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Old Jan 15, 2008, 04:58 AM   #1
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Should I Get a 8800GT or a HD3870?

So hello guys, its about that time of year that I'm going to upgrade one part of my PC. That is the GPU. My X1950PRO at the moment seems to not like me anymore, having several problems occasionally, moreover this upgrade is more convenient for me (undisclosed details).

Anyway out of the two...

GV-NX88T512HP

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Note its a CHOICE between the two, I will not deviate into purchasing other HD3870/8800GT from other manufacturers; reference PCB ftl.

So guys... out of the two which one?

***** Please consider *****
-Faliure rate, please do not account this while making a desicion
-Length of GPU, and how much space I have in my case
-The fact that I will immediately rip off the VF700ALCU and install an AcceleroS1
-The fact that both are non reference designs so VRM issues are not supposed to be considered
-Take how much it costs out of the equation.

I will NOT deviate from the two i repeat again... just choose one
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only one pic?

i also thought you decided on an 8800GT?
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Before I answer, I have to ask a few questions. Can we suggest other brands? If so, what's you price range? Do you like using AA?
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Before I answer, I have to ask a few questions. Can we suggest other brands? If so, what's you price range? Do you like using AA?
Nup only these two models, other brands are inferior in every other aspect. I've done my research, just choose [/ignore AA question]
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I'd say if you have to choose now, due to the failure rate of 8800gt's that it's more of a gamble than the 3870's which, while slower on some fronts, are more dependable. That's my views and opinions though. To those that dislike what I have to say, go to any tech thread's vid section, including this one and search for 8800gt's artifacting out of the box among other issues that should've been solved after that first shipment. They're great cards, I have a buddy who's running 2 in SLI without any issues at all...he highly recommends them, but even agrees that he took a gamble and that the 3870's are more dependable. Both are good cards, you really can't go wrong with both, but the odds of having to RMA one the same day you install it is definately increased with one of the choices...and we all know RMA is not quick in a "want it now" world!

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I'd say if you have to choose now, due to the failure rate of 8800gt's that it's more of a gamble than the 3870's which, while slower on some fronts, are more dependable. That's my views and opinions though. To those that dislike what I have to say, go to any tech thread's vid section, including this one and search for 8800gt's artifacting out of the box among other issues that should've been solved after that first shipment. They're great cards, I have a buddy who's running 2 in SLI without any issues at all...he highly recommends them, but even agrees that he took a gamble and that the 3870's are more dependable. Both are good cards, you really can't go wrong with both, but the odds of having to RMA one the same day you install it is definately increased with one of the choices...and we all know RMA is not quick in a "want it now" world!

Just food for thought!
Realise this, we are talking about two non-reference GPUs here, the 8800GTs from gigabyte don't have a high faliure rate, thanks to four phases instead of the three you find on the reference design. So take faliure rate out of the equation, I am not using a reference design GPU at the moment so its totally irrelevant.
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Nup only these two models, other brands are inferior in every other aspect. I've done my research, just choose [/ignore AA question]
No, Palit, Gainward, and Xpert Vision all have non-reference designs, with upgraded cooling and 3-phase power. (They're all actually made by the same manufacturer)That's why I was asking.

Here's the Palit model: http://www.palit.biz/en/products/nv_...Sonic.htm#spec
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Realise this, we are talking about two non-reference GPUs here, the 8800GTs from gigabyte don't have a high faliure rate, thanks to four phases instead of the three you find on the reference design. So take faliure rate out of the equation, I am not using a reference design GPU at the moment so its totally irrelevant.
Standard 8800GT has 2 phase. Gigabyte and the ones I mentioned are 3 phase. Unless you are counting the vmem phase as well.
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As I said, don't try to deviate from these two.
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Okay now I'd like a reason to your choice
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As I said, don't try to deviate from these two.
I think you are using flawed logic. The vregs and ram on the GB aren't even cooled, and it only has vf-700 for cooling.

You still haven't answered the Anti Aliasing question.
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I think you are using flawed logic. The vregs and ram on the GB aren't even cooled, and it only has vf-700 for cooling, but whatever, suit yourself.

You still haven't answered the Anti Aliasing question.
Flawed logic? Not really, I've already tested both the cards, those arent vregs, but mosfets. No they dont run warm, the memory, only slightly. (Samsung RAM modules ftw).
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Flawed logic? Not really, I've already tested both the cards, those arent vregs, but mosfets. No they dont run warm, the memory, only slightly. (Samsung RAM modules ftw).
The Palits have 1.0ns Samsung as well. And the ram and fets are sinked.

But all technicalities aside, you still need to answer the AA question for me to pick. It weighs heavily on my decision. And the price difference of the cards, now that I think of it.
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The Palits have 1.0ns Samsung as well. And the ram and fets are sinked.

But all technicalities aside, you still need to answer the AA question for me to pick. It weighs heavily on my decision. And the price difference of the cards, now that I think of it.
Read, ignore the price factor. Yes I will be using AA for sure. I NEVER game without AA.
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Read, ignore the price factor. Yes I will be using AA for sure. I NEVER game without AA.
Didn't catch your edit.

8800GT, hands down. As soon as the AA is enabled, it walks away from the DX10 ATI cards.
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So guys? Vote please.
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Wow, a bunch of votes and no comments?! The 8800GT all the way, break your mold and get a Palit. Though I do like the Gigabyte card as well.
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*is about to burst out laughing*

Hmm... votes and comments please!
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Oh yeah by the way, if the 8800 wins and i get it, there will be a 8 series clubhouse as well. So... I'll have two clubhouses... one HD3k and one 8 series (I didnt like the 7 series at all so I'm not bothering with supporting the 7 series GPUs).
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get the 8800 so i can join the clubhouse, and cos it prawns the 3870, aa on or off.
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To be honest I think you've already made your decision in the Clubhouse (read "More frames on an 8800 plz) so what was the point in this thread?

If all you are after is performance then the 8800 is by no contest the winner, and you seem to be ignoring everything that makes the 3870 good (read, price). So this thread is totally pointless.
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Please vote and provide reasons.
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