3850 AGP OC'ing, Vmods, experiences, suggestions, where to buy - Page 32

InnocentCriminal · Nov 4, 2008, 11:55 AM

Have you set the card to run at 8x in your motherboard BIOS and not through CCC?

DTV DRAGON · Nov 4, 2008, 11:57 AM

yes it had always been set to 8x in bios this just started to happen about 1 month ago I cant see why

DTV DRAGON · Nov 4, 2008, 12:33 PM

actuall had a look in bios now and there wasnt any place to change from 8x to 4x etc.. but it runs perfect in 4x for kicks this morning i set it back to 8x and ran a lightmark bench and made it through for about 8 seconds then froze but it back to 4x and ran through with good score ,iam now going to try and run a 3dmark05 later to see if i can get through that and what type of score i get I guess being stable at 4x is ok but i want my 8x back like it used to be wonder what happened for this to only run in 4x wierd Dragon

DTV DRAGON · Nov 6, 2008, 02:35 AM

one question iam i better off getting a connector that goes from my 6 pin pci e to a 8 pin pcie connector that would work on my hd3850 card? or just use the supplied two- 4 pin connector to 8 pin pcie connector? wich would supply more power
as an update its running excellent with 8.6 catalyst drivers and agp 4x. my top 3dmark05 score is 10100 wich was evern higher than what it used to be when it ran on 8x so i see no decrease in performance whatsoever please chime in you experts thanx Dragon

InnocentCriminal · Nov 6, 2008, 09:01 AM

Even though the 3850 is fine with only a 6pin connector, I've always used the 8pin.

InnocentCriminal · Dec 10, 2008, 06:06 PM

For those of you with the AGP version of the 3850 and want to get these and 8.11's to install, this is whatcha have to do...

1.) Extract the driver package, you can run it as it'll fail anyway...

2.) Open the file INSTALL.ini in your ATi directory e.g. C:\ATI\SUPPORT\8-12_xp32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_72271\Driver\

3.) Find the following text 0x9505:0x25421002 and replace it with 0x9515:0x0028174B - save!

4.) Now, in the same directory, open the CX_70226.INI file and do the same as option 3. Replace 0x9505:0x25421002 with 0x9515:0x0028174B.

5.) Now go to the XP_INF folder and open the CX_70226.INF file and find "ATI Radeon HD 3850" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_25421002 entry and replace 9505&SUBSYS_25421002 with 9515&SUBSYS_0028174B.

6.) Once you've made all these changes, don't extract the files again as your efforts will be other written, just run the setup file that's already been extracted.

This is actually the 8.12 RC3, I'll update this at some point.

Now it should install flawlessly on your 3850 AGP - if people want me to do earlier cards PM and I'll do what I can.

Enjoy!

k0rn_h0li0 · Dec 13, 2008, 02:53 AM

got the card today.

put it in and used the cd that came with it. i think it was 8.6?

didn't do anything with it cause i'm reading all these posts with people who have problems.

i tried to convert a movie and it only gave me 70fps. currently 2.4ghz opteron 240 with 2gigs of ECC ram.

note: i didn't put my 2nd core in my other cpu2 slot. anyone have any ideas on what i can do with this card?

i see a lot of people trying to do soemthing with 8.1?? what are you guys attempting?

InnocentCriminal · Dec 13, 2008, 08:31 AM

Try the new 8.12 hotfix you'll need to download the AVIVO separately I would have thought.

instron · Dec 20, 2008, 05:28 AM

i just found the sweet spot for my powercolor hd3850 agp,i had to set it to 4x in smartgart
but in the bios i changed the hex number in the agp strength to c2 and now it runs stable
in 8x and a merry christmas to me

.my chipset is a via kt800.Hopefully that hex number will work for others if not it shows that you can fix the problem with that example.when i let the
bios figure it i got 9b.

Mailman · Dec 21, 2008, 02:05 PM

I too have a via chipset (KV8T800Pro). What driver(s) work with your Powercolor HD3850 AGP card. Much of the advice I have seen is steering me away from the powercolor card to the sapphire card (because of the Via MB issues reported in some forums). Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Edit: What does changing the agp strength to c2 actually do?

