X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod - Page 4

W1zzard · Sep 26, 2005, 03:09 PM

no agp version

Ebola · Sep 26, 2005, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

no agp version

May you argue a bit because some adverts anounce that there wille be somme AGP version.

IMO there will NOT be AGP version, they are not gonna spend anymore money in a bridge for an obsolete slot

HousERaT · Sep 26, 2005, 05:59 PM

Hey haplo? what kind of scores are you getting with your system now in 3DMarks? What are your system specs?

jerrym2 · Sep 27, 2005, 02:21 AM

I had 3 out of 4 9500's turn into 9700's, 2 out of 4 9800se's turn into 9800 pro's, I am just thinking of upgrading to pci-e and can not pass this up. I think of it as free equipment. Had to get a pci-e card anyway, was going to get a x800xl but this is more interesting. Ordered it from Allstarshop for 223.00 US shipped. Will not be able to test for awhile because no pci-e board.

jerrym2 · Sep 27, 2005, 02:24 AM

By the way, thank you very much W1zzard, without all your information I would not have been able to do any of this.

Sep 27, 2005, 02:57 AM

It seems that this card will flash to an x850xt pe...The reliablity of the card however is in question. Remember these cards are not x850xt pes for a reason... with that said. I am not bashing the flash... it really is sweet and I am ordering a card tomorrow. However I do have to question how long we will have these cards before they fail.

HousERaT · Sep 27, 2005, 12:28 PM

If I get one you can rest assured I won't be flashing it to an XT. I'll be happy to flash it with the provided modded bios and call it a day. I don't need an XT as long as I can get 16 pipes and plenty of overclock......

W1zzard · Sep 27, 2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hoho220@ocforums.com

It seems that this card will flash to an x850xt pe...The reliablity of the card however is in question. Remember these cards are not x850xt pes for a reason... with that said. I am not bashing the flash... it really is sweet and I am ordering a card tomorrow. However I do have to question how long we will have these cards before they fail.

people were saying the same about the 9500 softmod .. i havent seen many of these cards die yet...

Trevor · Sep 27, 2005, 05:41 PM

I do hope someone will find another place to buy these.

Sep 27, 2005, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor

I do hope someone will find another place to buy these.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102595

AMDCam · Sep 27, 2005, 09:03 PM

Dang, that can go to X850 XT PE with the stock heatsink.....crazy. I mean I thought it was before but I didn't know it had a crappy heatsink, I mean imagine a VF700Cu or an X8%% XT heatsink! That would KILL even overclocked X850XT PE's. I am really jealous right now since I have no use for it because it's only PCIe and I just bought Nvidia's counterpart (a 6800GT that clocks to 6800 UE), but hey, the way I think of it, when I upgrade to PCIe It'll be in at least a year and by then the X800 series will already be cheaper, plus the new generation will be out. Although it SUCKS that I payed $245 for my Nvidia when I could get an ATI that's even better for $200, but oh well. With research Nvidia does actually outdo ATI with their cards without AA or AF, and even with it they don't lag too far behind, so it's not too big.

Sep 27, 2005, 09:05 PM

Are the Sapphire GTO2 x800 OEM and the retail lite both flashable and overclockable? If so, isn't it better to get the OEM version because it's cheaper.

AMDCam · Sep 27, 2005, 09:07 PM

Well the Lite package comes with games, a box, guides and cables, but OEM means you only get the card. So they're the same thing, just the lite package gives you more stuff. So since they're the same they'll overclock the same.

Sep 28, 2005, 04:54 AM

what are the chances of getting a moddable x800gto2?

AMDCam · Sep 28, 2005, 05:01 AM

I would say 100% if you buy one, I mean unless it's a dud but then every graphics card has possible duds.

