Cable Management Helpdesk - Page 14

Athlonite · Oct 18, 2010, 12:44 AM

hmmm the HAF922 is lookin good although the CM690/2 is also an great case too

t_ski · Oct 18, 2010, 02:38 AM

The purists will tell you modular cables take away from the rails. That's why the most common cables are sometimes hard-wires into the PSU when the rest is still modular.

[Ion] · Oct 18, 2010, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Athlonite

hmmm the HAF922 is lookin good although the CM690/2 is also an great case too

That they are...and NE frequently has the CM692 Basic for ~$70 shipped

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

The purists will tell you modular cables take away from the rails. That's why the most common cables are sometimes hard-wires into the PSU when the rest is still modular.

Sorry, what does this mean?

t_ski · Oct 18, 2010, 02:47 AM

The fact that if you have any kind of pin connection, it won't be as good (ie: there will be loss) as a soldered wire connection from point A to point B. A 24-pin header will have some loss on the mobo side, and if that cable is modular, there will be some more loss on the PSU side. Adding in an extension creates another point for loss, etc.

Chicken Patty · Oct 18, 2010, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by [Ion]

That they are...and NE frequently has the CM692 Basic for ~$70 shipped

Sorry, what does this mean?

That'll be a great choice of case, I love mine!

Athlonite · Oct 18, 2010, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

The purists will tell you modular cables take away from the rails. That's why the most common cables are sometimes hard-wires into the PSU when the rest is still modular.

To put it simply the more connections the greater the resistance the less current/Volts at the end of the cable

but personally I think it's a crock of farting ducks bums for good quality PSU's it may hold true piece of shit cheap n nasties but then I don't buy CnN's

silkstone · Dec 5, 2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Athlonite

To put it simply the more connections the greater the resistance the less current/Volts at the end of the cable

but personally I think it's a crock of farting ducks bums for good quality PSU's it may hold true piece of shit cheap n nasties but then I don't buy CnN's

It doesn't matter if it's cheap and nasty or a really good quality PSU. If the PSU is putting out 12v or even slightly higher there is added resistance over each connection effectively dropping the output voltage.
This is very difficult to compensate for as every link would be slightly different. The way to reduce this would be by putting some liquid or gel like substance of hi-electrical conductivity between the links. Kinda like you do when you seat a hsf on a CPU. Although you can;t do this with a PSU's connectors as if any of the conductive material leaks 'pop' goes your PSU.

Granted the resistance and voltage drop wouldn't be huge, but it would still be there, and if any of the connectors get bent or dust and dirt or even oxidation then the resistance goes up dropping the output voltage even more.

Athlonite · Dec 6, 2010, 03:11 AM

as I said the resistance is negligible at the cable lengths we're talking about maybe if the cable were ten feet long it might have more of an effect and had multiple joins in them

silkstone · Dec 6, 2010, 05:09 AM

I don't suppose anyone has tips for my cable management attempts? I'm more or less out of ideas.

freaksavior · Dec 6, 2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by silkstone

I don't suppose anyone has tips for my cable management attempts? I'm more or less out of ideas.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5075/caseupload2.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4...management.jpg

First is first, get a sata dvd drive. That helps alot

Second, hide as many wires (like power) behind the motherboard tray.

Then, use zip ties and get some cable sleeving.

Tuck it anywhere you have open spaces,

The sata for hdd, get a longer cable, or move your drive to the bottom.

Patience, planning, and extensions = clean and tidy case

qu4k3r · Dec 6, 2010, 04:18 PM

Patience.
Explore adequated routes...... (More Patience)
A lot of zip ties................... (Some just for trying and some for the final result)
A lot of Trial and Error.......... (More Patience)

Velvet Wafer · Dec 6, 2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by freaksavior

First is first, get a sata dvd drive. That helps alot

he doesnt need a new drive, an ide to sata adapter would be more than sufficient

Athlonite · Dec 6, 2010, 06:32 PM

or just move the drive lower down and hide the cable behind the mobo tray

t_ski · Dec 6, 2010, 11:11 PM

Or buy a single connector cable that is the appropriate length. I still use IDE DVD drives, but I use one of these:

http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...x2/index.shtml

Does dual IDE drives without all the extra bundled between them.

micropage7 · Dec 6, 2010, 11:35 PM

try to zip the same cable, or wrap it then tun it on the same direction
that kinda need creativity

t77snapshot · Dec 6, 2010, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

First is first, get a sata dvd drive. That helps alot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet Wafer

he doesnt need a new drive, an ide to sata adapter would be more than sufficient

Yeah I made an IDE drive look good one time! He just has to run it behind the mobo tray like freaksavor said originally.

freaksavior · Dec 7, 2010, 12:16 AM

Ide still looks like trash

silkstone · Dec 7, 2010, 04:14 AM

Well, The cable i have isn't long enough to do that with the placement of the IDE socket on my board. the door on my DVD is jammed anyway, so if i can't fix it, i'll just get a new SATA drive.

khangai · Dec 11, 2010, 04:29 AM

Blue-Tiger · Jan 29, 2011, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silkstone

I don't suppose anyone has tips for my cable management attempts? I'm more or less out of ideas.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5075/caseupload2.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4...management.jpg

I'd also say, get rid of the IDE drive... But if that's not an option moving the drive a slot or two lower might be an option. Then you can route the IDE cable behind the tray

kenyak22 · Feb 6, 2011, 03:23 PM

here's my share....

MRCL · Feb 6, 2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kenyak22

here's my share....

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l.../SDC100182.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...008/entry3.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...8/SDC10016.jpg

Whats the case you're using? Any chance to flip the HDD around?

Blue-Tiger · Feb 6, 2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kenyak22

here's my share....

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l.../SDC100182.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...008/entry3.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...8/SDC10016.jpg

Looking good. Especially the 24-pins cable is looking unique imo

Chicken Patty · Feb 6, 2011, 05:29 PM

Yeah what he did with the 24 pin is pretty effin' badass!

scaminatrix · Feb 6, 2011, 07:07 PM

Some good looking rigs here, very nice examples to go by. I've just got some finishing touches to do on mine.

Sleeving remaining wires
New sleeved extensions on 24-pin and PCI-plugs
And shrouding the PSU wires (I know the shroud isn't for hiding the wires, but it should fit with minimal modding)

Oct 18, 2010, 12:44 AM	#326
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Oct 18, 2010, 02:47 AM	#329
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Dec 6, 2010, 03:11 AM	#333
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Dec 6, 2010, 05:09 AM	#334
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Dec 6, 2010, 06:32 PM	#338
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Dec 6, 2010, 11:11 PM	#339
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Dec 6, 2010, 11:35 PM	#340
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Dec 7, 2010, 12:16 AM	#342
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Dec 7, 2010, 04:14 AM	#343
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Feb 6, 2011, 03:23 PM	#346
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Feb 6, 2011, 05:29 PM	#349
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Feb 6, 2011, 07:07 PM	#350
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Sound Card:	X-Fi (Onboard) + Technics SA-GX530 amp powering JVC HA-RX700's with Zalman mic
PSU:	Corsair HX650W
Software:	Win7 Pro x64
Benchmarks:	I've scratched my name into all the benches in my local park. Using Corsair M90, soon to be using Lo

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