System: Athlon64 3400+, 1.25 GB RAM, XP Home.

instron · Dec 21, 2008, 03:44 PM

Im using the 8.12 drivers and the c2 im using is in my bios for agp strength.the reason i looked for a fix was i couldnt get above 4x in the smartgart tab without crashing,so it as i see it raising it 2 hex numbers raised the agp signal enough to make the 8x smartgart work.It works
flawlessly in every game i tried,as far as benchmarks i seen very little boost but as far as
texturing it looks a lot better.I need to know if anybody has a file called atiokax.dll in windows
system with a single hd3850.and yes i know the file is for a hd3850x2.

DRDNA · Jan 7, 2009, 03:33 PM

lol...This card is an easy to notice faster than my X850XT PE ! I am using the ATI driver and CCC >>8-12agp-hotfix_xp32_dd_ccc_72281 installed right over the top of the Normal 8.12 suite . I am also using RivaTuner222 .All is working very well so far.
I am using RivaTuner for fan control(100%) and GPU overclocks 799/1001 .
The 799/1001 brings GPU up to 55-57 C° at friggin idle...

...but the plus about the temps is while gaming (NFSMW) max and the likes is only 62 C° max

...Well now all is working but the set up is a bit different than any other ATI card as for the software ...I like ATITOOL.exe better than Riva but thats probably more due to my comfort level with ATITOOL as its always been a very good friend to me and every one of my set ups such as my first 9600XT then my X800XT PE then my X850XT PE then my X1800XTX Single then my X1800XTX crossfire then my X1950XTX Single then my X1950XTX crossfire And then my (I have not set it up on my HD 4870 X2 yest as its down waiting for a part to come back from rma) and now this 3850 AG is the only one for which i do not use the ATITOOL

but at least every thing is working and as usual no horror experience with using an ATI card.

kiriakost · Jan 16, 2009, 11:39 PM

I have my Sapphire 3850 AGP on order...
And i like to know if possible , what are the most accurate software to monitor the GPU temperature ?

My question are not generic , does the latest driver release favors any temperature monitor application more than others ?

By the way .. the driver 8-12agp-hotfix_xp32_dd_ccc_72281 , has other structure as files,
and the above method of editing files, are not possible.

The success story of DRDNA , shows that the 8-12agp-hotfix , its a large step of progress comparing the past releases .

InnocentCriminal · Jan 18, 2009, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiriakost

I have my Sapphire 3850 AGP on order...
And i like to know if possible , what are the most accurate software to monitor the GPU temperature ?

I use a multitude of programs to monitor my temperatures, GPU-Z, Hardware Monitor, Speedfan and RivaTuner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiriakost

My question are not generic , does the latest driver release favors any temperature monitor application more than others ?

I haven't seen any improvement in CCC when it comes to temperature reading.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiriakost

By the way .. the driver 8-12agp-hotfix_xp32_dd_ccc_72281 , has other structure as files,
and the above method of editing files, are not possible.

That's because it's not for the AGP hotfix, the whole point of my tutorial is for installing the, if you will, PCIe drivers. It would completely defeat the point to enable AGP support in a AGP hotfix.

;P

The success story of DRDNA , shows that the 8-12agp-hotfix , its a large step of progress comparing the past releases .

[/QUOTE]

kiriakost · Jan 18, 2009, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InnocentCriminal

That's because it's not for the AGP hotfix, the whole point of my tutorial is for installing the, if you will, PCIe drivers. It would completely defeat the point to enable AGP support in a AGP hotfix.

;P

Ok , i got it , i had to read three times the text , but i did ..

In simple words, "PCIe drivers fix" for use on AGP systems.

But this time, ATI - AMD gave both releases simultaneously ( driver 8-12) ,
so there no need for any fix tip..

But thanks , its good to know .

eidairaman1 · Jan 19, 2009, 03:18 AM

Hey man the 8.12 Hotfix drivers work for my machine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by InnocentCriminal

I use a multitude of programs to monitor my temperatures, GPU-Z, Hardware Monitor, Speedfan and RivaTuner.

I haven't seen any improvement in CCC when it comes to temperature reading.

