UK homes to get super-fast fibre

choppy · Jan 23, 2008, 09:15 AM

yay finally we are on the verge of faster net! fuck you tiscali!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7202396.stm

"The UK's first "fibre town" could go online in the autumn, delivering speeds of about 100Mbps to consumers' homes. Fibre firm H20 provides super-fast broadband via the sewers and either Bournemouth, Northampton or Dundee will be offered the service first."

Triprift · Jan 23, 2008, 09:21 AM

arnt yous lucky were meant to be getting fibre to the node sometime in the future maybe at the moment my adsl 2+ and cable extreme are the fastest in oz wich is sad. Good for yous ill be so envious.

Gam'ster · Jan 23, 2008, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choppy

yay finally we are on the verge of faster net! fuck you tiscali!! "

LMAO

, but i dont even have cable were i live so tiscali will be screwing me for a while yet

, but its nice to see we are moving forward.

sheps999 · Jan 23, 2008, 09:46 AM

It'll still be about 10 years until all the major cities in the UK get fibre, though. BT'll want to hang onto the old copper, cos it'll probably lose money if everyone goes fibre.

xfire · Jan 23, 2008, 09:51 AM

100mbps.
Damn fastest we have is 2mbps.

choppy · Jan 23, 2008, 10:02 AM

theres adsl2+ in the uk, but atm its a bit glitchy and not everywhere, otherwise everybody is on "best efforts" adsl max which is around 4-5mbps for most. fibre wont be around here till time tho tbh, im giving it at least 5 yrs till widespread availability (if all goes well)

CarolinaKSU · Jan 23, 2008, 10:34 AM

And meanwhile, here in the US, ISP's want to punish us for taking advantage of our "fast" cable internet and downloading too much..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...011801335.html

And also a great opinion article from the New York Times that explains the ramifications of these bandwidth caps.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/0...ref=technology

Triprift · Jan 23, 2008, 10:41 AM

aww man thats crap thankfully they dont do that here in oz the worst we get is a few isps charging for uls.

Mussels · Jan 23, 2008, 10:44 AM

ADSL2 in aus sucks, even tho its available in certain areas, ISP's own each area so you cant just pick and choose like with ADSL1.

At least i get my 8Mb down, 384Kb up net, thats a lot better than some places.

Triprift · Jan 23, 2008, 10:51 AM

You got cable or adsl 1 mussels?

Mussels · Jan 23, 2008, 10:52 AM

adsl1, 60GB a month. tasty.

Triprift · Jan 23, 2008, 10:53 AM

adsl2+, 20 gig a month.

King Wookie · Jan 23, 2008, 11:16 AM

Try 4mb down, (in theory. Not seen it yet) and 3gb cap.

The joys of the dark continent.

Still, apparently getting a new undersea cable sometime middle next year.

btarunr · Jan 23, 2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xfire

100mbps.
Damn fastest we have is 2mbps.

Nope, it's 8 Mbps. I've got the DataOne Business 8 Mbps line. New Delhi already has 52 Mbps lines, so does Navi Mumbai

Ripper3 · Jan 23, 2008, 11:18 AM

I've never seen the point in offering people a faster connection, then imposing lower download limits on them.

Hopefully, London will get fibre soon. I'm pissed off with Orange. A 2GB download limit a month? 2GB?! I can't live on that!!!! It's why I downloaded over 50GB of crap last month

Triprift · Jan 23, 2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Wookie

Try 4mb down, (in theory. Not seen it yet) and 3gb cap.

The joys of the dark continent.

Still, apparently getting a new undersea cable sometime middle next year.

yeah weeve got a link from Guam to Australia thats meant to be complete next year.

CarolinaKSU · Jan 23, 2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ripper3

A 2GB download limit a month? 2GB?! I can't live on that!!!!

Ive probably downloaded 2GB in the last hour just surfing the internets. Flash pages and youtube count towards that limit...

Triprift · Jan 23, 2008, 11:34 AM

do you get shaped if u go over your limit ripper?

Mussels · Jan 23, 2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripper3

I've never seen the point in offering people a faster connection, then imposing lower download limits on them.

Hopefully, London will get fibre soon. I'm pissed off with Orange. A 2GB download limit a month? 2GB?! I can't live on that!!!! It's why I downloaded over 50GB of crap last month

the #1 ISP here in australia, telstra has the following.

$75 a month.
1.5Mb down, 256Kb up.
12GB
UPLOADS are counted in your quota. (up and down combined)
You get shaped to 64Kb up and down after 12GB.

My current ISP for $75 gives
8Mb down, 384Kb up
12GB download on-peak (lunch-midnight period)
48GB off peak (Midnight to lunch period)
Downloads not counted.

Australia aint so bad if you look around... its just that the biggest ISP is also the worst.

Australias problem is the low upload speeds to be honest.

Triprift · Jan 23, 2008, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

Australia aint so bad if you look around... its just that the biggest ISP is also the worst.

No arguments there.

thoughtdisorder · Jan 23, 2008, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

Nope, it's 8 Mbps. I've got the DataOne Business 8 Mbps line. New Delhi already has 52 Mbps lines, so does Navi Mumbai

8 Mbps

Me=Jealous....

Triprift · Jan 23, 2008, 12:54 PM

im about 2k from me exchange and get these speeds

btarunr · Jan 23, 2008, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thoughtdisorder

8 Mbps

Me=Jealous....

I thought 8 Mbps was chickenshit for Americans.

Mussels · Jan 23, 2008, 01:06 PM

Common misconception.

American cable is commonly advertised as 'upto' 10Mb, but in reality most of them get 1-2Mb.

thoughtdisorder · Jan 23, 2008, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

I thought 8 Mbps was chickenshit for Americans.

Depends on where ya live. Good ole Capitalism at work as service providers duke it out in court to stake out their own area's. When one provider has a monopoly of an area they hold on to it using the legal system as long as they can. So called regulators are mostly in the pockets of big industry and can stretch it out for years. Bottom line, some consumers get stuck paying higher prices for less value in service. It is rampant with power companies,etc.

Uh oh, I feel a rant coming on.............

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