Swiftech Introduces H20-220 Compact CPU Liquid Cooling Kit

[gabe rouchon]

Originally Posted by tigger69

For people in the uk,this kit builder is the bees knees,you can pay for the pump and tubing,and get the rad,cpu block ,gpu block and res for free.This is only if you want a single rad,if you want extra rad/blocks you pay for them.but it is very cheap.you can get the list below for £90 in vat


Ave a look yourselves-

http://www.coolercases.co.uk/acatalo...t_Builder.html

That's comparing a single rad kit to a dual rad kit, but I'll play with you there too:

let's not count the VAT. 76 Sterling at todays exchange rate is $155.00

The H20-120 single rad kit street price (since we are now talking street pricing) is $139.99

[tigger]

thats a 360mm rad,3x120mm rad.so how is that a single rad? And you get a dd maze 5 gpu block too,theres no gpu block on the swifty thing.

[intel igent]

Originally Posted by tigger69

thats a 360mm rad,3x120mm rad.so how is that a single rad? And you get a dd maze 5 gpu block too,theres no gpu block on the swifty thing.

that HAS got 2b photoshopped.

i call SHENANIGANS!

[tigger]

photoshopped

why would i post it if it was photoshopped? im not a dick.

try the link yourself on the kit builder.is kosher

[intel igent]

Originally Posted by tigger69

For people in the uk,this kit builder is the bees knees,you can pay for the pump and tubing,and get the rad,cpu block ,gpu block and res for free.This is only if you want a single rad,if you want extra rad/blocks you pay for them.but it is very cheap.you can get the list below for £90 in vat


Ave a look yourselves-

http://www.coolercases.co.uk/acatalo...t_Builder.html

sum1 merge this with my previous post plz

i g00f3d

[intel igent]

Originally Posted by tigger69

photoshopped

why would i post it if it was photoshopped? im not a dick.

try the link yourself on the kit builder.is kosher

so theyre just giving away hardware in the UK now?!?!?

EDIT: i just entered the EXACT same parts as you and its giving me 151.78 BIG difference

EDIT 2: obviously you are a D!CK cuz you left out the price of the rad

[tigger]

I dont know,its real tho'.

[gabe rouchon]

Originally Posted by tigger69

thats a 360mm rad,3x120mm rad.so how is that a single rad? And you get a dd maze 5 gpu block too,theres no gpu block on the swifty thing.

you said: "This is only if you want a single rad"

[tigger]

yes i meant a single rad as in 360mm,if you want more than 1 you pay for the second.The single rad is not a 120mm x1 rad.look at the list.Blackice stealth "360".

[Chewy]

worked perfect for me..

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Originally Posted by gabe rouchon

All right then, let's do the math, using the manufacturer suggested retail price:

MCP350 pump: $79.95
MCR220-QP Res radiator: $59.95
(2) fans: $10
Water-block: included (built into pump) - Estimated value (using apogee product line for example): $50
Reservoir: included (built into radiator) - Estimated value (using MCRes Micro for example): $20
Tubing, Coolant, Misc accessories (voltage adaptors, fittings, thermal grease): Estimated value $20

Total Value at MSRP: $240

Actual MSRP of the kit: $199.95

I hope the above helps you in re-evaluating your assessment.

Best regards,



Gabriel Rouchon
Chairman, CTA

Swiftech
3700 Industry Ave., Suite 104
Lakewood, CA 90712
T. (562) 595-8009
F. (562) 595-8769
www.swiftech.com

this has got to be the first ive seena company rep come and personally defend a product.

[erocker]

What about this kit for around the same price? http://www.petrastechshop.com/pecoba.html Or, they have a 120mm radiator kit for $140! Thier pumps look pretty nice. I have no idea though.

[gabe rouchon]

Originally Posted by tigger69

yes i meant a single rad as in 360mm,if you want more than 1 you pay for the second.The single rad is not a 120mm x1 rad.look at the list.Blackice stealth "360".

thanks for clarification. I went to the site, and it certainly appears genuine. it's a solid deal. you need to add the fans though. once you add that, and considering the street pricing, we should still be quite competitive while offering the easier installation :-)

[tigger]

Originally Posted by intel igent

so theyre just giving away hardware in the UK now?!?!?

EDIT: i just entered the EXACT same parts as you and its giving me 151.78 BIG difference

EDIT 2: obviously you are a D!CK cuz you left out the price of the rad

So how am i a dick? it worked for chewy.mebbe you didnt do it right.

[intel igent]

i entered all of the same products as you and got the price i listed in my above posts.

if MY dumb ass could take a screenie i would n show ya.

within regards to a corporate entity defending its products: lets just say that theres been quite a bit of it l8ly. hasnt there?

[erocker]

Fella's, stop arguing in a news post please . If you want, I can start a "tigger" vs. "IntelAgent" thread over in "general nonsense" for you guys!

[tigger]

I'm not saying your thing is a bad price/thing gabe,its a solid piece of kit,and easy to install for a noobie,and i love swiftech stuff.I already have an apogee gt block.I just thought for someone in the uk its a stellar deal for someone who wants a custom kit for a similar price.

[oily_17]

Got to say Tigger that is a great deal,fantastic.Been on their site before but never tried the kit builder out.

Hell it's so cheap I'm looking about now for something just to watercool it.

Must also say Swiftech do make good kits,I am using an H2O-Apex Ultra kit,and for the money I am very happy with the build quality and performance that it gives.

[tigger]

im not gonna argue with him,if he cant do it right when two people can then..........

[/end argument]

thanks oily,try the same stuff as me,and see if you get the same £90 price please.

[oily_17]

Originally Posted by tigger69

im not gonna argue with him,if he cant do it right when two people can then..........

[/end argument]

thanks oily,try the same stuff as me,and see if you get the same £90 price please.

Yep same price,but use Masterkleer tubing for FREE and it comes in under £70.

[AddSub]

this has got to be the first ive seena company rep come and personally defend a product.

Nothing new, for me at least. I've had a Mushkin rep come out and defend their marketing/manufacturing practices few months ago. Actually, that guy (I forget his nick) pretty much confirmed what I said. Basically it was about my personal observations and several conversations I had with other Mushkin reps prior (not on TPU), who confided in me about Mushkin IC selection process and marketing tactics.

Anyways.

Total Value at MSRP: $240

I can put together an equivalent kit for much, much less, by using equivalent non-swiftech components. Similar pump capacity, coolant, tubing, reservoir, and others. A quick visit to my local Microcenter, a visit to aerocooler.com and/or coolerguys.com should suffice. Of course you used swiftech components in your shopping list, but from my personal experience swiftech components come with a severe brand-name mark-up. I would be paying extra just for the honor of a swiftech logo/label, which is not really worth it for me. (Although, it is for many others) I understand that a kit like this has a standard mark-up from a commercial standpoint due to the fact that IT IS a kit, and I understand that you got profits to worry about but ain't buyin it, both figuratively and literally.

Watch it.

Eh? Whatever man.

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by AddSub

I can put together an equivalent kit for much, much less, by using equivalent non-swiftech components.

Put your money where your mouth is. lol. j/k But seriously, I'd like to see what you come up with, and if it compares in quality and performance.