That's because it's not for the AGP hotfix, the whole point of my tutorial is for installing the, if you will, PCIe drivers. It would completely defeat the point to enable AGP support in a AGP hotfix.

;P

The success story of DRDNA , shows that the 8-12agp-hotfix , its a large step of progress comparing the past releases .

[/QUOTE]

kiriakost · Jan 22, 2009, 10:20 PM

Got my card today

i act all day, like a small child from my enthusiasm .

I have so much positive to say , but i will stay to basics

I have one old but very healthy - speedy - top components - setup .
The Sapphire HD 3850 replaced my old powerful MSI 6800GT , one of the most expensive VGA in this class. (357 EUR before three years )

The truth is that this VGA upgrade was made just from emotional reasons than need , the Nvidia had play any game that i had throw at it at 1024x768 with out filters.

The New ..
Loaded the drivers , no problems at all.
I selected to use also the CCC , as its something totally new to me.
I liked that it controls the fan , i never had fan control on VGA until today

I explored the ATI Overdrive and got core speed 709 + mem speed 860

Temperature and cooler .
External temp 17C
Room temp 21C
Idle 37 - 41C
Load 65-70C
Cooler noise on idle = not bad
Cooler noise on load , gets suppressed by the CPU fan.

3Dmark 06 5567 marks HD3850
3Dmark 06 2400 marks 6800GT

Oblivion - 1600x1200 default quality settings 30-60 FPS Ammaaazziinngg

Oblivion - 1600x1200 default quality settings + HDR 30-60 FPS

COD5 - 1600x1200 default quality settings 25-40 PFS

3Dmark 06 - fps at 1024x768 22 - 32 ( its the first 3Dmark score that i get with good numbers until now , in my life ) .
Explanation .. 3Dmark was always in front of the current hardware, so i had use to,
getting sluggish scores , and low FPS .
All my tests was on VGA stock clocks.

The card its on my box , for only 6 hours , and i will need some time to get full control of it.

So far i am very happy with the current horse power , its more than double , than before.

lemonadesoda · Jan 22, 2009, 10:41 PM

kiri,

you might be interested in this thread: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=57401

some benchmarks there. see how you compare.

You can get 750/1000 clocks on AGP 3850 with a decent aftermarket cooler!

(manual not autodrive)

kiriakost · Jan 22, 2009, 10:45 PM

Thanks man , nice link

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

kiri,

(manual not autodrive)

kiriakost · Jan 27, 2009, 03:53 AM

Looks that my Sapphire AGP card came with new Bios on it ...

Also looks to be stepped down in memory clocks , than older releases .

I had not remove the cooler to see what memory chips haves .
I spent mostly time to check if it is healthy as is , and it is .

When i load my Bios to RBE it show 830 Mhz memory speed ??? at boot .

Here is the GPU Z screen .
Notice : it register it self with PCIe ID .. Adding complete driver compatibility , with any Catalyst PCIe or AGP version.

B_RoDaS · Jan 29, 2009, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiriakost

Looks that my Sapphire AGP card came with new Bios on it ...

Also looks to be stepped down in memory clocks , than older releases .

I had not remove the cooler to see what memory chips haves .
I spent mostly time to check if it is healthy as is , and it is .

When i load my Bios to RBE it show 830 Mhz memory speed ??? at boot .

Here is the GPU Z screen .
Notice : it register it self with PCIe ID .. Adding complete driver compatibility , with any Catalyst PCIe or AGP version.

My sapphire has the same bios...the memory chips are hynix H5RS5223CFR-N0C rated at 1000mhz.

But I don't now why I only can oc mem at 792mhz (AtiTool Stable). Maybe there are any bios problem or simply memory chips are in undervoltage.

kiriakost can you tell what's your max stable memory oc?

I'm curious if my card has any problem or it is really the max that memory chips can do.

kiriakost · Jan 30, 2009, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_RoDaS

My sapphire has the same bios...the memory chips are hynix H5RS5223CFR-N0C rated at 1000mhz.

But I don't now why I only can oc mem at 792mhz (AtiTool Stable). Maybe there are any bios problem or simply memory chips are in undervoltage.

kiriakost can you tell what's your max stable memory oc?

