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Old Feb 1, 2008, 12:02 PM   #1
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Ive heard some people saying that you shouldnt put AS5 on a GPU

Ive also heard alot of good stuff about MX-2 & also zalmans T.grease.


so can anybody clarify why it isnt a good idea to use AS5 on a Gpu or can they suggest a good Tim.

spec is on the left - my graphics card aint the hotest I usually set the fan RPM to 50% always which makes the fan noise barely noticable.

the temps are average around 50'c & i try to keep it that way if not lower.
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I just replaced my thermal paste on my gpu with mx-2. My idle temps went down 5-6c. So its worth it I'd say
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You really should use Ceramique (aka MX-2) on a GPU because AS5 contains metal particles, which if they get between any of the metal parts you see on the GPU they will cause a short and fry your card.

MX2 is better than AS5 anyway from my own experience
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I have both of them (Arctic Cooling AS5 and MX-2). First there was a AS5 thermal compound on my GPU (7900GT), then I bought MX-2 and change it because it is new one and I want to test it. Unfortunately I didn,t take notes of the themperatures, but they are very similar.
There are few things that I know about Arctic AS5 and MX-2 from my own experience. First - MX-2 is non-conductive. This means that you don't have to worry about any electrical short circuit. It is a good thing for me especially when I am trying different CPU coolers. In this case I have to remove old thermal compound without pooling CPU out from the socket and there are always harden pieces of it all over my main board. Second - both compounds are easy to apply (previous MX-1 was very difficult to apply on GPU/CPU). AS5 sticks harder to the crystal, but both are easy to remove. In certain cases (could environment, greasy and not well cleaned crystals) MX-2 may slip over the ceramic surface - which is not good.
Both compounds are never to be renew when applied on GPU/CPU (8 years=never for me).
I did not experienced it but I know from the Internet that with temperatures above 80 degrees Celsius AS5 will dry very soon and will loose from it's thermo conductivity.
Arctic compounds are one of the best in quality. I can't decide which is better.
When it comes to price MX-2 is cheaper. In standard package MX-2 is weighted 4 grams and AS5 is 3.5 .
More info HIRE .

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I like to use AS Ceramique on all my GFX cards, chipsets, mosfets, and VRegs. Only because of conductivity and Ceramique has the longest lifespan of most thermal pastes.
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argh damn - I used AS5 on my X1800XT a while back :P it did help temps though!
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ive jusy got some MX-2 and im finding it a lil better then AS5, and as said earlier MX-2 is also a Ceramique, so its all ++++ with no -----
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i can tell u the best paste but its only good for several hours as it dries out too quick lol toothpaste and that aint a joke either. i use the zalman zm-stg1 my self i cant say weather its the best but it comes with a nice application brush and it works for me.
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talk in english idiot!
cant even read that, idiot?

Arctic Silver -5; Ceramique for its viscocity.
Ceramique recommended for memory heatsinks.

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cant even read that, idiot?

Arctic Silver -5; Ceramique for its viscocity.
Ceramique recommended for memory heatsinks.
why didnt you write it like that on the first place?

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why didnt you wrote it like that on the first place?
I didn't write it because in the question don't you see such geek tone? Gr4phics k4rds? I was answering him.

Oh. 4 also = for
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Lol. I see the teachings have come along nicely. Don't be mad at btarunr, I'll take responsibility for his 1337-speek.
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Cool it people.

It would be nice if everyone could use correct grammar and punctuation, but you can't expect everyone to put forth the effort.
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talk in english idiot!
A: We do not insult eachother here, next time I'll be infracting you.
B: It clearly was sarcasm towards the topic starter.
C: To the topic starter: we are not a 1337 h4x0r hideout, don't act like it is.
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I'm extremely sorry for this deviation. I had no malicious intentions, was just a little playful with the thread starter.

