Fanatec Porsche 911 Turbo Wheel

[Darksaber]

To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/F...1_Turbo_Wheel/

[knowledge123]

It seems as if you got the beta unit, as I did ?

There are changes that the final unit had that the beta doesn't, such as a plate (1kg, iirc) in the pedals, so it doesn't shift at all.

Good review though

[Darksaber]

Originally Posted by knowledge123

It seems as if you got the beta unit, as I did ?

There are changes that the final unit had that the beta doesn't, such as a plate (1kg, iirc) in the pedals, so it doesn't shift at all.

Good review though

Well if they sent me a beta unit as final, then that is what I have to evaluate. If Fanatec would like to send me a final unit so I can compare and see if there are any changes, I would love to do that.

But I did not really go into the very technical aspects of the unit, I focused more on the function and design of the wheel for this review. This is to show, how does the wheel work, what does it look like? what features does it have?

but good to know that they have changed things around a bit

cheers
DS

[Hawk1]

Good review. Product seems great (asside from the plasticy pedals/gearbox's) and the steering wheel looks exceptionally accurate, but I think if I was in the market for a Wheel right now, I would have to go with the G25, which is a much better value for money. Don't get me wrong, I love Porsche, but not for the premium that is charged. I guess the quantity on this will be limited as it is a niche high end product. Looks very good and if you are that much of a P fan, go for it.

[regan1985]

dont think it would sell well in the uk or japan unless they put the gearbox on the otherside

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by regan1985

dont think it would sell well in the uk or japan unless they put the gearbox on the otherside

LOL you can put the gearbox on whatever side you like.

Well as G25 owner I think this is an okay attempt at an alternate choice. But with the higher price and the plasticky bits that I know are steel and solid on my G25 I will stick to my current choice . I had been waiting to see a review on it to see if I could recommend it to people as an alternative, I cant.

[FilipM]

Great review as always.

Nice wheel, Fanatec have done a great job with it, but it seems that the pedals let it down. But still, the G25 seems the best choice for true sim-addicts (like me ).

BTW Wizz, not attacking, just a compliment, you should test wheels like these in more realistic game like GTR2 or Race 07 to feel where the real wheel shines. In games like that you should feel the most realistic feedback. And a warning...those games aren't for n00bies.

I don't know how many TPU users will agree with me on that.

[Darksaber]

thanx for the feedback I was the guy who reviewed that ^^

we can try it out with all types of games, and you will always find someone who prefers one game over another...What we tried to show in the review is the function of the wheel, not so much for a specific game, but how it handles certain global aspects (like vibration and force feedback).

cheers
DS

[lemonadesoda]

All I can say is...

... time for Porsche Unleashed 2!

C'mon NFS team... you havent made a game as good as NFSPU was. But it is in desperate need of an updated version. Go knock on Porsches doors for some more sponsorship money.

I had so much fun with NFSPU that i actually went out and bought a 911. (A couple of years later, mind).

[Lowman316]

... agreed. A high end product like this wheel should be testet on games like lfs2, cmrae dirt, race 07 or gtr2. Nobody buys a 350$ wheel to play NFS!
Comparison to the G25 would have been nice.

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by File_1993

Great review as always.

Nice wheel, Fanatec have done a great job with it, but it seems that the pedals let it down. But still, the G25 seems the best choice for true sim-addicts (like me ).

BTW Wizz, not attacking, just a compliment, you should test wheels like these in more realistic game like GTR2 or Race 07 to feel where the real wheel shines. In games like that you should feel the most realistic feedback. And a warning...those games aren't for n00bies.

I don't know how many TPU users will agree with me on that.

Yeah I will agree with this. I bought my G25 for GTL/rFactor/GTR2 Now that I have a PS3 it has become even more useful.
I have NFS Pro Street and I can say it is a pretty good game as far as FFB goes and it actually has THE BEST clutch out of any game I have EVER played(and I own or have tried em all) All the sims I mentioned while alot more in depth don't even come close.
So it wasnt a bad choice as a test game actually.

