3870 buyers BEWARE!

Nitro-Max · Jan 16, 2008, 05:30 PM

I recently purchased a hd 3870 from ocuk it was there own brand and advertised with blower fan and memory coolers but when it arrived it wasnt the case it has the aftermarket cooler which blows hot air around the case but this isnt the worst of it !! this card will NOT overclock at all in ati overdrive the bios is locked !! from doing so it will work in rivatuner but this is besides the point who wants a locked bios to stock speeds especially from a well known overclocking website !!! and they acually put there name on it!! another thing they had a one week special offer on the price of this card they must have sold heaps of them as its a popular card but heres the bottom line they only have one good customer review for it!!! now im thinking theyve had heaps of complaints and are only showing the good reviews ie "1" probably made up by themselves heres the card in question although it works great at stock if you wish to overclock DO NOT BUY!!
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=56&subcat=416

gerrynicol · Jan 16, 2008, 05:44 PM

Did you click on this button ??

If not you need to click on this to unlock the overclocking feature in CCC.

smartphone · Jan 16, 2008, 05:46 PM

is it possible to flash the bios when it is locked?

trog100 · Jan 16, 2008, 05:49 PM

send it back and say its not as described.. make noises they wiill swop it.. basically when u buy OC/UK claimed own brand stuff its pot luck what u get from what i read..

trog

Makaveli · Jan 16, 2008, 05:52 PM

You should change the title to do not buy from this Http://This website.com!

The title is very misleading.

I have an Asus 3870 and had no issues overclocking at all.

rhythmeister · Jan 16, 2008, 06:01 PM

Have you not flashed it with any of the new bioses that are floating about the internet? I too think that you haven't hit the unlock button in CCC...I wouldn't let CCC set the card's max' clock speeds tho, I have to bring them down from what it says is fine or I get crashes!

Nitro-Max · Jan 16, 2008, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerrynicol

Did you click on this button ??

If not you need to click on this to unlock the overclocking feature in CCC.

yes m8 thats unlocked my last card was a x1900xt so i have done overclocking with ati before no matter what i set the clocks to all it does is flash and resets back to default clocks even the auto tune does absolutly nothing ive tried old drivers and even the latest with no joy i used everest and this is the info it gives which leads me to belive its locked for overdrive overclocking

State #1 GPU: 777 MHz, Memory: 1126 MHz (Boot)
State #2 GPU: 775 MHz, Memory: 1126 MHz (OverDrive)
State #3 GPU: 775 MHz, Memory: 1126 MHz
State #4 GPU: 775 MHz, Memory: 1126 MHz (UVD)

it seems to stick to these values even if i overclock or even underclock
i am gonna ring ocuk but i get a very bad feeling they arent gonna comply as i said they must have misslead others but just not added the bad reviews failing this im gonna get it flashed but my floppy drives acting up abit atm doesnt seem to want to format anything so so i darent risk it.

Nitro-Max · Jan 16, 2008, 11:51 PM

why is you gpu clock set to 300mhz? when mines always at 775mhz

asb2106 · Jan 16, 2008, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitro-Max

yes m8 thats unlocked my last card was a x1900xt so i have done overclocking with ati before no matter what i set the clocks to all it does is flash and resets back to default clocks even the auto tune does absolutly nothing ive tried old drivers and even the latest with no joy i used everest and this is the info it gives which leads me to belive its locked for overdrive overclocking

State #1 GPU: 777 MHz, Memory: 1126 MHz (Boot)
State #2 GPU: 775 MHz, Memory: 1126 MHz (OverDrive)
State #3 GPU: 775 MHz, Memory: 1126 MHz
State #4 GPU: 775 MHz, Memory: 1126 MHz (UVD)

it seems to stick to these values even if i overclock or even underclock
i am gonna ring ocuk but i get a very bad feeling they arent gonna comply as i said they must have misslead others but just not added the bad reviews failing this im gonna get it flashed but my floppy drives acting up abit atm and i darent risk it.

