What type of HDTV do you prefer?

[ktr]

If you are to go beyond 50", got towards DLP, anything below...LCD. Plasma is nice, but its pricey, and doesn't have a long life span.

[Snake05]

Just hope you don't mind replacing the bulb for $250-$350 every 2 years...

[DaMulta]

Originally Posted by Snake05

Just hope you don't mind replacing the bulb for $250-$350 every 2 years...

Brand new TV for that 300 dollars. I dont think it's every 2 years, maybe if you left it on all day all night 24/7.


. + no movieng parts like the DLP, but I hear they are doing the spinng wheel with a light now.

I have a 720p Sony 55" LCD and it is more than perfect.

[Snake05]

Its based on an average day's use of about 4-6 hours a day. Some last less than 2 years, while some last 3 or a little more. It'll be better when they begin selling the bulbs retail, but who would the manufacturers give up guarenteed business? They are using the spinning wheel now, but the bulb is still short lived. They are beginning to release several LED DLP tv's that will last a very long time. That'd be the ideal way to go. Plus the viewing angle on DLP's annoy me (I watch one every day when I get home from work). I prefer LCD's, I worked in the TV dept of CC last summer, and they always seemed the most consistant (quality picture + quality manufacturing).

[mrw1986]

LED DLP's eliminate the problem of replacing the bulb. They have roughly the same lifespan as an LCD.

[Snake05]

The only problem is you lost part of the price to size ratio, as the price is higher for the LED versions.

[1Strive]

Originally Posted by mrw1986

DLPs aren't very heavy...also I still disagree with the smaller monitor having a better IQ. This is speaking from many years of A/V experience. A Pioneer Elite 60" Plasma has way better IQ than most 40" and lower LCDs.

I am not sorry for trying to defend my point. I wanted people to tell me reasons why they like their techs and maybe why not the other techs.

Thanks,
1STRIVE

[JC316]

LCD, hands down. I love em. Very sharp and crisp and most don't glare.

[Easy Rhino]

i've got the 42" LG LCD 1080P HDTV. it is nice but is 60Hz. for the money the 120Hz models just arent worth it yet. maybe next year they will be. if you own a 60hz model like myself then the tv does a 3:2 pulldown rather than 1:1. nobody can really tell the difference since todays 3:2 pulldown technology is much better than it used to be. i do not recommend a DLP tv. the picture is always a bit washed out.

[1Strive]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

i've got the 42" LG LCD 1080P HDTV. it is nice but is 60Hz. for the money the 120Hz models just arent worth it yet. maybe next year they will be. if you own a 60hz model like myself then the tv does a 3:2 pulldown rather than 1:1. nobody can really tell the difference since todays 3:2 pulldown technology is much better than it used to be. i do not recommend a DLP tv. the picture is always a bit washed out.

You are the first to mention the 3:2 pulldown problem. I am thankful.
Some new LCD's have and option for 24Hrtz that way they match the DVD/BR-D source.
Case in Point is Samsungs 46" 120hrtz. But these cost 1k more usually.

I also thank the comment about the viewing angle that is something that I forgot about and then we must mention the Glare. Most DLP's I have seen don't have a great viewing angle but also don't have much of a glare.

I think it comes down to personal opinion for most people. and price.

Thanks to all for the help.
1STRIVE

[effmaster]

Originally Posted by Snake05

Its based on an average day's use of about 4-6 hours a day. Some last less than 2 years, while some last 3 or a little more. It'll be better when they begin selling the bulbs retail, but who would the manufacturers give up guarenteed business? They are using the spinning wheel now, but the bulb is still short lived. They are beginning to release several LED DLP tv's that will last a very long time. That'd be the ideal way to go. Plus the viewing angle on DLP's annoy me (I watch one every day when I get home from work). I prefer LCD's, I worked in the TV dept of CC last summer, and they always seemed the most consistant (quality picture + quality manufacturing).

