buying ram.. which of these three is better?

[simaomacaco]

GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz Black Dragon DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GB22GB6400C4DC) 800MHz RAM Speed, CAS 4-4-4-12 Timings, 1.9-2.0v VDIMM, Lifetime Warranty with GeIL.

GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400C5 800MHz Value DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400DC) 800MHz RAM Speed, CAS 5-5-5-15 Timings, 1.8-1.9v VDIMM, Lifetime Warranty with GeIL.

OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz ReaperX HPC Enhanced Bandwidth Edition Dual Channel DDR2 (OCZ2RPX800EB4GK) 800MHz RAM Speed, CAS 4-4-3-15 Timings, 2.1-2.2v VDIMM, Lifetime Warranty with OCZ.

Which of these is better for overclocking and 2.4Duo2 with an old intel XBX board?

[calvary1980]

I would say Geil Black Dragons, flagship.

- Christine

[tzitzibp]

Originally Posted by calvary1980

I would say Geil Black Dragons, flagship.

- Christine

I agree...geil have produced some really great mem sticks and the new dragons are no exception....

[ntdouglas]

If your going for higher ram clocks 2 gig will overclock better than 4 gig. But what I have found is that more bandwith beats faster bandwith. So I would go with 4 gig and not run them as fast as 2 gig.

[tzitzibp]

Originally Posted by ntdouglas

If your going for higher ram clocks 2 gig will overclock better than 4 gig. But what I have found is that more bandwith beats faster bandwith. So I would go with 4 gig and not run them as fast as 2 gig.

why don't go buy transend axe modules (2x1 gb, 1066mhz) X2 = 4x1gb

still....great memory amongst others....
If they were available, where I live, when I was building my rig, I would surely get them....

[WarEagleAU]

Thats a good suggestion with the axe ram. For awhile, Geil was putting out crappy ram. They seemed to have redeemed themselves with their Esoteras and other lines.

[ntdouglas]

Originally Posted by tzitzibp

why don't go buy transend axe modules (2x1 gb, 1066mhz) X2 = 4x1gb

still....great memory amongst others....
If they were available, where I live, when I was building my rig, I would surely get them....

I will sell you my 1200 kit.

[tzitzibp]

Originally Posted by ntdouglas

I will sell you my 1200 kit.

in the last 6 months i spent about 3000$ to build my rig and my media center....and in about 1 month our baby is due. So I won't be spending a cent on pcs, until next September...

how much for it?

lol... lasted 5 seconds...

[ntdouglas]

Originally Posted by tzitzibp

in the last 6 months i spent about 3000$ to build my rig and my media center....and in about 1 month our baby is due. So I won't be spending a cent on pcs, until next September...

how much for it?

lol... lasted 5 seconds...

How about $150. Supply and demand you know.

[Nitro-Max]

4 gig is useless unless u want to run a 64bit os which are normally a pain in the ass anyway especially vista if you plan on getting most preformance out of your rig stick with xp 32bit and get 2gig.

I have 4 gig of ocz reaper and i wish i had got 2gb now cos ive had all i can take from vista why slow up a good machine on a operating system that requires 1gig for its self.

XP RULES!!

[ntdouglas]

Originally Posted by Nitro-Max

4 gig is useless unless u want to run a 64bit os which are normally a pain in the ass anyway especially vista if you plan on getting most preformance out of your rig stick with xp 32bit and get 2gig.

I have 4 gig of ocz reaper and i wish i had got 2gb now cos ive had all i can take from vista why slow up a good machine on a operating system that requires 1gig for its self.

XP RULES!!

Thats a good, valid point nitro.

[Smartbomb]

I run that same OCZ kit on XP64 and it KIKs AZZ, originally I ran it on Vista64 (for about 3 hours) before going back to XP, this kit overclocks awesome for a 4 gig kit, mine is running 1066mhz without breaking a sweat 5-5-4-18 on stock voltage 2.1. At 2.2V at the same timings you can easily stroke 1150mhz outta these puppies BTW, I haven't had one issue whatsoever with 64bit XP, everything I toss at it works.

[theonetruewill]

I have the Black Dragon kit- nice stuff. Hasn't let me down yet. I have them at 1033- not taken them higher.

EDIT: Right now testing them @ 1100MHz 5-5-5-15 (2.2v) for you

EDIT2: Seem to be stable on orthos for a decent while- sorry, I won't check if they can go higher as I will not put any higher than 2.2v through them.