I'm curious if my card has any problem or it is really the max that memory chips can do.

Hi friend , define the word " stable " ?

B_RoDaS · Jan 30, 2009, 12:35 AM

Hi! without artifacts.

My also card also says passed on ATI overdrive at 950mhz. But for example in 3dmark 06 I see "strange things" with a memory clock like that. I'm using Atitool artifact scanner to test it.

kiriakost · Jan 30, 2009, 04:54 AM

ATI tool 0.26 does not load on my system with Catalyst 8.12 (even with CCC removal)

So i can not help you .

JrRacinFan · Jan 30, 2009, 05:00 AM

@B RoDaS
Try using Furmark for stability.

Nov 4, 2008, 11:55 AM	#776
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Have you set the card to run at 8x in your motherboard BIOS and not through CCC? __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

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System Name:	family system
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PSU:	thermaltake 850 watt modular (new version, single rail)
Software:	Windows 7, 64 ult.
Benchmarks:	vantage E47428 3DMARK06 23290 needs updateing

System Name:	family system
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Motherboard:	gigabyte EP45T-USB3P ( new board)
Cooling:	custom cpu and gpu cooling
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Nov 4, 2008, 11:57 AM	#777
DTV DRAGON Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: canada Posts: 874 (0.48/day) Thanks: 141 Thanked 64 Times in 56 Posts System Specs	yes it had always been set to 8x in bios this just started to happen about 1 month ago I cant see why

Nov 4, 2008, 12:33 PM	#778
DTV DRAGON Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: canada Posts: 874 (0.48/day) Thanks: 141 Thanked 64 Times in 56 Posts System Specs	actuall had a look in bios now and there wasnt any place to change from 8x to 4x etc.. but it runs perfect in 4x for kicks this morning i set it back to 8x and ran a lightmark bench and made it through for about 8 seconds then froze but it back to 4x and ran through with good score ,iam now going to try and run a 3dmark05 later to see if i can get through that and what type of score i get I guess being stable at 4x is ok but i want my 8x back like it used to be wonder what happened for this to only run in 4x wierd Dragon

Nov 6, 2008, 02:35 AM	#779
DTV DRAGON Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: canada Posts: 874 (0.48/day) Thanks: 141 Thanked 64 Times in 56 Posts System Specs	one question iam i better off getting a connector that goes from my 6 pin pci e to a 8 pin pcie connector that would work on my hd3850 card? or just use the supplied two- 4 pin connector to 8 pin pcie connector? wich would supply more power as an update its running excellent with 8.6 catalyst drivers and agp 4x. my top 3dmark05 score is 10100 wich was evern higher than what it used to be when it ran on 8x so i see no decrease in performance whatsoever please chime in you experts thanx Dragon

Nov 6, 2008, 09:01 AM	#780
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Even though the 3850 is fine with only a 6pin connector, I've always used the 8pin. __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

Dec 10, 2008, 06:06 PM	#781
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	For those of you with the AGP version of the 3850 and want to get these and 8.11's to install, this is whatcha have to do... 1.) Extract the driver package, you can run it as it'll fail anyway... 2.) Open the file *INSTALL.ini* in your ATi directory e.g. C:\ATI\SUPPORT\8-12_xp32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_72271\Driver\ 3.) Find the following text 0x9505:0x25421002 and replace it with *0x9515:0x0028174B* - save! 4.) Now, in the same directory, open the *CX_70226.INI* file and do the same as option 3. Replace 0x9505:0x25421002 with *0x9515:0x0028174B. 5.) Now go to the XP_INF* folder and open the *CX_70226.INF* file and find *"ATI Radeon HD 3850" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_25421002* entry and replace 9505&SUBSYS_25421002 with *9515&SUBSYS_0028174B.* 6.) Once you've made all these changes, don't extract the files again as your efforts will be other written, just run the setup file that's already been extracted. This is actually the 8.12 RC3, I'll update this at some point. Now it should install flawlessly on your 3850 AGP - if people want me to do earlier cards PM and I'll do what I can. Enjoy! __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."*

