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Old Dec 6, 2007, 02:46 PM   #126
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I think (hope) it's no problem if I upload it
It's only the exe from beta 2.

And don't forget telling if it works, would be of interest here ^^
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Old Dec 6, 2007, 03:02 PM   #127
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i tried your file with beta 4 and with beta 3, i did in the end find beta 2 @ guru3d and used that, all it did was crash ati tool every time.

Funnie thing is....when i run ati beta 4 i can see my clocks and if i change them in ccc they change also in ati tool, so i guess i can still use ati tool to monitor temps and fan speed, apart from that i have no voltages and no clock settings to use with the 3870.I can use ccc to clock with which i will do for now
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Old Dec 6, 2007, 04:14 PM   #128
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hmm, maybe the beta 2 didn't support the 3870? Since mine is older (x1950XT), you gotta wait for beta 5
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Old Dec 6, 2007, 07:37 PM   #129
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no its not supported, please dont download and please dont try it
ur joking right?
works fine for me.
wow when i let it find max core it clocks in 2 seconds 50mhz over!!
TEMRATURE WHAS GOING TO 60 IN 1 MINIT!!
all mostly killed my nvidia geforche7600GS
btw: works fine at x64 vista ultimate
btw: can i turn my grapic card so the core is in the air flow of my cpu cooler?
maybe it keeps cool than
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Old Dec 6, 2007, 08:09 PM   #130
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ur joking right?
works fine for me.
wow when i let it find max core it clocks in 2 seconds 50mhz over!!
TEMRATURE WHAS GOING TO 60 IN 1 MINIT!!
all mostly killed my nvidia geforche7600GS
btw: works fine at x64 vista ultimate
btw: can i turn my grapic card so the core is in the air flow of my cpu cooler?
maybe it keeps cool than
60c is fine for a graphics card. In fact don't worry about the temp untill it starts to top 90c, lol.
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Old Dec 6, 2007, 08:23 PM   #131
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I didn't see independent shader clock adjustment in there... ;(
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Hd 2600xt

>Use Driver Level overclocking (x1000 Overclocking in settings), if that doesn't work, read the post #116

I only have a choice for HD 2000 Overclocking settings, and no choices ther make a difference in how it works.

Version 2 did not work on my 2600 XT either. It DID set the clocks back to the original speeds, instead of what was set in ATI Overclock. The biggest difference was that when I tried to change clock speeds, it took 25% of my CPU(s) for about 5 seconds before reverting back, instead of immediately reverting back to original speeds.

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Old Dec 6, 2007, 10:43 PM   #133
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Profile issues with beta 3

When a profile is selected, either by starting ATI Tool (with profile loading switched on) or by loading it manually afterwards, the voltages are not set according to the profile. They are set to the default values every time. The fan & clock speeds are set properly, however.

The voltages are however, stored correctly in profiles.ini and can be loaded manually from it on the Voltage Control page. Checking/unchecking the "Disable Driver Voltage transitions" option in the overclocking page makes no difference.

Note that with careful tweaking of the clocks, core voltage and temp/fan thresholds, I can have a 2900 Pro that performs like an XT and remains quiet at all times. Who said these cards are loud?

W1zzard: this is my first post here and I'd like to say that you rock for giving us all this awesome utility. Thanks!

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Old Dec 6, 2007, 11:17 PM   #134
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When a profile is selected, either by starting ATI Tool (with profile loading switched on) or by loading it manually afterwards, the voltages are not set according to the profile. They are set to the default values every time. The fan & clock speeds are set properly, however.

The voltages are however, stored correctly in profiles.ini and can be loaded manually from it on the Voltage Control page. Checking/unchecking the "Disable Driver Voltage transitions" option in the overclocking page makes no difference.
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I remember a similar problem i got with 0.26 storing Fan settings into profile.
I played around with the Properties for the profile (uncheck,save,check,save the "This profile stores: "Fan Settings") a couple of times till it correctly restored them on profile load, but I'm sure you tried that...

So I think now my exe switch b3/4->b2 works ONLY for x1950xt or maybe very close "family members" then... I'm glad it helped me.

To summarize my "understandings": with ATITool 0.27 beta X there is no Voltage control possible on x1950XT cards
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I remember a similar problem i got with 0.26 storing Fan settings into profile.
I played around with the Properties for the profile (uncheck,save,check,save the "This profile stores: "Fan Settings") a couple of times till it correctly restored them on profile load, but I'm sure you tried that...

So I think now my exe switch b3/4->b2 works ONLY for x1950xt or maybe very close "family members" then... I'm glad it helped me.