While it may be true that the bulbs in DLPs may need to be replaced periodically it still has alot to do with what company made the DLP monitor. I have a consumer reports magazine from a year or two ago that talked about HDTVS in great detail and their reliability. In fact unless I am mistaken It was Toshiba in the lead with the best reliability for DLPs (Ill post a picture of it tonight if I can find the magazine again guys lol

But imo like what KTR said if its over 50inches then go with the DLPS (They are starting to come out with LED DLP HDTVs you know)While Im not buying a new HDTV for awhile (I bought a crappy 20+ incher HDTV from Best Buy a few months ago in like October I think) I do think that LCD has the prowess to be the best choice for anything under 50". It can still be debated whether or not Plasmas coler superiority over LCD is still worth it or not. (my parents decided to purchase a Plasma from Samsung against my recommendations,yeah what parent ever listens to their kid) And while it is pretty i still dont fully endorse Plasma as of this time (god im startig to sound like a politician with that last statement lol). DLPs are getting thinner by the day and Mitsubishi Has great deals for the size on 1080P DLPs. If I ever get a chance to buy a HDTVthe next few months it will be a DLP definitely (gotta finish saving up for my new car though, yeah im just about finished saving up for it guys. lol)

[cincybengal]

DLP cannot compete with either plasma or lcd. If you're on a budget, get a dlp. If you can spring, go plasma or lcd. People can rah rah dlp all they want, but the picture is not as bright and viewing angles are much smaller

I've had both dlp and plasma >50" and plasma is hands down better, as is lcd(only have a 32", so I really can't compare images). Samsung makes awesome large lcd's and plasmas

[effmaster]

DLP manufacturers list the backlight bulb hours at around 80,000 hours.

Manufacturers of plasma have estimated the life of these phosphors to be about 60,000 hours.

Source: http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/plasmatelevision.html

[Snake05]

80,000 hours?!?!? Where on Earth are they getting that info... Most DLP, namely Samsung (only because they work directly with TI, inventors of DLP technology) are rated 4,000-5,000 hours depending on screen size. God, if I could find a tv that lasted me 20 years (with it on 12 hours every single day) I'd be in heaven. This information is certainly bogus. The plasma lifetime is even rated a little high.

[Whilhelm]

Sharp Aquos LCDs are amazing and I am surprised no one has mentioned them. The D64 series is extremely good. DLPs have never impressed me, for the extra size and short lamp life they don't offer very many benefits and the dropout from off angle viewing makes them pretty much useless to me. Also about this 120Hrtz buzzword, I cant see it making much of a difference except for people who use there TV as a computer monitor. The only time refresh rate becomes a problem is when the framerate of the source goes above 60 causing tearing which in most cases will never happen. Most Xbox 360 and PS3 games are capped at 60 anyway and even then the human eye can't notice the difference above 60FPS let alone 30. If anything I can see it shortening the life of a tv because the screen refreshes twice as fast. So if you have a pc and want to run insane FPS with no tearing then 120Hrtz is the way to go otherwise it is just more money spent.

[Snake05]

Originally Posted by Whilhelm

Sharp Aquos LCDs are amazing and I am surprised no one has mentioned them.

+1
I am about to purchase a 37" Sharp Aquos in August, when I move into my new appartment. I was too busy voicing my opinion about DLP's that I forgot to suggest what I believed to be the better HDTV. LCD FTW!

[mrw1986]

Originally Posted by Snake05

80,000 hours?!?!? Where on Earth are they getting that info... Most DLP, namely Samsung (only because they work directly with TI, inventors of DLP technology) are rated 4,000-5,000 hours depending on screen size. God, if I could find a tv that lasted me 20 years (with it on 12 hours every single day) I'd be in heaven. This information is certainly bogus. The plasma lifetime is even rated a little high.

I take it you're not well versed in the TV aspect of technology? Those numbers are correct. 4,000-5,000 hours? Every bulb replacement maybe, but the ACTUAL TV itself is more like 80k hours. An LCD has a rough lifespan of about 80k hours as well.

[Snake05]

I agree 100%. But read the quote from effmaster
"DLP manufacturers list the backlight bulb hours at around 80,000 hours."

Yes, the discussion was about the BULB REPLACEMENT, not the TV's life overall. Try to claim I don't know much about TV's as much as you want, but after selling them for 6 months, you tend to become somewhat "versed" in the technology.