Dec 13, 2008, 02:53 AM	#782
k0rn_h0li0 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hometown CALI, Current WI. Posts: 1,170 (0.51/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 47 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	got the card today. put it in and used the cd that came with it. i think it was 8.6? didn't do anything with it cause i'm reading all these posts with people who have problems. i tried to convert a movie and it only gave me 70fps. currently 2.4ghz opteron 240 with 2gigs of ECC ram. note: i didn't put my 2nd core in my other cpu2 slot. anyone have any ideas on what i can do with this card? i see a lot of people trying to do soemthing with 8.1?? what are you guys attempting? __________________ “woah pump the brakes santa isnt real?!” -Solaris17 HEATWARE Last edited by k0rn_h0li0; Dec 13, 2008 at 05:48 AM.

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Dec 13, 2008, 08:31 AM	#783
InnocentCriminal Resident Grammar Amender Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 'ereyfurd, UK Posts: 5,471 (1.82/day) Thanks: 198 Thanked 855 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Try the new 8.12 hotfix you'll need to download the AVIVO separately I would have thought. __________________ *Post count isn't* an intelligence meter. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you. Musek*: "InnocentCriminal - a Chuck Norris of the TPU - knows what you are about to type and he WILL type it faster than you."* Last edited by InnocentCriminal; Dec 20, 2008 at 04:43 PM.

Dec 20, 2008, 05:28 AM	#784
instron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 53 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	i just found the sweet spot for my powercolor hd3850 agp,i had to set it to 4x in smartgart but in the bios i changed the hex number in the agp strength to c2 and now it runs stable in 8x and a merry christmas to me.my chipset is a via kt800.Hopefully that hex number will work for others if not it shows that you can fix the problem with that example.when i let the bios figure it i got 9b.

Dec 21, 2008, 02:05 PM	#785
Mailman Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	I too have a via chipset (KV8T800Pro). What driver(s) work with your Powercolor HD3850 AGP card. Much of the advice I have seen is steering me away from the powercolor card to the sapphire card (because of the Via MB issues reported in some forums). Your thoughts would be appreciated. Edit: What does changing the agp strength to c2 actually do? System: Athlon64 3400+, 1.25 GB RAM, XP Home. Last edited by Mailman; Dec 21, 2008 at 02:07 PM. Reason: Additional specs listing

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Dec 21, 2008, 03:44 PM	#786
instron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 53 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Im using the 8.12 drivers and the c2 im using is in my bios for agp strength.the reason i looked for a fix was i couldnt get above 4x in the smartgart tab without crashing,so it as i see it raising it 2 hex numbers raised the agp signal enough to make the 8x smartgart work.It works flawlessly in every game i tried,as far as benchmarks i seen very little boost but as far as texturing it looks a lot better.I need to know if anybody has a file called atiokax.dll in windows system with a single hd3850.and yes i know the file is for a hd3850x2.

Jan 7, 2009, 03:33 PM	#787
DRDNA Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 4,122 (1.56/day) Thanks: 612 Thanked 494 Times in 424 Posts System Specs	lol...This card is an easy to notice faster than my X850XT PE ! I am using the ATI driver and CCC >>8-12agp-hotfix_xp32_dd_ccc_72281 installed right over the top of the Normal 8.12 suite . I am also using RivaTuner222 .All is working very well so far. I am using RivaTuner for fan control(100%) and GPU overclocks 799/1001 . The 799/1001 brings GPU up to 55-57 C° at friggin idle... ...but the plus about the temps is while gaming (NFSMW) max and the likes is only 62 C° max...Well now all is working but the set up is a bit different than any other ATI card as for the software ...I like ATITOOL.exe better than Riva but thats probably more due to my comfort level with ATITOOL as its always been a very good friend to me and every one of my set ups such as my first 9600XT then my X800XT PE then my X850XT PE then my X1800XTX Single then my X1800XTX crossfire then my X1950XTX Single then my X1950XTX crossfire And then my (I have not set it up on my HD 4870 X2 yest as its down waiting for a part to come back from rma) and now this 3850 AG is the only one for which i do not use the ATITOOL but at least every thing is working and as usual no horror experience with using an ATI card. __________________ Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58/ i7-920CO@4.2GHZ 24/7 <> CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600.<> ThermalTake ToughPower 1200 WATT PSU 2X ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB DDR5 <> Asetek Liquid CPU Cooling System 320GBx4 Perpendicular RAID-0/BLU-RAY/HD-DVD Reader / DVD±R/±RW Writer LG 50" 50PK550 1080p 600Hz Plasma/WestingHouse 37 inch @1920X1080/Windows 7 Pro/64

