3850 AGP OC'ing, Vmods, experiences, suggestions, where to buy - Page 24

eidairaman1 · Jun 22, 2008, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intel igent

woop's i missed it bro

i also remember back in the day some card's had artifacting problem's because the HSF's were fastened to tightly, just a thought

you mean warping the board

InnocentCriminal · Jun 22, 2008, 10:07 AM

Anyone experiencing any BSODs with the 8.6's when you OC? I can't seem to get anywhere near my previous OC. Sucks donkey dog balls.

Widjaja · Jun 22, 2008, 12:35 PM

May as well stick with the previous drivers then.
I still use 7.12 with my X1950pro.

LoWRiDeR82 · Jun 22, 2008, 12:53 PM

I was getting non stop BSODS when i launched games with the 8.6 Beta,but the 8.6 agp fix released later didn't give me those problems

InnocentCriminal · Jun 22, 2008, 03:24 PM

I've had to go back to the 8.5's as the 8.6's set just kept screwing me over. Massive fucking shame as the 35% increase in CoD 4 I was really looking forward to.

LoWRiDeR82 · Jun 22, 2008, 03:25 PM

Innocent this is strange 'cause i've looked online and noone has had problems with the 8.6 drivers.Are you using the 8.6 normal version,or the hotfixed for agp?If you are using the normal 8.6
go here and download the 8.6 agp hotfixed..

http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...estionID=31542

the normal 8.6 gave bsod's to me as well

intel igent · Jun 22, 2008, 03:25 PM

i'm still running the driver's off of the CD without any problem's

InnocentCriminal · Jun 22, 2008, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoWRiDeR82

Innocent this is strange 'cause i've looked online and noone has had problems with the 8.6 drivers.Are you using the 8.6 normal version,or the hotfixed for agp?If you are using the normal 8.6
go here and download the 8.6 agp hotfixed..it says 8.5 but they are actually the 8.6

http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...estionID=31542

the normal 8.6 gave bsod's to me as well

Hotfix as the normal drivers don't work with AGP cards.

LoWRiDeR82 · Jun 22, 2008, 03:28 PM

Ok then why don't you give it a shot "force" installing the 8.6 normal drivers?Maybe those will work for you

InnocentCriminal · Jun 22, 2008, 03:31 PM

I doubt it, but it's worth a shot in the mouth. How would I go about Force installing these bad boys then?

LoWRiDeR82 · Jun 22, 2008, 03:33 PM

You uninstall what you have and drivercleaner and all that shit
then you launch the 8.6 normal installer,it will unpack files in some directory (C:/ATI or smthing)
then when it says "unable to detect driver blabla" you raise your middle finger towards your monitor, go to your device manager,right click the VGA adapter,update driver,select specific location,look for the INF folder in that C:/ATI directory if I remember correctly and hit ok.If it's not that folder try them all from the ATI dir,it's either driver,or inf dir.Make sure you uninstall the previous drivers totally otherwise it doesn't work

Hope it helps

InnocentCriminal · Jun 22, 2008, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoWRiDeR82

You uninstall what you have and drivercleaner and all that shit
then you launch the 8.6 normal installer,it will unpack files in some directory (C:/ATI or smthing)
then when it says "unable to detect driver blabla" you raise your middle finger towards your monitor, go to your device manager,right click the VGA adapter,update driver,select specific location,look for the INF folder in that C:/ATI directory if I remember correctly and hit ok.If it's not that folder try them all from the ATI dir,it's either driver,or inf dir.Make sure you uninstall the previous drivers totally otherwise it doesn't work

Hope it helps

You know me so well.

Arrh you mean a manual install. Might as well give that a shot in the mouth when I can actually be bothered. So far the 8.5's are working flawlessly. I'm going to push my GFX OC again now and see if I can beat my last 3DMark06 score. Which was 9320 or something.

Widjaja · Jun 23, 2008, 02:11 AM

The stuttering you are getting in COD4 may be related to the 3850 and 3870 x2 possibly at high res.
I have all eye candy on at 1024 X 768 on the X1950pro AGP with 7.12cat and have only had minimal stutter.
Worse time was heading back to the helicopter on the first mission.

InnocentCriminal · Jun 23, 2008, 08:15 AM

Well messin' with my RAM timings didn't help.

I'm going to have to drive a different driver set for the Audigy as well, haven't had much luck with Beta drivers recently.