Lamp Life Ratings per Manufacturer
Manufacturer Est. Lamp Life Replacement Cost Rating
Sony 8,000 hours $199-$299 Great
LG 8,000 hours $299 Good
JVC 6,500 hours $249-$399 Good
Toshiba 6,300 hours $199 Good
Samsung 5,000 hours $349 Good
Sharp 4,600 hours $429-$529 Fair
RCA 3,800 hours $414-$483 Poor
Mitsubishi 3,000 hours $499 Poor
AKIA 1,500 hours $299 Poor

http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptvrevi...placement.html

[mrw1986]

Originally Posted by Snake05

I agree 100%. But read the quote from effmaster
"DLP manufacturers list the backlight bulb hours at around 80,000 hours."

Yes, the discussion was about the BULB REPLACEMENT, not the TV's life overall. Try to claim I don't know much about TV's as much as you want, but after selling them for 6 months, you tend to become somewhat "versed" in the technology.


Lamp Life Ratings per Manufacturer
Manufacturer Est. Lamp Life Replacement Cost Rating
Sony 8,000 hours $199-$299 Great
LG 8,000 hours $299 Good
JVC 6,500 hours $249-$399 Good
Toshiba 6,300 hours $199 Good
Samsung 5,000 hours $349 Good
Sharp 4,600 hours $429-$529 Fair
RCA 3,800 hours $414-$483 Poor
Mitsubishi 3,000 hours $499 Poor
AKIA 1,500 hours $299 Poor

http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptvrevi...placement.html

I sold them for a little over a year and have been following TV tech heavily for about 8 years now. I'm sorry I misread his post, but he could also be referring to LED DLPs, in which case that lifespan is correct. Also you rate JVC high, in fact they have one of the worse track records for TVs. Their first gen HD-ILA actually would catch fire and nearly burned down a few homes...they're reliability is still horrendous.

EDIT: Just noticed you didn't come up with that list, but that website is dumb as hell if they think JVC is any good at all...and its Akai not Akia...dumbasses.

[Wetbehindtheears]

you payz yer money & take yer choice!! I've been looking for a 32-40" TV for ages now. I find a good LCD then a plasma comes out etc etc. DLPs are too large and expensive for me

[Snake05]

Originally Posted by mrw1986

I sold them for a little over a year and have been following TV tech heavily for about 8 years now. I'm sorry I misread his post, but he could also be referring to LED DLPs, in which case that lifespan is correct. Also you rate JVC high, in fact they have one of the worse track records for TVs. Their first gen HD-ILA actually would catch fire and nearly burned down a few homes...they're reliability is still horrendous.

EDIT: Just noticed you didn't come up with that list, but that website is dumb as hell if they think JVC is any good at all...and its Akai not Akia...dumbasses.

I just rechecked his source and it is refering to regular DLP's. To show you how stupid source is, my list came from the same site as his original quote, but from a different section. Someone isn't able to keep their information straight...

[mrw1986]

At least we can agree on something

[mep916]

I picked up a Samsung 50" 720p Plasma in January for $1,549. I wanted a 1080p LCD, but the 46" LCDs were anywhere from $500 - $1,000 more. I'm satisfied with the picture quality, although I would like the higher 1920x1080 resolution that a 1080p offers since I plan on building a HTPC for PC gaming.

I never really considered a DLP; I wanted the ability to mount my television on the wall.

^I'm not sure if that helps, but it's my experience.

[cincybengal]

An interesting brand is Vizio. They are very cheap, and consistantly rate very high on reviews. An example: http://tech.msn.com/products/slidesh...mentid=6460608

[Snake05]

Interesting, yes. Very cheap, yes (for a reason). They do seem to consistantly get good reviews, mainly because they are bought on a budget (which is exactally what this tv is intended for). In a side by side comparison with any of the big names (Sony, Samsung, Toshiba, LG) the picture quality is at a much lower level. But, as long as one does not compare the tv's picture quality to the big dogs, then it really is a good looking picture (in comparison to what the customer is use to), and at a good price. Just my 2 cents on Visio (not to shoot your post down cincybengal, just my personal feelings towards the brand).