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Processor:	i7-920 CO@4.2GHZ
Motherboard:	Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58
Cooling:	Asetek Liquid CPU Cooling System
Memory:	CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600
Video Card:	2X ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI-Express
Hard Disk:	(RAID-0) with 4 Identical Hard Drives (1.28TB (320GBx4)
Optical Drive:	LG BLU-RAY/HD-DVD Reader / DVD±R/±RW Writer
CRT/LCD Model:	LG 50" 50PK550 1080p 600Hz Plasma/37 Inch WestingHouse @1920x1080
Case:	Thermaltake M9 (I hate it its like trying to live in a 1 inch box)
PSU:	ThermalTake ToughPower 1200 Watt
Software:	Windows 7 professional 64

Jan 16, 2009, 11:39 PM	#788
kiriakost Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Volos, Greece Posts: 848 (0.53/day) Thanks: 30 Thanked 72 Times in 65 Posts System Specs	I have my Sapphire 3850 AGP on order... And i like to know if possible , what are the most accurate software to monitor the GPU temperature ? My question are not generic , does the latest driver release favors any temperature monitor application more than others ? By the way .. the driver 8-12agp-hotfix_xp32_dd_ccc_72281 , has other structure as files, and the above method of editing files, are not possible. The success story of DRDNA , shows that the 8-12agp-hotfix , its a large step of progress comparing the past releases . Last edited by kiriakost; Jan 16, 2009 at 11:55 PM.

System Name:	ATLAS
Processor:	Q6600 QUAD
Motherboard:	ASUS P5QC
Cooling:	ProlimaTech Armageddon
Memory:	HYPER-X KHX1600C8D3T1K2 /4GX PC3-12800 1600MHz
Video Card:	Sapphire HD 5770 VAPOR-X
Hard Disk:	Raptors 73Gb - Raid1
Optical Drive:	Plextor 4012TA_ Samsung SH202N
CRT/LCD Model:	DELL U2311H
Case:	HEC Special moded ..
Sound Card:	X-Fi Music + mods Audigy front Panel (full working)
PSU:	HIPER 4M780 PE 980W Peak
Software:	XP PRO SP3

System Name:	BS03/04
Processor:	AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ 2.2GHz 1.5V
Motherboard:	DFI LanParty NFII Ultra-B Bios (TicTac 3D Fire R2)
Cooling:	4 Antec 80mm, TR SI-97 Adapted TT Big Typhoon Fan 120MM
Memory:	2GB Mushkin Redline 4000 @ 200 MHz 2.5V
Video Card:	Sapphire R1950Pro 512MB AGP 1.5V
Hard Disk:	250 & 400 GB Seagate Baracuda 10 SATA
Optical Drive:	2x Samsung Multiformat Rewritable Drives
CRT/LCD Model:	NEC Multisync LCD 1700V
Case:	Antec SX830 EATX Case
Sound Card:	Creative Labs SB XFi Xtreme Music & SB PCI 512
PSU:	Antec NEO HE 500 Watt
Software:	Windows 7 Home Premium
Benchmarks:	Win 7 Eval. CPU 3.9 Ram 4.5 Graphics 6.0 HD 5.7