Any news Low?

LoWRiDeR82 · Jun 23, 2008, 08:29 AM

Still waiting for the adaptor

InnocentCriminal · Jun 23, 2008, 09:41 AM

Arrrh fair enough.

Widjaja · Jun 23, 2008, 11:46 AM

Different driver for the Audigy?
I only know of two.
I have the version which came with the ZS, which has all these extra enhancements compared to the driver you get on the Creative website but since I don't use them I just used the ones of the site since they are newer.
Didn't notice any difference though.

InnocentCriminal · Jun 23, 2008, 11:51 AM

Yeah, I was using the latest beta from their site I think. I get weird crackling and hissing sounds. I also get audio looping when I blue screen, which should be happening at all.

intel igent · Jun 23, 2008, 12:18 PM

my audio driver's workin' fine over here

original one's off of the driver disc as well

InnocentCriminal · Jun 23, 2008, 12:35 PM

Yeah see I didn't have the original drivers so I tried the very latest which were beta drivers. I'll be trying the last non-beta set tonight to see if that makes any difference.

2.74GHz is the highest I can get, don't really want to loosen timings anymore than they already are.

3-4-4-10 (2T) will be the best I can get.

Widjaja · Jun 23, 2008, 12:54 PM

I wasn't even aware there was BETA drivers out for the ZS.
Since when wer'e there BETAs?

I don't ever trust BETA drivers anyway.

Those RAM timings are loose alright.
My ABIT AV8 motherboard has issues with running my PARTIOT LLK RAM at it's standard timings without system issues.
I have to change the CL to 2.5 to make it run flawless and can only go up to 2.6Ghz at 2.5-3-2-5 1T.

intel igent · Jun 23, 2008, 04:28 PM

innocent your RAM should hold 3/4/4/8 1t up to 250MHz........

InnocentCriminal · Jun 23, 2008, 10:05 PM

Not 1T...

Not stable at 1T with any settings. Craptastic.

intel igent · Jun 23, 2008, 11:12 PM

have you tried the RAM in another board?

InnocentCriminal · Jun 23, 2008, 11:36 PM

Yeah, fuckin' owned in my Shuttle SN95G5. Got to 2.7GHz on stock voltage, RAM and CPU and the timings were 3-3-3-8 (2T).

I miss my Shuttle.

Hopefully I get my friend's Opteron 170 tomorrow. That should make a difference in my score and shit.

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Jun 22, 2008, 10:07 AM	#577
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Anyone experiencing any BSODs with the 8.6's when you OC? I can't seem to get anywhere near my previous OC. Sucks donkey dog balls. __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

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Jun 22, 2008, 12:35 PM	#578
Widjaja Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wangas, New Zealand Posts: 4,017 (1.85/day) Thanks: 239 Thanked 617 Times in 534 Posts System Specs	May as well stick with the previous drivers then. I still use 7.12 with my X1950pro.

Jun 22, 2008, 12:53 PM	#579
LoWRiDeR82 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 143 (0.08/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts System Specs	I was getting non stop BSODS when i launched games with the 8.6 Beta,but the 8.6 agp fix released later didn't give me those problems

Jun 22, 2008, 03:24 PM	#580
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	I've had to go back to the 8.5's as the 8.6's set just kept screwing me over. Massive fucking shame as the 35% increase in CoD 4 I was really looking forward to. __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

Jun 22, 2008, 03:25 PM	#581
LoWRiDeR82 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 143 (0.08/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts System Specs	Innocent this is strange 'cause i've looked online and noone has had problems with the 8.6 drivers.Are you using the 8.6 normal version,or the hotfixed for agp?If you are using the normal 8.6 go here and download the 8.6 agp hotfixed.. http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...estionID=31542 the normal 8.6 gave bsod's to me as well

Jun 22, 2008, 03:25 PM	#582
intel igent Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,242 (1.12/day) Thanks: 453 Thanked 445 Times in 413 Posts System Specs	i'm still running the driver's off of the CD without any problem's

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Jun 22, 2008, 03:28 PM	#584
LoWRiDeR82 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 143 (0.08/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts System Specs	Ok then why don't you give it a shot "force" installing the 8.6 normal drivers?Maybe those will work for you

Jun 22, 2008, 03:31 PM	#585
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	I doubt it, but it's worth a shot in the mouth. How would I go about Force installing these bad boys then? __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