[Lowman316]

Don't get me wrong... the review wasn't bad at all...
BUT not on the "complete" level i would expect from this site!

@INSTG8R
A quite good setup!

Anyway best clutch for me is still lfs 2 alpha!

[Fanatec]

Thanks for the good review and the the award!

Most of the things which have been critizised have been changed. We changed the material of the shifters and made a complete rework on the pedals before mass production.

The packaging is certainly a matter of taste. We followed Porsche standards which are different from what is popular in the PC and Toy market.

The Force Feedback strength can be adjusted both in the driver and the Tuning menu of the wheel and hey, don't buy a Porsche Turbo and then complain it has too much power

[Darksaber]

Originally Posted by Lowman316

Don't get me wrong... the review wasn't bad at all...
BUT not on the "complete" level i would expect from this site!

@INSTG8R
A quite good setup!

Anyway best clutch for me is still lfs 2 alpha!

noted

let me see if I can get the review updated with GTR2 and Race 07 within the next few days- I will let you guy know-

cheers
DS

[MikeVictor]

Just ordered the Fanatec Porsche wheel set on their web site.

As I understand it, I actually preordered it, apparently and the first shipment of any order for the new improved version of the wheel will start in a couple days, the end of April. I understand that there is a list of orders that they will fill first come first serve. I suspect I am well down on the list by now as this new version appears to have been added to their catelog back in Aug 07.

Is all that right?

If all the 40 improvements listed in a previoius posting to this thread were implemented, then I would think this would be a very good wheel set with the precision i am looking for in the pedals and the wheel. I have found that the precise integrated use of brake and accelerator are critical to braking, cornoring, and accelerating..and add a lot more fun to the simulation when one can nail the 4 wheel drift at maximum possible braking, speed and acceleration in and out of a corner.

I am a GPL diehard that experiments with newer sims, but that classic open wheel racing without the aid of newer technology is where it is at for me. Much more is required of the driver, I like that, keeps me busy.

Looking forward to getting the wheel set, hope to see it sometime in May 08.

Regards to all,

Mike

[MikeVictor]

Just recieved an email from Fanatec saying I would have the Wheel set delivered by mid May. Lookiing forward to it. I trust that the pedals will be much improved over the beta version reported before as that is critical to my satisfaction with the system. I participate in flight sims as well and hope to have a set up where I only need one set of pedals for car racing and aircraft piloting. We'll see. Anyone with experience with this?

Looking forward to it regardless,

Mike

[jmke]

Hey Darksaber, thank you for the review; how about some feedback on using it with a recent racing sim.

LFS
rFactor
GTR2/Race07

how does it compare the Logitech G25?

[MikeVictor]

I've noted that a lot of the concern with the Fanatec wheel was actually based on the beta version of the wheel. It was commendable for them to openly involve the sim racing community in performing beta testing during their development of the final product. Admirable. Of course the beta version of the Fanatec wheel set would probably be inferior to the production version of the G25 in some ways. But I suspect due to the open beta testing and apparent response and corrective action taken, that the Fanatec wheel we recieve in a week or so will be far superior to it's competiters overall and worth the price difference. I supsect that we will get more value for the money than for the G25. Fanatec has thrown down the guantlet, and I think they are going to take top honors when compared to current production models on the market. However, I am wondering what Logitec is going to do about it.

I bought the Fanatec Wheel and am looking forward to using it, but I respect and own more than one Logitec product and have been happy with them. Fanatec has raised the bar, Logitec will clear it and we will see some interesting improvements in game controls as a result of this healthy competition between two respectable vendors, and others.

How I see it at the moment,

Mike (GPL diehard fan)

[MikeVictor]

Just recieved an email with an invoice attached stating that my payment has been recieved (I ordered the Wheel a couple weeks ago) and that it would now be shipped. Shipment will take about a week according to the invoice. So I should see it next week sometime, not this week.