[Smartbomb]

Man theonetruewill's post got me playing, here are some references on OCZ ReaperX PC6400
@800mhz 4-4-3-10 1T (2.1v) @1066 5-5-4-15 2T (2.1v) @1100mhz 5-5-4-15 2T (2.2v) not gonna push any further but there are people on the net (especially OCZ forum) that will back this kit hitting 1150mhz
BTW I am more than happy that I got a 4 gig kit stable at 1T. Also I used TRFC 32 on all.
Will add to this post again later, going to tweak my timings even further and see how many rabbits I can pull outta the hat.

[theonetruewill]

This is the best that I can do on 2.2v

[Smartbomb]

theonetruewill that is a very good overclock, very worthy BTW my tweakings are done, anymore I push I am locking my system up. Forget about prime95, I kick in Everest Ultimate and freeze my puter out. My whole body hurts from cringing so hard doing hard reset after hard reset.
The best benchmarks with SuperPI I got of running at 1066.
Edit: After further playing around I got this kit running 1120mhz 5-5-4-15 with my SuperPI 1M dropped 1 second. Kept my voltage at 2.2V. I was able to get into windows with it running as high as 1133mhz but wasn't very stable (Love BSOD's) 1120mhz stabablized. Ran Prime95 X64 for 4 hours. Numerous runs with SuperPI and benched a few times with 3DMark06.

[theonetruewill]

Originally Posted by Smartbomb

theonetruewill that is a very good overclock, very worthy BTW my tweakings are done, anymore I push I am locking my system up. Forget about prime95, I kick in Everest Ultimate and freeze my puter out. My whole body hurts from cringing so hard doing hard reset after hard reset.
The best benchmarks with SuperPI I got of running at 1066.

Well we both seem to have pushed our RAM to the limit. I hope this helps the OP. Personally I suspect the OCZ kit is slightly better - but I have no idea of the pricing difference between them in your location. If it is much more expensive then I do not think it is worth it. However, if this is not true- go with the OCZ kit. Always get the best you can afford.

[Smartbomb]

theonetruewill has a very good point, the OCZ kit isn't the cheapest, roughly $150-$160 not to mention I have seen guys get way lower SuperPI than my 16.125s at 1 meg with 2 gig kits, hope this doesn't furthur confuse things. There is a guy Mr. Natural on evga forum (we don't see eye to eye) who is a memory master, he pulls 12.79s 4,3,3,9,2T,3,15 with crucial ddr2 1000 kit running at 950mhz. I also realize this kit isn't on your hit list but I hope this info helps anyways

[theonetruewill]

Originally Posted by Smartbomb

theonetruewill has a very good point, the OCZ kit isn't the cheapest, roughly $150-$160

On a side note- the Black Dragons have no Heatspreader on their kit as standard. I thought this odd at first as only very cheap brands normally fall foul of this. However, I have noticed that the kit simply does not get hot (also the Dragon-eye LED's are thus visible). I keep considering and reconsidering getting a RAM cooler- but even with 2.2v and under heavy load the kit does not get more than slightly warm. It does beg the question as to if basic heatspreaders actually do help or hinder heat transfer. With kits like the Corsair Dominator series I think that the Heatsinks do actually work. But I remeber my old XMS2 kit with basic heatspreaders were as hot as hell even at only about 2v. Personally I don't want to state anything as fact but I am wondering of the merit of basic Heatspreaders- but I still notice the cooling performance gain in the more expensive cooling methods.

[Wile E]

None of the above. I say get these: http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/I...=TX1200QLJ-2GK

[Cold Storm]

I'd pick those too. I would say my Ballastix but they aren't Micron's anymore... The transends can oc like a beast.
Wile E knows a little to much about this set of ram! lol

[theonetruewill]

I just don't think those transcends are going to be worth it in his system. they are for severely hardcore overclockers.

[tzitzibp]

Originally Posted by theonetruewill

I just don't think those transcends are going to be worth it in his system. they are for severely hardcore overclockers.

maybe, but they are also for those who are just want to try something new and learn from it.... OC wise. What i mean is that these sticks are forgiving....

[miniquake32]

i would choose OCZ

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by tzitzibp

maybe, but they are also for those who are just want to try something new and learn from it.... OC wise. What i mean is that these sticks are forgiving....

Yes they are. Very forgiving. I have a set of D9 Ballistix, and they won't post on my board from a default CMOS, even with just one stick. These Transcend fire right up. I've had them up to 1400Mhz on 2.34V, and 1290 on default voltage (2.2V). The best ram I have ever owned, ever.