Sep 28, 2005, 02:34 PM

Well.. i bought Connect3D's X800 GTO and it modded to work with 16 pipelines.. Frequencys just cannot be raised to X850 XT or XT PE numbers.. Core 470mhz and mem. 500mhz :> Btw i havent read all posts, so pls don't complain if something of that info is old ;D

Migons · Sep 28, 2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bbL

Well.. i bought Connect3D's X800 GTO and it modded to work with 16 pipelines.. Frequencys just cannot be raised to X850 XT or XT PE numbers.. Core 470mhz and mem. 500mhz :> Btw i havent read all posts, so pls don't complain if something of that info is old ;D

Here in Finland same situation. ATITool is reporting Connect3D X800 GTO to have R423 core, but really it has R480 (i don't do all C3D's GTO's have). And if you flash directly the Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin BIOS, only 8 pipes are then enabled. But you must first flash the original Sapphire.X800GTO2.Samsung16.bin BIOS, and then the 16P modded Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin. Now you have successfully enabled 16 pipes.

PS. I don't have the card, a user from Muropaketti has it.

Sep 28, 2005, 04:16 PM

no johan outoa settiä iskee o.O When i started my pc 1st time with that C3D GTO, Atitool said that the core is R480 (if i remember it right) and it had 12 pipelines, then i put the new bios, then went to windows and got a nice surprise when atitool said, that card has 0 active pipelines.. well, just reinstalled drivers, rebooted and got those 16 pipes

Migons · Sep 28, 2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bbL

no johan outoa settiä iskee o.O

Jahas, sinäkös se olitkin jo tuossa ylempänä

Sep 28, 2005, 04:27 PM

khyl

ja muistin kuiteki vääri, et kyll se atitool ekana sano et r423.. no kuiteki

ShadowFlare · Sep 28, 2005, 05:11 PM

Haha, all this talk about how this card is easily moddable to be equivalent to an X850 XT PE is making me want to return my Powercolor X800 GT and get the Sapphire X800 GTO2 instead. It would cost me about an additional $60, though. I still have about a week and a half time period that I could return it for an 85% refund.

BTW, do all of them have the 1.6 ns memory chips?

Migons · Sep 28, 2005, 05:58 PM

Reporting now another successful 16P mod here. Connect3D X800 GTO again. He says with original BIOS core can reach 550MHz, but with the Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin it only does 470MHz, just like bbL above. Something limiting in that bios? Also the 2.0ns memory chips are going 490MHz fine now, with original bios memory did 550MHz fine.

grtek · Sep 28, 2005, 08:35 PM

Well I got my card yesterday and I had enough time to use it. And I can say the mod worked perfectly. I had some trouble at first cause of my floppy drive, but once I flashed it, everything was good. I still haven't tried overclocking, but I will do that soon.

Oh yeah this was on a Sapphire X800GTO2 OEM card.

pmr123 · Sep 28, 2005, 09:18 PM

which is a reliable place to buy this (X800GTO2) card from in US ? and is it worth trying to find a lite retail version....appreciate any advice...thanks

AMDCam · Sep 28, 2005, 09:34 PM

Shadowflare, if I were you I would do it as soon as possible man. The GT and GTO2 are about the same price (at newegg.com, about $200) and obviously the GTO2 has the capability to be TWICE as powerful as the GT. I never had that choice when I bought my Radeon 9800 Pro, it was the best I could get in my price range. But seriously dude, in a couple months you're gonna wish you had more power (new games). Although the GT is a great card, just saying price-to-power the GTO2 is about a 200% better value.

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Sep 27, 2005, 02:21 AM	#79
jerrym2 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had 3 out of 4 9500's turn into 9700's, 2 out of 4 9800se's turn into 9800 pro's, I am just thinking of upgrading to pci-e and can not pass this up. I think of it as free equipment. Had to get a pci-e card anyway, was going to get a x800xl but this is more interesting. Ordered it from Allstarshop for 223.00 US shipped. Will not be able to test for awhile because no pci-e board. Last edited by jerrym2; Sep 27, 2005 at 02:27 AM.

Sep 27, 2005, 02:57 AM	#81
hoho220@ocforums.com Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	Hrmm It seems that this card will flash to an x850xt pe...The reliablity of the card however is in question. Remember these cards are not x850xt pes for a reason... with that said. I am not bashing the flash... it really is sweet and I am ordering a card tomorrow. However I do have to question how long we will have these cards before they fail.

