New security forum?

[lemonadesoda]

The new NETWORKING forum is a great idea.

I dont want to encourage forum overkill - but a forum on "SECURITY" management, under the SOFTWARE category including:

> Software Firewalls (hardware firewalls remain in Hardware/Networking)
> Virus and Antivirus
> Malware and utilities
> Wireless security (wireless network hardware remains in Hardware/Networking)
> User ACL
> Filesystem ACL
> Backupsoftware
> Router remote access VPN, port blocking/forwarding etc.
> Remote Desktop access/control RDC

... etc. would be very helpful. SECURITY is such a major issue, and is often very complex, or tricky to implement, like Active Directory, Remote Desktop, ACL etc. - that it deserves its own space - experts - and moderators.

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[panchoman]

a very good idea, i definently support this

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by panchoman

a very good idea, i definently support this

K if you are willing to head it up I'm game for that. Get w1z to support it tho.

[panchoman]

the poll should've been should we have the forum or not, not where to put it. also putting stuff about antivirus into networking isn't a good idea imo

[craigwhiteside]

i support it to the hilt , actually anti virus was originally made for networks since you cant get many viruses from your own pc, and almost all of them come from the internet that is the biggest network of them all lol

[spud107]

wireless security needed

[ex_reven]

I think this section is pretty much covered by that sticky thread with all the necessary software you should have. Thats full of AV, malware, spyware removal related programs. That pretty much covers that aspect of the subforum.

With regards to hardware based security that really does fall under the network category anyway. Why split it up further?

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by ex_reven

I think this section is pretty much covered by that sticky thread with all the necessary software you should have. Thats full of AV, malware, spyware removal related programs. That pretty much covers that aspect of the subforum.

With regards to hardware based security that really does fall under the network category anyway. Why split it up further?

Why split it further? So we can have more mods and more confusion

[craigwhiteside]

lol caboose is planning an uprising o.O

[panchoman]

ehh.. i somehow doubt we're gonna get more mods, but it'd be nice

[lemonadesoda]

Originally Posted by ex_reven

I think this section is pretty much covered by that sticky thread with all the necessary software you should have. Thats full of AV, malware, spyware removal related programs. That pretty much covers that aspect of the subforum.

With regards to hardware based security that really does fall under the network category anyway. Why split it up further?

I disagree. The sticky about recommended software is about as helpful as a sticky about recommended hardware. Useful. But soon out of date. And NOWHERE to ask questions, discuss issues, or get help.

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by craigwhiteside

lol caboose is planning an uprising o.O

Yeah right... if anyone was planning an uprising it would be the teen club

[panchoman]

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

I disagree. The sticky about recommended software is about as helpful as a sticky about recommended hardware. Useful. But soon out of date. And NOWHERE to ask questions, discuss issues, or get help.

+1

[imperialreign]

I view anti-malware and security software as software, and networking as dealing with hardware and system communication closer to the hardware level.

[craigwhiteside]

its really just a persons take on what they see what networking actually is, since it is a mix of both hardware and software

[PVTCaboose1337]

Hardware firewalls = in networking...
Softwae firewalls = in networking AS WELL

[craigwhiteside]

very good point caboose

[PVTCaboose1337]

If I could spell software

[Polaris573]

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[zekrahminator]

Originally Posted by panchoman

ehh.. i somehow doubt we're gonna get more mods, but it'd be nice

No it wouldn't. You'd giggle at the ability to change your user title for about an hour, and then you'd suddenly be put under immense pressure to conform. Because you're new, and not exactly in favor of half the staff, chances are you'd get booted from the team at the first screw-up.

Not to mention, you have to somehow keep TPU members from blowing a gasket when they screw up. If you succeed, nobody is the wiser, and you get some satisfaction out of knowing you did something good. If you fail, then everyone is on your case like nobody's business. Being a moderator is surprisingly unrewarding, unless you get super moderator powers and have a few giggles. But then again, those giggles only last until people higher up than you are have a problem with what you're doing....which they will.

Basically? A moderator is like an unpaid babysitter who works for a lawyer.

[craigwhiteside]

firewalls sole purpose is to block incoming and outgoing network connections from your pc, this is used solely for a networking purpose and is used to control access to and from the network, so if its used to control access for the network then it must be for networks.

[ex_reven]

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

I disagree. The sticky about recommended software is about as helpful as a sticky about recommended hardware. Useful. But soon out of date. And NOWHERE to ask questions, discuss issues, or get help.

The sticky about reccommended software is fine if all you need to do is find protective software for your computer. AV stuff and scanners dont change often, all you need to do is find them and keep them updated. The majority of the software listed still performs as needed. Programs like "hijackthis" and "Process monitor" never really date.

If someone seriously needed help with a virus issue or implementing security on their system it would be better placed in the software forum. Placing a security forum within the network category would mean that only network based security questions would belong, rather than the protection of their entire system as a whole. If the security forum were to form a whole new forum that would be somewhat improved, though the general software section seems to cater well for this already anyway...

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by zekrahminator

No it wouldn't. You'd giggle at the ability to change your user title for about an hour, and then you'd suddenly be put under immense pressure to conform. Because you're new, and not exactly in favor of half the staff, chances are you'd get booted from the team at the first screw-up.

Not to mention, you have to somehow keep TPU members from blowing a gasket when they screw up. If you succeed, nobody is the wiser, and you get some satisfaction out of knowing you did something good. If you fail, then everyone is on your case like nobody's business. Being a moderator is surprisingly unrewarding, unless you get super moderator powers and have a few giggles. But then again, those giggles only last until people higher up than you are have a problem with what you're doing....which they will.

Basically? A moderator is like an unpaid babysitter who works for a lawyer.

Ya he changes his title to the muffinman lol.

[craigwhiteside]

well im not here for fun, i am here to help people out with problems, thats why i suggested it to wiz, he agreed and here i am, i dont think wiz would make people mods so they can just have fun in the first place, im here to make it an enjoyable and rewarding experience and that is its own reward

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by ex_reven

The sticky about reccommended software is fine if all you need to do is find protective software for your computer. AV stuff and scanners dont change often, all you need to do is find them and keep them updated. The majority of the software listed still performs as needed. Programs like "hijackthis" and "Process monitor" never really date.

If someone seriously needed help with a virus issue or implementing security on their system it would be better placed in the software forum. Placing a security forum within the network category would mean that only network based security questions would belong, rather than the protection of their entire system as a whole. If the security forum were to form a whole new forum that would be somewhat improved, though the general software section seems to cater well for this already anyway...

OMG Come on guys the security section is IMPORTANT! A stupid list does nothing. Hell if we don't make this a Networking and Security Forum, ill recommend myself to be the mod for security section and ask w1z about it because im tired of getting into software and seeing almost HALF antivirus issues.

Edit: If i'm not clear, a forum JUST for security, AV, and etc, RIGHT BY the networking forum, but not inside it.