it changes anything).
Were you able to overclock the card earlier, not that it's locked in the Bios of the Card or something?

[pirlouy]

I have tried this beta 3 (since version 0.26 can't launch) in order to reduce fan speed and noise of my Gigabyte HD3850 (GV-RX385512H) but I have not succeed...
Even if I change the percentage in "fan control", speed stays at maximum.

Here is the log which can explain this boring behavior:

2008-02-03 19:24:32	D Successfully connected to driver, version 150
2008-02-03 19:24:32	D Found ATI device: 0x1002 0x0000 bus 1 dev 0
2008-02-03 19:24:32	D   GPU model: RV670 Pro
2008-02-03 19:24:32	D   fbPhy: 0xE0000000, mmrPhy: 0xF5000000.
2008-02-03 19:24:32	D   mmapped mmr to 0xE50000
2008-02-03 19:24:32	D  RV6xx internal temp chip detection: success
2008-02-03 19:24:32	D Device initialized successfully
2008-02-03 19:24:32	D Could not read driver's clock table: 2

[Baum]

Atitool installed (beta from post #1) on:
Laptop, core2duo,
Vista Basic N 32 Bit
Go7600 256MB 128BIT
driver comes from Laptopvideo2go.(169.28)


Ati Tool Works for GPU only, memory always resets it's clock:


Before "setting the clock", (already put in the values by hand, but to slider is no differrence)

After setting Core goes down, memory stays! (current value)


Don't know if it's a driver issue but found that:

3D Box runs fine but clock doesnt go up as in default profile.

Thank you for your effort and time, ati tool is great. (For Battery Saving too ;-)

[Alp]

So this is what ATITool looks like on a Notebook, heh
I'm wonderering why we Desktop Users can't set our 2D/3D Clocks independantly with that comfort!?!

Let me answer your non-questions with counter questions

Originally Posted by Baum

Ati Tool Works for GPU only, memory always resets it's clock:
(...)
After setting Core goes down, memory stays! (current value)

Maybe you reached the minimum the driver allows for mem?

Originally Posted by Baum

Before "setting the clock", (already put in the values by hand, but to slider is no differrence)

Why should it? Doesn't do that at mine too, either slider or type in, after pressing "Set Clock" it syncs sliders to numbers.

Originally Posted by Baum

Don't know if it's a driver issue but found that:
3D Box runs fine but clock doesnt go up as in default profile.

That's normal I think, the 3D-View doesn't switch GPU to 3D-Mode as it seems. Try running a game or something to get it into 3D-Mode and Alt-Tab back.

[Baum]

@Alp
I meant look at the picture RAm is at 200Mhz an on click (and previous type in of 135) the slider JUMPS back to 200Mhz.
I've done that prior to ATI tool with rivatuner and it worked (driver ins't limiting anything that's the bad side with downclock system hangs if i go too low)

just tried ati tool als downclock doesn't hurt hardware and it's just more comfort with ATI Tray tool no other tool (NHC either) is that nice

i thought that nvidia is supported too and why not (Gpu is just castrtd. from desktop core is the same.

So bug or not that the Question? or my foolery

PS:
May be vista is more 3d then Xp that's why it's alwaysrunning in "low 3d"
and Nvidias Powermizer support isn't that ready, runs and can be monitored by some nvidia tool but is far away from user control.

[Alp]

Ah, ok.
Must be a bug in Atitool then. Nvidia support in Atitool is definetly there, but not as developed as for ATI GPUs yet. F.ex. I can only Temp monitor my 8800GT yet, nothing else
Surely the permanent low 3D has to do with Vista's Aero thingy.
One more thing, was it the same clock (low3d-mode) u could go lower on with Rivatuner, maybe retry it now, then u can say for sure that's it's Atitool?

P.S. I like ATItool most of all, too. But the longer I can't use it, the more I start liking Rivatuner. Today I found out u can change clock-speed dependant on GPU temperature and some other cool things.

[Baum]

on vista basic it should be possible to obtain 2d state. (all effects are off, just to safe some energy )
won't go dualboot to much hassle wich xp and vist.

i am currently testing rivatuner.

do work ;-( clock change: only for 3d mode @ all)

"Added ForceWare 167.xx and 169.xx drivers families support. Please take a note that 2D/3D performance levels switching is broken in currently broken in these drivers, so adjusting 2D performance level settings (e.g. 2D clocks) via RivaTuner will also change 3D performance level settings and vice versa." (http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner&menu=8)

Driver Problem arg!?!