The card drops automatically to 300mhz on the core until you start a 3d app. I use rivatuner to OC my 3870, and Ive gotten some great results, give it a shot

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download...t=163#download

ShadowFold · Jan 16, 2008, 11:55 PM

One word. VISTA. Use RivaTuner, CCC sucks even on XP for OCing.

asb2106 · Jan 17, 2008, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

One word. VISTA. Use RivaTuner, CCC sucks even on XP for OCing.

ive tried every option out there for overclocking ati cards and since I found rivatuner i dont even try other apps, its the end all do all for OC and monitoring

Nitro-Max · Jan 17, 2008, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asb2106

The card drops automatically to 300mhz on the core until you start a 3d app. I use rivatuner to OC my 3870, and Ive gotten some great results, give it a shot

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download...t=163#download

mines at 775mhz all the time weather running games or not!! this aint normal im confused

gerrynicol · Jan 17, 2008, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

One word. VISTA. Use RivaTuner, CCC sucks even on XP for OCing.

I'm running Vista ultimate 32 with no issues whatsoever

I can get my card to 857core and 1387mem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitro-Max

im gonna get it flashed but my floppy drives acting up abit atm doesnt seem to want to format anything so so i darent risk it.

You can also flash the Bios using winflash, get it here and the bios from here

Hope this helps.

Mandown · Jan 17, 2008, 12:12 AM

Try ati tray tools.

trog100 · Jan 17, 2008, 12:18 AM

i always use the CCC for tweaking my ati cards.. never had the slightest problem with it..

in fact its the only thing that works on an automatic basis.. atitool crashes my card at speeds i know it should run at.. and rivatuner seems good for setting a fixed speed only..

i am on xp..

trog

Nitro-Max · Jan 17, 2008, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerrynicol

I'm running Vista ultimate 32 with no issues whatsoever

I can get my card to 857core and 1387mem.

You can also flash the Bios using winflash, get it here and the bios from here

Hope this helps.

i heard winflash and atiflash doesnt work for this card atm

gerrynicol · Jan 17, 2008, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitro-Max

i heard winflash and atiflash doesnt work for this card atm

I used winflash today to flash to the new Bios, worked fine, machine is on at hom now purring away like a kiten

Nitro-Max · Jan 17, 2008, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerrynicol

I used winflash today to flash to the new Bios, worked fine, machine is on at hom now purring away like a kiten

just tried it wont flash with any of the bios downloads

just keeps saying subsystems id missmatch i click continue and nothing? can anyone mod my present bios to make it act like it should?

MadCow · Jan 17, 2008, 03:14 AM

You're probably gonna have to use a DOS based program and force it to ignore vendor info.

jammy86 · Jan 17, 2008, 03:15 AM

Spend the extra 10er in future then

JAmes.

PashaM · Jan 17, 2008, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asb2106

The card drops automatically to 300mhz on the core until you start a 3d app. I use rivatuner to OC my 3870, and Ive gotten some great results, give it a shot

Let me get this straight, You saying that when i auto-tune in CCC it sets the upper limit for my card and when i start my Crysis session it automatically goes from idle 300 to the upper limit? Im asking cuz i also was confused about ccc overdrive, i set it to 777 manually or do AutoTune but my "Current Clock Settings" still showing 300Mhz.

PashaM · Jan 17, 2008, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerrynicol

I used winflash today to flash to the new Bios, worked fine, machine is on at hom now purring away like a kiten

What exactly do you gain by flashing vid bios? I just got the Asus eah3870 and i figured they would put the latest bios in at the factory?

gerrynicol · Jan 17, 2008, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PashaM

What exactly do you gain by flashing vid bios? I just got the Asus eah3870 and i figured they would put the latest bios in at the factory?

Answer here. Had a quick read and on the vanilla bios there is some kind of PLL issue.

Nitro-Max · Jan 25, 2008, 07:56 PM

well i managed to get a full refund from ocuk now as the card ran into issues anyway and gave up!! gonna buy a gecube overclocked edition next

intel igent · Jan 25, 2008, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerrynicol

Answer here. Had a quick read and on the vanilla bios there is some kind of PLL issue.

mr.nicol! still around? long time no see

to the O/P glad you got it sorted out properly

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Jan 16, 2008, 05:30 PM	#1
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