X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

[anomen]

Originally Posted by Dr.D

my fan is 100% all the time

noisy!

[DanishDevil]

Originally Posted by Dr.D

Alright I wanted to post my my specs in hope of finding more about tempratures

System:(Dell 8400 )
P4 530@3.0Ghz
160GB HD
1GB DDR2 533
X800GTO2 (Use to be X300SE )
2 DVD drives
350W PSU

3DMark05 Scores:
X300SE - 1118
X800GTO2 Stock - 4405
X800GTO2 Unlocked - 4913

Tempratures:
X300SE - Unknown
X800GTO2 Stock - Forgot

X800GTO2 Unlocked:
39-43C Idle
63C Max while playing games

Any thoughts on my tempratures? Should they be lower? Are they fine? Average? Comment on anything else if you like

-Thanks

Your temps are fine. I get a 60C LOAD when running F.E.A.R. for 3 hours with my Zalman.

Get a new case, a new PSU, and . . .















NEVER BUY A DELL AGAIN!

[mbd1475]

Hey my 3dMark05 won't do a Find Max Core. It just sits there on the same temperature.

Anyone know what could be wrong?

BTW, running at 545/560 on a Zalman VF700... never gets above 55.9 degrees under load

[JE]

Hey folks, reporting another success on unlocking the additional 4 pipes with the C3D. Just beginning my OC venture as I write this, will report more extensive findings later. I do have a question though, as this is the first vid card I've actually oc'd from stock settings - does OC'ing shorten the life of the card, if proper cooling is used? It seems to me, if temperatures stay in-line with what they should be, then there should be no shortening of the card's life - is this method of thinking incorrect?

Thanks in advance!

[DanishDevil]

You are still stressing the card. Hypothetically, you could prolong the life of a component by underclocking it. The harder you make your hardware work, the sooner it will fail you.

Originally Posted by mbd1475

Hey my 3dMark05 won't do a Find Max Core. It just sits there on the same temperature.

Anyone know what could be wrong?

BTW, running at 545/560 on a Zalman VF700... never gets above 55.9 degrees under load

3DMARK05 is a benchmarking program. Find Max Core is in ATiTool. Which are you asking about?

[afropuff]

For those that used the stock HSF at 100% fan speed for a while and THEN bought a Zalman.

How loud is the Zalman @ 12v 100% compared to the stock HSF @ 100% ??

-fro

[kapeeteeleest_peeg]

Originally Posted by JE

Hey folks, reporting another success on unlocking the additional 4 pipes with the C3D. Just beginning my OC venture as I write this, will report more extensive findings later. I do have a question though, as this is the first vid card I've actually oc'd from stock settings - does OC'ing shorten the life of the card, if proper cooling is used? It seems to me, if temperatures stay in-line with what they should be, then there should be no shortening of the card's life - is this method of thinking incorrect?

Thanks in advance!

Well, dont forget to turn fan to 100% in ati tool!!! Before you do ANYTHING ELSE
I too unlocked my C3D gto to 16 pipes, but didnt see or know 'bout above detail!
I assumed that the card would increase fan in line with temp... not so, the result is a rma!.
I'm starting to believe that these cards have been made with x800xt chips that were'nt up to scratch in the 1st place, or perhaps x800 pro grade r423 (12 pipes)...

I'm gonna buy wot I should have 2 start with... an nVidia 7800gt!

[mbd1475]

Sorry I meant AtiTool

[tigergenerals]

As I had posted earlier, the Zalman VF700 does NOT fit with my mb (http://support.gateway.com/s//MOTHER...104572nv.shtml) due to a little coil conveniently right above the PCIE slot.

So I've taken suggestions about pumping up my stock fan to 100%.

I think my card is running kinda hot, but what do you all think?