I guess they are sorting out their customer communications approach with this order and will improve upon it. I suspect that will be my only "issue" with this. On-line vendors more often than not provide a tracking number that provides some status to the buyer, that is unless the US Post Office is making the delivery, then tracking numbers if provided are useless as per my experience.

If there is anything I would change to date with my experience, it would be improving the on-line order status reporting and provision of shipment tracking numbers for customers. Perhaps the Fanatec folks will address these concerns as they did those for the product itself. I have no big heartburn with this, unless the package is deliverd and sits on my doorstep and gets stolen without my being able to do anything to prevent it.

Has anyone else recieved an invoice in the email?

Mike

[magibeg]

I have to wonder what that feels like in comparison to the real thing though. I've driven a porche boxter (big difference i know) and i'm curious how authentic it really is.

[MikeVictor]

It's sort of neat that they adopted the Porsche style with the wheel. But frankly, I would rather have had the money spent on improvements to the hardware and software than paying for an expensive emblem on the wheel. The possible advantage to the Porsche association is that Porsche may insist that products with their name on them be of high quality just like their cars.

I wish I had 100k to put into a Porsche of my own. I will have to settle for my Fanatec wheel, my Manta Ray 12 kayak: http://www.nativewatercraft.com/ , my Jeep Grand Cherokee, my sailplane: http://www.nimbus.org.uk/sn_103.htm, and my bicycle. Don't have a skate board anymore....

I'll comment on my experience with it, looking forward to it.

Mike

[MikeVictor]

The Fanatec folks are quick to respond to email inquiries and are very positive/friendly, impressive. I was emailed today by their customer support department that there was a delay in clearing customs (that is predictable) and that the Wheels should arrive at the USA warehouse today to be shipped via DHL quickly on to our homes. A DHL tracking number will be provided via email. I am glad to hear this as I need to plan on being home to recieve it or shortly after it arrives.

One of the best procurement and shipping status reporting capabilities I have seen is on the newegg web site. Amazon, and Yahoo are a good examples too. Not an advertizement, just a fact.

So the shipping situation is looking good to me now as is the customer support.

I am a believer in German made products, I lived in Germany for 3 years (1978-1981) near Frankfurt, an experience I will remember fondly, a truly beautiful country. I've never been disapointed in anything I paid for in Germany, including some expensive hi-fi equiipment.

Once I recieve the wheel, I will do a review and post it.

Mike

[AsRock]

Any chance you can rip it apart ? :P.. ever wheel i have had has broken due to how the wheel connects to the rest of the unit.

Thrustmaster did there much older one with a steal shaft which was ok if you were handy with a screw driver and spanner every so often now they just snap....

[MikeVictor]

No, I won't be taking it apart, not while it's under warranty and probably never. I have seen the insides of it on some posts someplace and maybe on u-tube, not sure of the later.

My old trusty MOMO hasn't broken in any way like you have experienced, and it's been manhandled some.

Mike

[MikeVictor]

Recieved an notice via email today from Fanatec that my Fanatec Wheel has been picked up by DHL in California and is enroute to me now. Expected delivery is next week. So I have a tracking number now, finally. Apparently, US customs/security delays occured beyond the control of anyone. Will post next week (hopefully) my initial impressions of it. Will answer questions about it posted here or PM'd/emailed to me.

My interest in this wheel started with it's pedals as they might be useable with my joy stick for aviation sims I have. Will give that a try as well. I was interested in obtaining a wheel set that would enable me to be more precise in my wheel, brake, accelerator inputs to optimize my cornering in GPL (GPL will pass it's 10 year aniversary this Fall).

It would be a significant improvement if the vendors of Fanatec wheels could adopt a web based shipment tracking and reporting capability similar to that provided by newegg.com where steps in the shipment process are reported on their web site both before and after the local shipper picks up the package. I would add a step "bogged down in US customs" as a step...

Mike