To summarize my "understandings": with ATITool 0.27 beta X there is no Voltage control possible on x1950XT cards
Yeah, I tried the check,save, check thing, but no dice. The correct voltage values are going into the profile, but it just can't read them from it when loading a whole profile.

I also have an X1950XT and I can't set the voltage on that either. It felt odd that and I suspect that was able to adjust the voltage on that card with an earlier ATI Tool, but it was a year ago, so I'm not sure now.
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Old Dec 6, 2007, 11:36 PM   #136
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After I made my post, I saw some references to 0.27 beta 4. I found a download for it here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4109.html

Installed it, but it didn't fix the voltage problem. I don't know why W1zzard doesn't update the forum to reflect the new version, which is over a week old now.

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Ok solved my problem with Voltage Control with downgrading .exe to 0.27 b1 (with 0.27 b4 driver). I Have full control now
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i have news!!

i can have complete control of my clocks in ati tool 0.27b4 when using XP, but not in vista which is kinda weird as i did have clock control in vista with the x1900XT using 0.27b3.
Any chance Alp you could send me your exe or link me to 0.27b1? I have maxed out the core using ccc
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When I run "find max core" it runs through the tests but the frequencies on the sliders & up where it reads Current clocks remain 612 they do not increase over time. Any ideas?

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Old Dec 7, 2007, 02:23 AM   #140
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i have news!!

i can have complete control of my clocks in ati tool 0.27b4 when using XP, but not in vista which is kinda weird as i did have clock control in vista with the x1900XT using 0.27b3.
Any chance Alp you could send me your exe or link me to 0.27b1? I have maxed out the core using ccc
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Alp, your a genius! I now have voltage control with vista64 and X1950XT 256mb sapphire. Been testing and here's what I have so far. I can set voltage and clocks, when I run 3dmark06 the clocks revert to stock 3d settings (621/1800) but the voltage stays the same, when the 3dmark is switching tests it goes back to 2d clocks and volts. Now here's the interesting part, when the new test starts it goes back to stock 3d clocks but goes to new voltages I set (1.450 core instead of 1.40). Any ideas on how to keep the new clocks. I know ultimately once i find my oc I can flash the bios on the card but until then I cannot even test the oc without being able to keep new clocks when 3d starts up.
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Alp, your a genius! I now have voltage control with vista64 and X1950XT 256mb sapphire. Been testing and here's what I have so far. I can set voltage and clocks, when I run 3dmark06 the clocks revert to stock 3d settings (621/1800) but the voltage stays the same, when the 3dmark is switching tests it goes back to 2d clocks and volts. Now here's the interesting part, when the new test starts it goes back to stock 3d clocks but goes to new voltages I set (1.450 core instead of 1.40). Any ideas on how to keep the new clocks. I know ultimately once i find my oc I can flash the bios on the card but until then I cannot even test the oc without being able to keep new clocks when 3d starts up.
Damm this didnt work for me using the 3870 dammblast and damm
not even in XP
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So i guess this works only if u have the "x1000 overlocking" tab. Sorry for you pants_marshall

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Alp, your a genius! I now have voltage control with vista64 and X1950XT 256mb sapphire. Been testing and here's what I have so far. I can set voltage and clocks, when I run 3dmark06 the clocks revert to stock 3d settings (621/1800) but the voltage stays the same, when the 3dmark is switching tests it goes back to 2d clocks and volts. Now here's the interesting part, when the new test starts it goes back to stock 3d clocks but goes to new voltages I set (1.450 core instead of 1.40). Any ideas on how to keep the new clocks. I know ultimately once i find my oc I can flash the bios on the card but until then I cannot even test the oc without being able to keep new clocks when 3d starts up.
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Btw, I have exact same card (and OS).

I had that same thing too first. U gotta set driver-level overclocking on first. Then u launch a 3D-App (f.ex. a Game then minimize) which set's the card to 3D Mode and only then u can play with the clocks / Voltage and save afterwards into a profile while still in 3D mode. Then, if the Profile loads even in 2D mode, it will take over-clocks when switching to 3D but stock on 2D, guess that's the best way overclocking. U don't even need different 2D-3D profiles like this.
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Alp: that beta1 exe didn't work for me. If profile.ini is present, it instantly locks up the machine with a black screen and a flickering pattern. If it's not present, then it just crashes with a standard Windows error message.

I'm sure the problem is caused due to the later dll being incompatible with it.
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So i guess this works only if u have the "x1000 overlocking" tab. Sorry for you pants_marshall



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Btw, I have exact same card (and OS).