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Sep 26, 2005, 03:09 PM	#76
W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,793 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,293 Times in 3,176 Posts System Specs	no agp version

Sep 26, 2005, 05:59 PM	#78
HousERaT Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 119 (0.04/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts System Specs	Hey haplo? what kind of scores are you getting with your system now in 3DMarks? What are your system specs?

Sep 27, 2005, 02:24 AM	#80
jerrym2 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	By the way, thank you very much W1zzard, without all your information I would not have been able to do any of this.

Sep 27, 2005, 12:28 PM	#82
HousERaT Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 119 (0.04/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts System Specs	If I get one you can rest assured I won't be flashing it to an XT. I'll be happy to flash it with the provided modded bios and call it a day. I don't need an XT as long as I can get 16 pipes and plenty of overclock......

Sep 27, 2005, 05:41 PM	#84
Trevor Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 44 (0.02/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I do hope someone will find another place to buy these.

Sep 27, 2005, 09:03 PM	#86
AMDCam Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado, United States Posts: 1,006 (0.34/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts System Specs	Dang, that can go to X850 XT PE with the stock heatsink.....crazy. I mean I thought it was before but I didn't know it had a crappy heatsink, I mean imagine a VF700Cu or an X8%% XT heatsink! That would KILL even overclocked X850XT PE's. I am really jealous right now since I have no use for it because it's only PCIe and I just bought Nvidia's counterpart (a 6800GT that clocks to 6800 UE), but hey, the way I think of it, when I upgrade to PCIe It'll be in at least a year and by then the X800 series will already be cheaper, plus the new generation will be out. Although it SUCKS that I payed $245 for my Nvidia when I could get an ATI that's even better for $200, but oh well. With research Nvidia does actually outdo ATI with their cards without AA or AF, and even with it they don't lag too far behind, so it's not too big. __________________ DEAD- JET Blue (in case gallery) STOLEN- XPS M930 (in case gallery) NEW- NEWEST EDITION Dell XPS M1710 Metallic Black with: Core 2 Duo T7200 2ghz (hopefully overclockable), GeForce 7950 GTX 512mb, 2gb DDR2 667mhz RAM, Sound Blaster Audigy HD Sound Card (hopefully), Blu Ray drive soon (when it's not $1000 for a 2x drive), 60gb 7,200rpm Hard Drive, Logitech Z5500 sound system, Windows XP Media Center 2005

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Sep 27, 2005, 09:05 PM	#87
prius24 Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	Are the Sapphire GTO2 x800 OEM and the retail lite both flashable and overclockable? If so, isn't it better to get the OEM version because it's cheaper.

Sep 27, 2005, 09:07 PM	#88
AMDCam Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado, United States Posts: 1,006 (0.34/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts System Specs	Well the Lite package comes with games, a box, guides and cables, but OEM means you only get the card. So they're the same thing, just the lite package gives you more stuff. So since they're the same they'll overclock the same. __________________ DEAD- JET Blue (in case gallery) STOLEN- XPS M930 (in case gallery) NEW- NEWEST EDITION Dell XPS M1710 Metallic Black with: Core 2 Duo T7200 2ghz (hopefully overclockable), GeForce 7950 GTX 512mb, 2gb DDR2 667mhz RAM, Sound Blaster Audigy HD Sound Card (hopefully), Blu Ray drive soon (when it's not $1000 for a 2x drive), 60gb 7,200rpm Hard Drive, Logitech Z5500 sound system, Windows XP Media Center 2005

Sep 28, 2005, 04:54 AM	#89
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	what are the chances of getting a moddable x800gto2?