Jun 22, 2008, 03:33 PM	#586
LoWRiDeR82 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 143 (0.08/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts System Specs	You uninstall what you have and drivercleaner and all that shit then you launch the 8.6 normal installer,it will unpack files in some directory (C:/ATI or smthing) then when it says "unable to detect driver blabla" you raise your middle finger towards your monitor, go to your device manager,right click the VGA adapter,update driver,select specific location,look for the INF folder in that C:/ATI directory if I remember correctly and hit ok.If it's not that folder try them all from the ATI dir,it's either driver,or inf dir.Make sure you uninstall the previous drivers totally otherwise it doesn't work Hope it helps

Jun 23, 2008, 02:11 AM	#588
Widjaja Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wangas, New Zealand Posts: 4,017 (1.85/day) Thanks: 239 Thanked 617 Times in 534 Posts System Specs	The stuttering you are getting in COD4 may be related to the 3850 and 3870 x2 possibly at high res. I have all eye candy on at 1024 X 768 on the X1950pro AGP with 7.12cat and have only had minimal stutter. Worse time was heading back to the helicopter on the first mission.

Jun 23, 2008, 08:15 AM	#589
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Well messin' with my RAM timings didn't help. I'm going to have to drive a different driver set for the Audigy as well, haven't had much luck with Beta drivers recently. Any news Low? __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

Jun 23, 2008, 08:29 AM	#590
LoWRiDeR82 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 143 (0.08/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts System Specs	Still waiting for the adaptor

Jun 23, 2008, 09:41 AM	#591
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Arrrh fair enough. __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

Jun 23, 2008, 11:46 AM	#592
Widjaja Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wangas, New Zealand Posts: 4,017 (1.85/day) Thanks: 239 Thanked 617 Times in 534 Posts System Specs	Different driver for the Audigy? I only know of two. I have the version which came with the ZS, which has all these extra enhancements compared to the driver you get on the Creative website but since I don't use them I just used the ones of the site since they are newer. Didn't notice any difference though.

Jun 23, 2008, 11:51 AM	#593
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Yeah, I was using the latest beta from their site I think. I get weird crackling and hissing sounds. I also get audio looping when I blue screen, which should be happening at all. __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

Jun 23, 2008, 12:18 PM	#594
intel igent Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,242 (1.12/day) Thanks: 453 Thanked 445 Times in 413 Posts System Specs	my audio driver's workin' fine over here original one's off of the driver disc as well

Jun 23, 2008, 12:35 PM	#595
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Yeah see I didn't have the original drivers so I tried the very latest which were beta drivers. I'll be trying the last non-beta set tonight to see if that makes any difference. 2.74GHz is the highest I can get, don't really want to loosen timings anymore than they already are. 3-4-4-10 (2T) will be the best I can get. __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

Jun 23, 2008, 12:54 PM	#596
Widjaja Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wangas, New Zealand Posts: 4,017 (1.85/day) Thanks: 239 Thanked 617 Times in 534 Posts System Specs	I wasn't even aware there was BETA drivers out for the ZS. Since when wer'e there BETAs? I don't ever trust BETA drivers anyway. Those RAM timings are loose alright. My ABIT AV8 motherboard has issues with running my PARTIOT LLK RAM at it's standard timings without system issues. I have to change the CL to 2.5 to make it run flawless and can only go up to 2.6Ghz at 2.5-3-2-5 1T.

Jun 23, 2008, 04:28 PM	#597
intel igent Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,242 (1.12/day) Thanks: 453 Thanked 445 Times in 413 Posts System Specs	innocent your RAM should hold 3/4/4/8 1t up to 250MHz........

Jun 23, 2008, 10:05 PM	#598
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Not 1T... Not stable at 1T with any settings. Craptastic. __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

Jun 23, 2008, 11:12 PM	#599
intel igent Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,242 (1.12/day) Thanks: 453 Thanked 445 Times in 413 Posts System Specs	have you tried the RAM in another board?

Jun 23, 2008, 11:36 PM	#600
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Yeah, fuckin' owned in my Shuttle SN95G5. Got to 2.7GHz on stock voltage, RAM and CPU and the timings were 3-3-3-8 (2T). I miss my Shuttle. Hopefully I get my friend's Opteron 170 tomorrow. That should make a difference in my score and shit. __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

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