I had that same thing too first. U gotta set driver-level overclocking on first. Then u launch a 3D-App (f.ex. a Game then minimize) which set's the card to 3D Mode and only then u can play with the clocks / Voltage and save afterwards into a profile while still in 3D mode. Then, if the Profile loads even in 2D mode, it will take over-clocks when switching to 3D but stock on 2D, guess that's the best way overclocking. U don't even need different 2D-3D profiles like this.
Ok, heres where I'm at, I need to have driver level overclocking unchecked in order to adjust clocks, I adjust clocks and volts then save to a profile. Then re-enable driver level overclocking and my profile loads fine in during all 3dmark06 tests . So I started overclocking, I've reached 722.25/981.00 and here's where I run into a problem, but it's not stability, lol. I use the same process as before and set to 749.25/990.00 and when 3d mark starts for some reason it goes back to 722.25/981.00, even though I saved the new setting to the profile and everything, real odd. Any thoughts?

Edit: After rereading I think I need to be a little more clear. I'm using the monitoring tool from rivatuner to see what my clocks, temps, and volts are while in game or running 3dmark06. I can successfully set clocks to 749/990, but when 3dmark06 starts it goes down to 722/981. WTF? Anybody? WTF? lol

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Alp: that beta1 exe didn't work for me. If profile.ini is present, it instantly locks up the machine with a black screen and a flickering pattern. If it's not present, then it just crashes with a standard Windows error message.

I'm sure the problem is caused due to the later dll being incompatible with it.
That's the same I get when I start ATITool and a profile with overclocks is loaded and driver level oc is off, OR when I start ATITool during in 3D Mode. I think it's because the 2D Voltage is kept in these cases but clocks are set anyway. Interesting how different ATITool reacts by switching exe
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Ok, heres where I'm at, I need to have driver level overclocking unchecked in order to adjust clocks, I adjust clocks and volts then save to a profile. Then re-enable driver level overclocking and my profile loads fine in during all 3dmark06 tests . So I started overclocking, I've reached 722.25/981.00 and here's where I run into a problem, but it's not stability, lol. I use the same process as before and set to 749.25/990.00 and when 3d mark starts for some reason it goes back to 722.25/981.00, even though I saved the new setting to the profile and everything, real odd. Any thoughts?

Edit: After rereading I think I need to be a little more clear. I'm using the monitoring tool from rivatuner to see what my clocks, temps, and volts are while in game or running 3dmark06. I can successfully set clocks to 749/990, but when 3dmark06 starts it goes down to 722/981. WTF? Anybody? WTF? lol
Interesting that it's complete opposite at yours with the driver-level oc

Since Voltage control works only a few days for me, I couldn't test yet, how far I can go with the same card you have. But with stock Voltages it get's unstable when I go further than just 695.25 / 1026 and I got this Cooler on my Sapphire x1950XT 256 (only 1 card though ), so I think it's totally normal it get's unstable that high. And I have a 120mm Fan on the Top of my card which is Temp Controled by ATITool up to 91% at above 65°, 67°(52° environment) is the absolute max with 30° Room Temp (in summer)

Watch the Pics, I got exact same Clocks showing in either Rivatuner 2.06 or ATITool 0.27b4 +b1.exe. Erm, can U show Voltages with Rivatuner? Couldn't find it yet. What Voltages u changed?

Btw, I have the ATI Catalyst 7.11 54442 driver with CCC, but it was the same on 5-6 prior drivers too.
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After finally getting ATITool to work in Vista, it just won't change the clockspeed.
I do raise the sliders, then click Set Clock, and after around 3 seconds the clock speeds above the sliders just jump back to default without having changed anything, no matter what clock speed i set.

Any ideas why? ATITool seems to work properly, or at least the monitor does.

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After finally getting ATITool to work in Vista, it just won't change the clockspeed.
I do raise the sliders, then click Set Clock, and after around 3 seconds the clock speeds above the sliders just jump back to default without having changed anything, no matter what clock speed i set.

Any ideas why? ATITool seems to work properly, or at least the monitor does.

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Sigh, read the last posts (page 5&6 at least) and follow the tips plz. Then be more specific what you tried, I'll try helping you. I'll get my 8800GT next week, I'll tell my success with ATITool.
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Anyone have any ideas on this? It sure would be appreciated


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When I run "find max core" it runs through the tests but the frequencies on the sliders & up where it reads Current clocks remain 612 they do not increase over time. Any ideas?

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