-> stay with ati tool, and wait for new driver from nvidia

[Tontoman]

Baum, you can always do the lazy mans dual boot.

Two hard drives, one with XP, one with Vista. Just swap the drive boot order around depending on what OS you want to run. No dual boot hassles and makes for easy backups.



T.

[kureng]

this version on vista still quite buggy.. with HIS HD3870 ICEQ3 (catalyst 8.1)

Environment temp actually shows GPU Load Percentage... the temp would not exceed 100,and it show exactly the same value of GPU load at CCC Overdrive menu, i can conclude it is the GPU load...

Fan control still not working properly, only forcing the fan 100% will worked. fan speed based on respective temps not working..

plus, file logging is buggy and annoying message windows of "Cannot write to log file" appear after sometimes.. the log file is written properly, just the windows keeps pop up..

[RejZoR]

Now i can't get this thing working even with admin rights. WTF!? ATi Tray Tools works every and each time even without dumb task scheduler hacking but noooo ATiTol still works similar to a pile of crap. Cmon? Fix the damn thing already once and for all

[thegave]

Hey ALP something weird happened.

I modded my bios to be overclocked in 3D mode (if that's what the Default profile in RaBiT means) and stock for the 2D profile. Flashed it. Rebooted. Loaded up ATiTools, which says the Default clocks are the overclocked ones but the actual clocks are stock. I thought about what you said about ATiTool working in 2D mode so I closed it, started a game, and opened ATiTool again and it was still on stock clocks...

Is that an ATiTool problem or RaBiT/bios problem?

[Alp]

I never used RaBiT, just heard of it.

Originally Posted by thegave

I thought about what you said about ATiTool working in 2D mode so I closed it, started a game, and opened ATiTool again and it was still on stock clocks...

Do you mean the stock 3D-Clocks here? Then I'd say the flash didn't succeed?
When you mean ATITool is showing the stock 2D-clocks, then it's just switching back to 2D again. I found out that it doesn't work sometimes with minimizing the game, under some circumstances. I can't remember right now, but I saw a more secure trick somewhere to manually switch card to 3D to be sure what's going on. I'll tell you if I find that again.

Meanwhile try a 3D-game u can put in windowed mode, so u don't have to minimize

[thegave]

It doesn't matter, I flashed the OC'd clocks to both profiles and now ATiTool reports them correctly

I thought the stock 2D and 3D clocks were the same, they are according to RaBiT.

[Alp]

But 2D and 3D clocks shouldn't be the same, 2D should be much lower than 3D normally.

So does it work OK now? Are U confident with that Bios thing, what do you need ATITool for now? I ask because maybe I'll try that too on my Server (but with underclocking).

[BIOHazard87]

Originally Posted by Alp

Doesn't work with 8800GT yet , only Temp monitoring.

lame have to wait till beta 4 I guess

[thegave]

I guess I don't really need ATiTool anymore.. Cos all my clocks are set and I have no need to change them anymore. At least not until the vmod comes.

But I do like ATiTool for artifact scanning, not really sure why. Just always struck me as being reliable... But not all that helpful because it just crashes, without artifacting. And even when Artifact Scan is unstable all games run fine for over an hour... Been experimenting a bit with ATT artifact scanner..

[MadCow]

I don't know if this is a common problem, but overclocking doesn't work at all under Vista X64 with my X1950 PRO. Both the core and mem clocks show 0 and if I raise them and set them it'll just return to 0.

[Alp]

@Madcow
It's kinda common...

Originally Posted by Alp

You got two options to check out:

-change setting for "driver level overclocking" (x1000 overclocking tab)
or/and
-try replacing ATITool.exe with the beta 1 from post 140 (page 6) in this thread (leave b3/4 installed).

I had best results on x1950XT with "driver level overclocking" enabled, but u can't change 2D clocks then, if u really want to.

[RatusNatus]

The "beta 4" and the Beta 3 are the very same file...so, lets say Beta 3 right now.