3850 AGP OC'ing, Vmods, experiences, suggestions, where to buy

[intel igent]

hi all!

this thread is dedicated to all 3850agp users interested in tweaking their cards hopefully giving us a more pleasureabe experience

thnx TPU!

drivers:
newest driver's available from ATi http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...AGPHotfix.aspx << AGP hotfix 9.6 June 16/09

Ati catalyst 8.452 (full driver package from driver CD-intel igent)

Ati hotfix Catalyst 8.3 + CCC suite (15thwarlock)

catalyst 8.1 (Morgoth) catalyst8.3 (does not work with hardware msg-Morgoth) catalyst 8.4(Morgoth)

ATI Catalyst 8.4 http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/driverfiles/421.ZIP(KainXs)

new hot fix http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=56151(malware)

catalyst 8.3 running just the drivers (i.e. no CCC) and disabled both the ATI services as well(Spathi)

catalyst 8.3(MindKrypted)

catalyst 8.4 driver only (blaznjason)

Xtreme 8.4 32bit AGP now, but I 've tried Catalyst since 7.8 http://www.tweakforce.com/ (Harlock)

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpo...26&postcount=1 8.4 hotfix for AGP courtesey Malware

http://www.station-drivers.com/forum...hp?p=8600#8600 8.6 BETA courtesy Gump

Originally Posted by 65tweet

I have tried every cat from 8.1 to 8.4 hotfix with no luck. Here's the lowdown of my problem using BF2 for every run.

8.1 Lots of choppy game play with intermittent long lag periods...got very annoyed and stopped playing. ATI tool won't do anything for my card but it didn't find any artifacts.

8.2 no better performance but random VPU recoveries.

8.3 won't load

8.4 lots of black spots popping up on the ground and still have some choppy game play. on a positive note I didn't get the bad lag ...go ATI. Still no artifacts found in ATI tray tools...ATI tool results in a BSOD Any attempt at an overclock results in a BSOD too. after removing every piece of ATIsoftware I went and installed the 8.4 hotfix drivers again and things are much better. no black spots, long lag periods or incorrect colors on webpages.

BIOS collection/editing :
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attach...6&d=1206726093 (stock sapphire BIOS Morgoth)
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=54776 (BIOS editing tool BAGZZlash) <thank you BAGZZlash
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpo...86&postcount=2 (stock sapphire BIOS 65tweet)
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attach...4&d=1212527189 (BIOS mod tool posted by DTV DRAGON)

overclocking tools:
Atitool .26 (some instabillity-Morgth) Ati tray tools V1.4.7.1149(does not save dynamic fan control settings-Morgoth) rivatuner (apparently no dynamic fan control-Morgth)
Rivatuner 2.08 (only app. I've found so far to support low level driver OCing for this card-15thwarlock)
Atitool: 0.27 Beta 3(15thwarlock)
AtiTool0.27 beta (doesnt show/adj proper clocks causing VPUrecover-intel igent)
rivaTuner 2.08 (blaznjason)

volt mods:
software voltage control possible see this thread to confirm resistor posistion on your card http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=53220

pencil mod same as 3870 (r1222) please see this thread to confirm your cardhttp://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=48544

^^THANKS to RandomMurder + W1zzard

*NOTE* these cards can be run using the 6pin PCI-X power connector from your PSU

cooling solutions:
for either air/water you will need to use ANY of the newer style coolers with "series2" or Nvidia 6800/7800 4 hole mounting

where to buy

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...cture=SAPPHIRE

http://pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=6718

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a302818.html

http://www.google.co.uk/products?cli...&um=1&ie=UTF-8

http://www.azerty.nl/producten/produ...9&GROEP_ID=162

http://www.hpsales.co.uk/extra.asp?pn=CGA-3852DD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102730

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161226

http://www.overclock.co.uk/product/C...-Out_6117.html

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=56&subcat=403

http://canadacomputers.com/index.php...52&cid=999.821

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139622

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...090&Tpk=ag3850

this post is a WIP and will be updated as best i can and thnx to all the people who have contributed

[Namslas90]

Should become available this month (january), Powercolor supposedly(rumored) has an agreement with Circuit City and other distributers to sell them.