C3D unlocked to 16 pipes at 500/550.
3DMark05 = 5728
GPU min/max/avg during 3DMark05 run: 48.3/85.5/70.4 (I think this last number is kinda skewed because my dynamic settings for my fan running at a certain percentage above a certain temp didn't kick in, so now I'm just at 100% full time...)
GPU environment 45/64/56.9


Catalyst 5.11 drivers
XP Media Center
Intel (Cortez) 945G Motherboard
Pentium Dual Core 2.8ghz
2 gigs ddr2 4200
250, 400 SATA

Suggestions, comments? Pleaseness...

[khurios2000]

anybody knows the memory setting for C3D X800GTO?

Tried
TRCDRD: 7
TRCDWR: 3
TRP: 5
TRAS: 13
TRRD: 4
TWR: 6
TR2W: CL+2
TW2R: 4
TR2R: USE TWR RULE
TR2R: 2
WR_LATENCY: 1.5
CAS_LATENCY: 7
CMD_LATENCY: 0
STR_LATENCY: WR LATENCY
REFRESH_RATE: 0x75
TRFC: 23

and lowered the max memory to 524mhz

[JE]

Yeah, that makes sense, thanks guys. I do have another odd question, related to ATITool - I notice ATITool skyrockets temperatures during 3d mode viewing and scanning for artifacts, etc. upwards of 70c at 440/540 core/mem, yet during CoD2, Q4, 3DMark '05, etc. temperatures don't exceed 44c. is that some sort of error, or is that normal for ATITool?

For reference, using the C3D GTO @ 16 pipes.


Thanks in advance, as always!

[afropuff]

Originally Posted by JE

Yeah, that makes sense, thanks guys. I do have another odd question, related to ATITool - I notice ATITool skyrockets temperatures during 3d mode viewing and scanning for artifacts, etc. upwards of 70c at 440/540 core/mem, yet during CoD2, Q4, 3DMark '05, etc. temperatures don't exceed 44c. is that some sort of error, or is that normal for ATITool?

For reference, using the C3D GTO @ 16 pipes.


Thanks in advance, as always!

ATItool stresses the GPU a lot more than games

-fro

[JE]

ah, nod. so, probably more realistic to base heat/stability off of games/3dmark/etc as opposed to ATITool? Since ATI tool stresses GPU far beyond anything you'll do in a real world scenario?

[DanishDevil]

ATiTool is meant to stress your GPU enough so that, in a hot or strenuous environment, your games and or benchmarking will not fry your GPU core.

[DanishDevil]

Originally Posted by afropuff

For those that used the stock HSF at 100% fan speed for a while and THEN bought a Zalman.

How loud is the Zalman @ 12v 100% compared to the stock HSF @ 100% ??

-fro

It's a lot quieter. Probably somewhere around 8-15db quieter.

[DanishDevil]

Can we maybe get this added to the first post in here for reference?:

Stock X800GTO2 Memory Timings:

TRCDRD: 7
TRCDWR: 4
TRP: 6
TRAS: 14
TRRD: 5
TWR: 7
TR2W: CL+3
TW2R: 3
TR2R: Use TWR Rule
TR2R: 2
WR_LATENCY: 1.5
CAS_LATENCY: 7
CMD_LATENCY: 0
STR_LATENCY: WR Latency
REFRESH_RATE: 0x3B
TRFC: 27

Enhanced X800GTO2 Memory Timings:

-Note: You will have to lower clocks to use these without gaining artifacts; Yes, they do increase performance. Set your memory to stock frequency, set these timings in ATiTool, and use Find Max Mem.

TRCDRD: 7
TRCDWR: 3
TRP: 5
TRAS: 13
TRRD: 4
TWR: 6
TR2W: CL+2
TW2R: 4
TR2R: USE TWR RULE
TR2R: 2
WR_LATENCY: 1.5
CAS_LATENCY: 7
CMD_LATENCY: 0
STR_LATENCY: WR LATENCY
REFRESH_RATE: 0x75
TRFC: 23

Coming soon: Performance Differences btwn Max Mem @ Stock Timings and Max Mem @ Enhanced Timings.

