e8400 and e8500

binsky3333 · Feb 10, 2008, 03:54 PM

Hi,
I have heard there have been many heat issues with the e8400. Something and the thermal diode. Does anyone know if there have been any heat problems with the e8500.

Nicksterr · Feb 10, 2008, 03:59 PM

I think this problem has to due with the maximum recommended operating temperature, which is ~71C for the e8400 model.

trog100 · Feb 10, 2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicksterr

I think this problem has to due with the maximum recommended operating temperature, which is ~71C for the e8400 model.

as measured reliably by what.. ?????

trog

MikeJeng · Feb 10, 2008, 07:01 PM

Is there a release date for the E8500?

trog100 · Feb 10, 2008, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeJeng

Is there a release date for the E8500?

its released now.. there just isnt any out there in the channels.. not that many 8400s either.. kind of a fake launch to keep the shareholders happy.. released on time but not really so to speak.. he he he

trog

hat · Feb 10, 2008, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binsky3333

Hi,
I have heard there have been many heat issues with the e8400. Something and the thermal diode. Does anyone know if there have been any heat problems with the e8500.

It's a problem with all 45nm processors. The heat sensor reports high temperatures at cool temperatures that are really happening. The processor really doesn't run that high. It gets more and more accurate at high temperatures, though.

happita · Feb 10, 2008, 07:57 PM

Maybe Intel will fix this problem, or will they lay back and let the sales keep rolling? What you think lol..

binsky3333 · Feb 11, 2008, 01:56 AM

Hopefully they will fix because i wanna get a new 45nm but also i dont wanna take my chances of getting one of the screwed up ones. Then again if i did get a messed up one i could return and get a refund.

MikeJeng · Feb 11, 2008, 02:12 AM

Where can I buy an E8500?

happita · Feb 11, 2008, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeJeng

Where can I buy an E8500?

A thing called Google can be someone's best friend..

trog100 · Feb 11, 2008, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binsky3333

Hopefully they will fix because i wanna get a new 45nm but also i dont wanna take my chances of getting one of the screwed up ones. Then again if i did get a messed up one i could return and get a refund.

intels answer to that is they dont sell thermometers and all the sensors are for is to throttle the chip down if it overheats.. which they will do apparently..

trog

MikeJeng · Feb 11, 2008, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happita

A thing called Google can be someone's best friend..

I have checked google... no links to one that is IN STOCK.

strick94u · Feb 11, 2008, 03:42 AM

I have had no heat issues with my e8400 at all 28c 32c under heavy load

trog100 · Feb 11, 2008, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strick94u

I have had no heat issues with my e8400 at all 28c 32c under heavy load

again as measured by what...???.. my bios tells me mine idles at 4 C and loads at 8 C.. i could say i have no heat issues.. except i dont live in the artic.. he he

trog

binsky3333 · Feb 12, 2008, 12:16 AM

If you do get one of the messed up ones what is the best way to figure out its real temperature.

ShadowFold · Feb 12, 2008, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binsky3333

If you do get one of the messed up ones what is the best way to figure out its real temperature.

coretemp or everest

binsky3333 · Feb 12, 2008, 01:25 AM

Oh ok thanks!

trog100 · Feb 12, 2008, 02:38 AM

they dont run hot.. heat isnt the issue with them.. voltage is the unknown thing..

anything over 1.4 isnt considered good for 24/7 use.. dont overvolt and they will be okay.. i dont believe coretemp and certainly not everest.. but i dont think they run hot.. least my fingers cant feel any heat coming from the cooler and the base of the cooler feels cool..

forget heat and think voltage..

trog

ps.. mine seems runs happy at 1.34 volts and 4 gig.. once u go much over 4 gig the voltage has to be upped in large amounts for each small speed increase..

Feb 10, 2008, 03:54 PM	#1
binsky3333 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 624 (0.29/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts System Specs	e8400 and e8500 Hi, I have heard there have been many heat issues with the e8400. Something and the thermal diode. Does anyone know if there have been any heat problems with the e8500.

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Feb 10, 2008, 03:59 PM	#2
Nicksterr Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AL Posts: 80 (0.03/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	I think this problem has to due with the maximum recommended operating temperature, which is ~71C for the e8400 model.

Feb 10, 2008, 07:01 PM	#4
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Feb 10, 2008, 07:57 PM	#7
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Feb 11, 2008, 01:56 AM	#8
binsky3333 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 624 (0.29/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts System Specs	Hopefully they will fix because i wanna get a new 45nm but also i dont wanna take my chances of getting one of the screwed up ones. Then again if i did get a messed up one i could return and get a refund.

Feb 11, 2008, 02:12 AM	#9
MikeJeng Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: United States - CA Posts: 521 (0.27/day) Thanks: 44 Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts System Specs	Where can I buy an E8500?

Feb 11, 2008, 03:42 AM	#13
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Feb 12, 2008, 12:16 AM	#15
binsky3333 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 624 (0.29/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts System Specs	If you do get one of the messed up ones what is the best way to figure out its real temperature.

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Feb 12, 2008, 01:25 AM	#17
binsky3333 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 624 (0.29/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts System Specs	Oh ok thanks!

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trog100 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,401 (1.62/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 260 Times in 233 Posts System Specs	they dont run hot.. heat isnt the issue with them.. voltage is the unknown thing.. anything over 1.4 isnt considered good for 24/7 use.. dont overvolt and they will be okay.. i dont believe coretemp and certainly not everest.. but i dont think they run hot.. least my fingers cant feel any heat coming from the cooler and the base of the cooler feels cool.. forget heat and think voltage.. trog ps.. mine seems runs happy at 1.34 volts and 4 gig.. once u go much over 4 gig the voltage has to be upped in large amounts for each small speed increase.. __________________ Ignore the truth.. follow the herd.. you will make more friends that way and life will be easier.. Last edited by trog100; Feb 12, 2008 at 02:44 AM.

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