Sep 28, 2005, 05:01 AM	#90
AMDCam Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado, United States Posts: 1,006 (0.34/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts System Specs	I would say 100% if you buy one, I mean unless it's a dud but then every graphics card has possible duds. __________________ DEAD- JET Blue (in case gallery) STOLEN- XPS M930 (in case gallery) NEW- NEWEST EDITION Dell XPS M1710 Metallic Black with: Core 2 Duo T7200 2ghz (hopefully overclockable), GeForce 7950 GTX 512mb, 2gb DDR2 667mhz RAM, Sound Blaster Audigy HD Sound Card (hopefully), Blu Ray drive soon (when it's not $1000 for a 2x drive), 60gb 7,200rpm Hard Drive, Logitech Z5500 sound system, Windows XP Media Center 2005

Sep 28, 2005, 02:34 PM	#91
bbL Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	Well.. i bought Connect3D's X800 GTO and it modded to work with 16 pipelines.. Frequencys just cannot be raised to X850 XT or XT PE numbers.. Core 470mhz and mem. 500mhz :> Btw i havent read all posts, so pls don't complain if something of that info is old ;D

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Sep 28, 2005, 04:16 PM	#93
bbL Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	no johan outoa settiä iskee o.O When i started my pc 1st time with that C3D GTO, Atitool said that the core is R480 (if i remember it right) and it had 12 pipelines, then i put the new bios, then went to windows and got a nice surprise when atitool said, that card has 0 active pipelines.. well, just reinstalled drivers, rebooted and got those 16 pipes

Sep 28, 2005, 04:27 PM	#95
bbL Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	khyl ja muistin kuiteki vääri, et kyll se atitool ekana sano et r423.. no kuiteki

Sep 28, 2005, 05:11 PM	#96
ShadowFlare Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 541 (0.19/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Haha, all this talk about how this card is easily moddable to be equivalent to an X850 XT PE is making me want to return my Powercolor X800 GT and get the Sapphire X800 GTO2 instead. It would cost me about an additional $60, though. I still have about a week and a half time period that I could return it for an 85% refund. BTW, do all of them have the 1.6 ns memory chips?

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Sep 28, 2005, 05:58 PM	#97
Migons Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 184 (0.06/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	Reporting now another successful 16P mod here. Connect3D X800 GTO again. He says with original BIOS core can reach 550MHz, but with the Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin it only does 470MHz, just like bbL above. Something limiting in that bios? Also the 2.0ns memory chips are going 490MHz fine now, with original bios memory did 550MHz fine. __________________ Tilt.tv - Senior Moderator Hammerzeit!

Sep 28, 2005, 08:35 PM	#98
grtek Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 2 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mod Confirmed Again Well I got my card yesterday and I had enough time to use it. And I can say the mod worked perfectly. I had some trouble at first cause of my floppy drive, but once I flashed it, everything was good. I still haven't tried overclocking, but I will do that soon. Oh yeah this was on a Sapphire X800GTO2 OEM card.

Sep 28, 2005, 09:18 PM	#99
pmr123 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	which is a reliable place to buy this (X800GTO2) card from in US ? and is it worth trying to find a lite retail version....appreciate any advice...thanks

Sep 28, 2005, 09:34 PM	#100
AMDCam Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado, United States Posts: 1,006 (0.34/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts System Specs	Shadowflare, if I were you I would do it as soon as possible man. The GT and GTO2 are about the same price (at newegg.com, about $200) and obviously the GTO2 has the capability to be TWICE as powerful as the GT. I never had that choice when I bought my Radeon 9800 Pro, it was the best I could get in my price range. But seriously dude, in a couple months you're gonna wish you had more power (new games). Although the GT is a great card, just saying price-to-power the GTO2 is about a 200% better value. __________________ DEAD- JET Blue (in case gallery) STOLEN- XPS M930 (in case gallery) NEW- NEWEST EDITION Dell XPS M1710 Metallic Black with: Core 2 Duo T7200 2ghz (hopefully overclockable), GeForce 7950 GTX 512mb, 2gb DDR2 667mhz RAM, Sound Blaster Audigy HD Sound Card (hopefully), Blu Ray drive soon (when it's not $1000 for a 2x drive), 60gb 7,200rpm Hard Drive, Logitech Z5500 sound system, Windows XP Media Center 2005

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