Jan 22, 2009, 10:20 PM	#792
kiriakost Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Volos, Greece Posts: 848 (0.53/day) Thanks: 30 Thanked 72 Times in 65 Posts System Specs	Got my card today i act all day, like a small child from my enthusiasm . I have so much positive to say , but i will stay to basics I have one old but very healthy - speedy - top components - setup . The Sapphire HD 3850 replaced my old powerful MSI 6800GT , one of the most expensive VGA in this class. (357 EUR before three years ) The truth is that this VGA upgrade was made just from emotional reasons than need , the Nvidia had play any game that i had throw at it at 1024x768 with out filters. The New .. Loaded the drivers , no problems at all. I selected to use also the CCC , as its something totally new to me. I liked that it controls the fan , i never had fan control on VGA until today I explored the ATI Overdrive and got core speed 709 + mem speed 860 Temperature and cooler . External temp 17C Room temp 21C Idle 37 - 41C Load 65-70C Cooler noise on idle = not bad Cooler noise on load , gets suppressed by the CPU fan. 3Dmark 06 5567 marks HD3850 3Dmark 06 2400 marks 6800GT Oblivion - 1600x1200 default quality settings 30-60 FPS Ammaaazziinngg Oblivion - 1600x1200 default quality settings + HDR 30-60 FPS COD5 - 1600x1200 default quality settings 25-40 PFS 3Dmark 06 - fps at 1024x768 22 - 32 ( its the first 3Dmark score that i get with good numbers until now , in my life ) . Explanation .. 3Dmark was always in front of the current hardware, so i had use to, getting sluggish scores , and low FPS . All my tests was on VGA stock clocks. The card its on my box , for only 6 hours , and i will need some time to get full control of it. So far i am very happy with the current horse power , its more than double , than before.

Jan 22, 2009, 10:41 PM	#793
lemonadesoda Eligible for custom title Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,337 (2.17/day) Thanks: 749 Thanked 960 Times in 710 Posts System Specs	kiri, you might be interested in this thread: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=57401 some benchmarks there. see how you compare. You can get 750/1000 clocks on AGP 3850 with a decent aftermarket cooler! (manual not autodrive)

System Name:	ICE-QUAD // ICE-CRUNCH
Processor:	Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5472
Memory:	2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM
Video Card:	HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3400
CRT/LCD Model:	2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200
Sound Card:	Audigy 2
Software:	Windows Server 2003 R2 as a Workstation

Jan 27, 2009, 03:53 AM	#795
kiriakost Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Volos, Greece Posts: 848 (0.53/day) Thanks: 30 Thanked 72 Times in 65 Posts System Specs	Looks that my Sapphire AGP card came with new Bios on it ... Also looks to be stepped down in memory clocks , than older releases . I had not remove the cooler to see what memory chips haves . I spent mostly time to check if it is healthy as is , and it is . When i load my Bios to RBE it show 830 Mhz memory speed ??? at boot . Here is the GPU Z screen . Notice : it register it self with PCIe ID .. Adding complete driver compatibility , with any Catalyst PCIe or AGP version. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by kiriakost; Jan 27, 2009 at 10:12 PM.

Jan 30, 2009, 12:35 AM	#798
B_RoDaS Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi! without artifacts. My also card also says passed on ATI overdrive at 950mhz. But for example in 3dmark 06 I see "strange things" with a memory clock like that. I'm using Atitool artifact scanner to test it.

Jan 30, 2009, 04:54 AM	#799
kiriakost Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Volos, Greece Posts: 848 (0.53/day) Thanks: 30 Thanked 72 Times in 65 Posts System Specs	ATI tool 0.26 does not load on my system with Catalyst 8.12 (even with CCC removal) So i can not help you .

Jan 30, 2009, 05:00 AM	#800
JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.15/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	@B RoDaS Try using Furmark for stability. __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

System Name:	Mine; Hers; Our HTPC; NAS Box
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Motherboard:	Asrock Z68 Extreme4 : Asus P8P67 Pro : Asrock H61M/U3S3 : Dell
Cooling:	CM 212+ w/ scythe jyuni : Stock : Stock :Stock
Memory:	2x4GB Ripjawx 1866 cl9 : 2x2GB Corsair 1600 cl9 : 2x2GB Ridgebacks 1066 cl5 : 768MB PC3200
Video Card:	Palit GTX560Ti 2Gb : XFX HD5770 : Integrated : Integrated
Hard Disk:	2x 750GB Raid 0 + Maxtor 500GB : WD Black 1TB+Corsair Nova 2 64GB : Toshiba 750GB : Leftover ATA133
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