Let's proceed with helping the thread starter and his topic.
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ill btarunr after i saw the title i was gonna do the same thing to be sarcastic...


but at any rate ceramic i use it for everything better heat dissapation than AS5 you can use it everywhere were as AS5 isnt good to use on some components and the longevity is better. you dont need to reapply it as often.
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mx-2 is the best non conductive paste atm (bloody wusses), and like solaris says as5 performance goes downhill pretty quickly

besides the original poster has a g80, they have a heatspreader, so either is safe to use

edit: oh no he dosent lol, learn to read me!
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A: We do not insult eachother here, next time I'll be infracting you.
B: It clearly was sarcasm towards the topic starter.
C: To the topic starter: we are not a 1337 h4x0r hideout, don't act like it is.

My apologies. I was in a hurry - had a million things to do in & around the house & i wanted to get this topic up before i left the house & yes I do recognize this place as a house of hell rather then a '1337 h4x0r hideout' !!!!

im no h4x0r - just your everyday non commercial, non conglomerate, non shaving, non smoking pirate. : rolleyes:

anyway lets wrap this up before i get banned

thanks all for your replys -

so Mx-2 would be better on a GPU


but what if i wanted to grease my laptop up a little? would AS5 still kick ass or AS5?
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it wasnt intentional to offend. just to bring in his attention that not everyone knows his language
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Whats with these ceramique compounds??I dont still get it why we should use anything other than MX-2 which is far more reliable..Does RAMsinks needed to be applied ceramique?
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From experience, AS5's quality has just went plop. The performance of the paste degrades quickly as well. Anyway, AS5 on my 975X Chipset proved to be worse than the thermalright chill factor paste. I tested it countless times and always ended up with the Thermalright paste outdoing the AS5. AS5 also doesn't last very long as well-it does what the toothpaste does

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Ceramique is only useful for higher heat transfers.

Ramsinks? What the? RAM sinks use the thermal adhesive, with the thermal paste in the way, how are you supposed to even stick the ramsinks on if you used thermal paste?
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From experience, AS5's quality has just went plop. The performance of the paste degrades quickly as well. Anyway, AS5 on my 975X Chipset proved to be worse than the thermalright chill factor paste. I tested it countless times and always ended up with the Thermalright paste outdoing the AS5. AS5 also doesn't last very long as well-it does what the toothpaste does

I'd make a Beeline for MX2



Ceramique is only useful for higher heat transfers.

Ramsinks? What the? RAM sinks use the thermal adhesive, with the thermal paste in the way, how are you supposed to even stick the ramsinks on if you used thermal paste?
Thanks.I have seen places where RAM sinks are pasted with thermal paste too. Cheap bastards.:P Mostly with ceramique.
As I'm not yet clear on the subject must google it and find it out.
Editisnt got the higher heat transfer part.I mean a oxide cant beat the pure metal.When usually Zn/AL Oxide used in Ceramic compounds ,Metallics use pulverized silver or metal particals in them which is far more greater.After all heat transfer means you need to be able to move electrons inside the thing so metals are good at it.
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I've found AS5 to be great for long-term CPU cooling solutions, dunno why TK has had issues there, but results can vary and which makes his results no suprise. I've used AS5 on many CPU and GPU applications for long-term with positive results. Maybe not the best out there, but definately not the worst resutls. MX-2 is good stuff though, so go for the best "bang-for-the-buck" product.

For chipset cooling, if ya don't like mid-range temps or got an MB w/crappy chipset cooling, then fix it right with aftermarket coolers and use whatever goop you have available for use. Unless you're going for record setting, there's really no need to be too "specific" in the needs of performance TIM for anything but the CPU/GPU applications. I've found AS5 to work VERY WELL in my years of experience with it, along with AC MX-1.

MX-2 is newer stuff, and seems to be a good deal for optimal cooling TIM needs, if you can snag a good deal and maybe a better deal over the tried and true AS-5 then go for it. But remember results can vary as applications, cpus, gpus, humidity, temps, ambient temps, case airflow, cpu/gpu cooling, (and then some) can all affect your temps and cooling solutions and resuls.

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