[DanishDevil]

OK Guys, here's the story on the Enhanced Memory Timings:

I was at 525/615 with stock timings. I ran AQM3, and I got this score:

GFX: 10,962
CPU: 10,433
Total: 71,898

Then, I dropped the Memory to stock, input the timings, and found a max memory frequency of 582MHz, just under X850XTPE speeds (although my core crashes above 525).

So, running at 525/582 EMT (Enhanced Memory Timings) I got this score:



Not too shabby eh? Finally got a GFX score in the 11k range.

[Ponz]

hi all

i have buy an x800GTO GeCube 12pipeline with r480 chipset

from atitool ---> setting is not visible configuration of CONFIG_DIE_FUSE , CONFIG_SUBSTRATES_FUSES and CONFIG_ROM_FUSES ecc.. but on "use device" is visible R480, my question is: is possible to flash bios for update @ x850xl ? or unlock to 16pipeline ? or some other alternative ? my x800gto have samsung memory ( i think samsung 2.0)

I attend one your trusting answer thanks

sry for my bad english

[Benjie]

First post so hello to everyone

Just taken delivery today of a C3D gto, the fuse data doesnt match that of the ones that are moddable, is there nothing that can be done in the way of different bios flashes or am i stuck with 12 pipelines?

Ive stuck the card in my xqpack with a biostar 6100-939 board and sent ati tool off to find the max core, it topped out at around 580 so im pretty happy, havent had a chance to do the mem yet, had to run out here to do 2hours of radio!

Cheers

Benjie

Originally Posted by Ponz

hi all

i have buy an x800GTO GeCube 12pipeline with r480 chipset

from atitool ---> setting is not visible configuration of CONFIG_DIE_FUSE , CONFIG_SUBSTRATES_FUSES and CONFIG_ROM_FUSES ecc.. but on "use device" is visible R480, my question is: is possible to flash bios for update @ x850xl ? or unlock to 16pipeline ? or some other alternative ? my x800gto have samsung memory ( i think samsung 2.0)

I attend one your trusting answer thanks

sry for my bad english

y0 you have to hold down the shift button first before going into those settings. Beside i don't think you can mod that card anyway, since the card comes with only 12pp but the frequencies have been raised for the core and the mem to match a 16pp 400/490 GTO in benchmarks. What are the speeds anyhow on your core/mem?

Originally Posted by Benjie

First post so hello to everyone

Just taken delivery today of a C3D gto, the fuse data doesnt match that of the ones that are moddable, is there nothing that can be done in the way of different bios flashes or am i stuck with 12 pipelines?

Ive stuck the card in my xqpack with a biostar 6100-939 board and sent ati tool off to find the max core, it topped out at around 580 so im pretty happy, havent had a chance to do the mem yet, had to run out here to do 2hours of radio!

Cheers

Benjie

You really don't have those numbers listed like the modded ones? Where did you buy your C3D GTO? Maybe the pipelines are lazer cut in your situation? You can connect them i think. Why don't you still go ahead and mod it and see what happens...i mean you bought the card and were so excited, why not?

[kapeeteeleest_peeg]

Does anybody get corruption of the 'little car' in cat control centre?
especially if your on Asrock dual sata2 with C3D Gto...

Apart from that my car seems to be excellent...
its doin my head in!

[Benjie]

when i get back home i will post up the numbers i have, got a 3E on the first line and something else on the second one. Not enough F's for my liking. Might have a crack at flashing it tonight, got the bios backed up so its not like im gonna kill it!

edit : bought it from savastore coz it was only £120.

Also if there is a lazer cut i can get hold of a conductive pen easily aslong as its "safe" to do so

[kapeeteeleest_peeg]

Originally Posted by Benjie

when i get back home i will post up the numbers i have, got a 3E on the first line and something else on the second one. Not enough F's for my liking. Might have a crack at flashing it tonight, got the bios backed up so its not like im gonna kill it!

...be ready with a second graphx card (pci)

[Benjie]

got that covered mate

cheers for the heads up though!