[Morgoth]

hey intel if you got one do some benches mybe i buy it to when its under 160 euro

[intel igent]

Originally Posted by Morgoth

hey intel if you got one do some benches mybe i buy it to when its under 160 euro

dont have 1 YET Morgoth like i said i missed out on the 1950's so ill b trying to hunt 1 of these down if i get 1 ill gladly post benchies

anyone got any leeds? its mid january already! hope this wasnt a paper thing

[intel igent]

ne sightings yet?

[erocker]

I think I read somewhere very recently that there are problems.

[intel igent]

Originally Posted by erocker

I think I read somewhere very recently that there are problems.

linky?

i hope not it would be really to nice to get 1 so i could switch to vista and DX10 when the drivers mature.

i just use my comp for basic stuff so a GFX upgrade would be just perfect for me

[Completely Bonkers]

Available in Europe

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a302818.html

Green shows "in stock" and delivery within 48hrs

[intel igent]

Originally Posted by Completely Bonkers

Available in Europe

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a302818.html

Green shows "in stock" and delivery within 48hrs

i dont undersyand german no international shipping? would be nice to find one in N/A

[ShadowFold]

Try looking for thm on monday I think thats when they are released in teh US

[sneekypeet]

I did some googling and hit up the more reputable US online stores....no one seems to have it here yet. Maybe get on live chat with the Egg or shoot NCIX an email and see if they even have plans to buy them yet!

[intel igent]

thnx gents will try

nothing as of yet

keep the hope alive!

[Atom_Anti]

I can`t belive nowhere this card! It is announced for 4 weeks but nothing. Does anybody know what a heck is going on?

[InnocentCriminal]

They're not even available in the UK yet, however I did do search for some shops selling them and some importers said they'd be able to get a Sapphire 3850 in 2 to 3 weeks. I'd hold out, as they may release a 3870 once the 3850 have started selling.

[intel igent]

Originally Posted by InnocentCriminal

They're not even available in the UK yet, however I did do search for some shops selling them and some importers said they'd be able to get a Sapphire 3850 in 2 to 3 weeks. I'd hold out, as they may release a 3870 once the 3850 have started selling.

DONT TEASE ME!

JUST PLEASE ME!

PLZ EEP UR EYES OPEN

thnx

[InnocentCriminal]

XD

Will do...

UPDATE: 'ere you go, I suggest trying it yourself on the Canadian Google.

[Atom_Anti]

Originally Posted by InnocentCriminal

they may release a 3870 once the 3850 have started selling.

Do you mean they may release 3870 AGP too?

[Scrizz]

omfg who wants my x1950GT agp?

[intel igent]

@ inocent : i know google is my friend 2 but hes not playing nice

where did you hear that they may produce the 3870?

@ atom : that is what innocent is suggesting

[InnocentCriminal]

Well, I'm going on my own gut feeling. SOD's law has it, that if I buy a 3850 they'll release an even better 3850 or they'll release a 3870. I haven't read anywhere that they will be, but I can't help but think that's what will happen.

[intel igent]

well i dot think ill be taking any chances

[Morgoth]

Originally Posted by intel igent

i dont undersyand german no international shipping? would be nice to find one in N/A

hehe if i want to ican order that card right now but now i want the sapphire version ^^

[Atom_Anti]

Originally Posted by Morgoth

hehe if i want to ican order that card right now but now i want the sapphire version ^^

They have sapphire version too:
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a305727.html

[Morgoth]

stupid company doest ship to netherlands... i mailed azerty.nl

[intel igent]

Originally Posted by Morgoth

hehe if i want to ican order that card right now but now i want the sapphire version ^^

hows about you order it and for the shipping info just give them my address

bring it overseas retailers!