AGP - Radeon HD 3850 - w00t

Completely Bonkers · Jan 1, 2008, 01:21 PM

http://www.powercolor.com/Global/pro...sp?ModelID=468

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trog100 · Jan 1, 2008, 01:51 PM

be interesting to see how an agp one benches compared to whatever pci-e-XXXX we are on now..

trog

jamupnorth · Jan 1, 2008, 02:07 PM

What driver can be used with this card ?

i don't think the radeon 7.12 supports agp ?

Morgoth · Jan 1, 2008, 02:53 PM

i must buy

Cold Storm · Jan 1, 2008, 03:23 PM

And sir, your the one man here, that has waited, and waited for as long as I can remember, to get this card... I'm glad you don't have to wait anymore!!! Now, how much money....

I believe thats where they are going to

Morgoth · Jan 3, 2008, 01:23 AM

me?

-=CrAnSwIcK=- · Jan 3, 2008, 01:44 AM

i ran my 3850 with the HT bus width at x8 up and down and i scored a mere 150 points lower in 3Dmark06...PCI-e frequency is only 33mhz faster than AGP...i can't see it being a HUGE bottle neck...mostly i would say only the CPU's that were comon when AGP was the standard would be to blame the most for any noticeable bottleneck...then again, i've never ran a 3850 on PCI-e 2.0 spec either

erocker · Jan 3, 2008, 02:08 AM

I wouldn't buy this card untill there is a known working driver for it... Also, if you are using a NF3 chipset I wouldn't count on using this card with it and use Vista.

Widjaja · Jan 3, 2008, 02:39 AM

I wouldn't buy this card.
Too much of a bottleneck from most CPU's which use AGP motherboards.

The Bottleneck of a P4 would be too much IMO.
3850 AGP would possibly = 939 PCI-E motherboard and 3850 PCI-E

KainXS · Jan 3, 2008, 02:51 AM

theres also the problem that this card will have a railto on the pcb which can result in alot of hot cards that are incompatible with many custom cooling solutions.

remember the X1950XT AGP and the 7950GT AGP

erocker · Jan 3, 2008, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Widjaja

I wouldn't buy this card.
Too much of a bottleneck from most CPU's which use AGP motherboards.

The Bottleneck of a P4 would be too much IMO.
3850 AGP would possibly = 939 PCI-E motherboard and 3850 PCI-E

I disagree, this would be the perfect card for anyone running a s939 agp board with a X2 processor. 3850 AGP if drivers are up to snuff does = 939 pci-e or possibly even an AM2 with a 3850.(excluding B.E.'s and anything that easily clocks over 3.2ghz.) The only problem is most people with decent s939 agp boards are using nForce 3. There are some ati and intel chipset agp boards out there,and then you have the far more common VIA. With VIA it's pointless because there's no AGP lock on the board. Without that your not going to be able to overclock the rest of your system to keep up with the card. Let's kill the maket together and buy Pci-e motherboards.

Ok, but if this card works for you, good luck!

KieranD · Jan 3, 2008, 03:37 AM

dont think that it wuld be good for a 939 system coz the agp boards are pretty crap ones hmmn the cpus on 939 can do fine with a 3850 but its that most are pci ex

this card is only good for those that have a really top spec agp system and want to keep it this will possibly be the last agp card out

agp is only good for those wanting to get more out of an old system
id use a hd2xxx in my old system just for the media capability

Xolair · Jan 3, 2008, 09:07 AM

Heh, perhaps I should change from my current PCI-E card to one of these... 4x PCI-E might actually be slower than 8x AGP, or is it?

Widjaja · Jan 3, 2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

I disagree, this would be the perfect card for anyone running a s939 agp board with a X2 processor. 3850 AGP if drivers are up to snuff does = 939 pci-e or possibly even an AM2 with a 3850.(excluding B.E.'s and anything that easily clocks over 3.2ghz.) The only problem is most people with decent s939 agp boards are using nForce 3. There are some ati and intel chipset agp boards out there,and then you have the far more common VIA. With VIA it's pointless because there's no AGP lock on the board. Without that your not going to be able to overclock the rest of your system to keep up with the card. Let's kill the maket together and buy Pci-e motherboards.

Ok, but if this card works for you, good luck!

How much more would this card be than the PCI-E version though?
Remember the price difference between the PCI-E and AGP X1950pros?

BTW K8T800pro VIA chipset does have a 'working' AGP lock.
Well mine works anyway but the K8T800 does not.

a-l-e-x · Jan 4, 2008, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KainXS

theres also the problem that this card will have a railto on the pcb which can result in alot of hot cards that are incompatible with many custom cooling solutions.

remember the X1950XT AGP and the 7950GT AGP

My 7950GT AGP works fine! :P I have a core2quad 6600 and 7950GT AGP and score around 5500 3DMarks06 with everything at stock. I wonder if the 3850 AGP would get me over 10,000?

Morgoth · Jan 4, 2008, 03:25 AM

anny one found more hd3850 agp's for sale?

trog100 · Jan 4, 2008, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xolair

Heh, perhaps I should change from my current PCI-E card to one of these... 4x PCI-E might actually be slower than 8x AGP, or is it?

i think 4 x pci-e equals 8 x agp.. nothing maxed out 8 x agp when it was current pretty much like nothing maxes out 16 x pci-e now..

trog

tkpenalty · Jan 4, 2008, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a-l-e-x

My 7950GT AGP works fine! :P I have a core2quad 6600 and 7950GT AGP and score around 5500 3DMarks06 with everything at stock. I wonder if the 3850 AGP would get me over 10,000?

C2Q + 7950GT? System specs please? I find that rather hard to believe... no chipset supports Kentsfield + AGP...

Xaser04 · Jan 4, 2008, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkpenalty

C2Q + 7950GT? System specs please? I find that rather hard to believe... no chipset supports Kentsfield + AGP...

What about the Asrock Quad vsata board? Did this have AGP (I assume the quad part refers to it being able to take quads)

Edit sorry I mean this one:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...d=5&subcat=205

States it is compatible with Quad core Kentsfield processors and has an AGP port.

tkpenalty · Jan 4, 2008, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaser04

What about the Asrock Quad vsata board? Did this have AGP (I assume the quad part refers to it being able to take quads)

Edit sorry I mean this one:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...d=5&subcat=205

States it is compatible with Quad core Kentsfield processors and has an AGP port.

Oh my bad yeah I forgot about that board

Those asrock boards are pretty useful for system testers...

InfDamarvel · Jan 4, 2008, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkpenalty

C2Q + 7950GT? System specs please? I find that rather hard to believe... no chipset supports Kentsfield + AGP...

its true thx to asrock

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KainXS Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,694 (2.27/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 465 Times in 382 Posts System Specs	theres also the problem that this card will have a railto on the pcb which can result in alot of hot cards that are incompatible with many custom cooling solutions. remember the X1950XT AGP and the 7950GT AGP

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