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Old Jul 25, 2006, 04:29 PM   #51
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I assume he meant alpha timings: Trrd, Twr, Twtr, Trwt + other memory settings.

If I remember right MSI K8N Neo4 has those available in BIOS.

If you can, download CPU-Z and check you are using correct memory slots and that memory is in dual channel mode.
Here are the results from CPU-Z. It looks like I am in the right slots and DDR mode.
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 10:42 PM   #52
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can you download and post a screenshot of A64 tweaker? its more detailed than cpu-z
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 11:20 PM   #53
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can you download and post a screenshot of A64 tweaker? its more detailed than cpu-z
Hope this is what you need.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 04:15 PM   #54
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Old Aug 2, 2006, 12:40 PM   #55
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Download A64Info here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=96678

Set memory voltage to 2.7-2.8V and these in BIOS as well as rated timings:
Trc - 7
Trfc - 15
TRRD - 2 or 3
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Read preable value - 5ns
Async latency - 7ns

Once you have download A64Info, take a screen and post it as attachment here. It might be Drive Strength settings are way off.
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Old Aug 2, 2006, 02:31 PM   #56
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Thanks Zebbo, I really appreciate your help. Here are the attachments you asked for.
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Didnt you have a problem to get it run at stock timings and voltage? Judging from the screenshot you are at 287MHz for memory?
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Didnt you have a problem to get it run at stock timings and voltage? Judging from the screenshot you are at 287MHz for memory?
I can't get it to run at stock timmings. I ran memtest64 at stock and got all kinds of errors. I have crashes and freeze ups at the present timmings. I have set it to the specs you recommened and so far have not had any problems. Thanks.

Edit: Not sure if this is your area of expertice if not then no need to reply. I don't know how to set my virtual memory for the best performance, I have read to many conflicting articles, am a little confused.

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I can't get it to run at stock timmings. I ran memtest64 at stock and got all kinds of errors. I have crashes and freeze ups at the present timmings. I have set it to the specs you recommened and so far have not had any problems. Thanks.

Edit: Not sure if this is your area of expertice if not then no need to reply. I don't know how to set my virtual memory for the best performance, I have read to many conflicting articles, am a little confused.
Drive Strength settings are very important to gain stability especially with modules based on TCCD chips.

I would start by trying:
DRAM Drive Strength: Weak
DRAM Data Drive Strength: Level 2 (Reduced 30%) / Level 3 (Reduced 15%)

As for pagefile its better to leave it enabled on system that is used for something else than plain benchmarking.
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Drive Strength settings are very important to gain stability especially with modules based on TCCD chips.

I would start by trying:
DRAM Drive Strength: Weak
DRAM Data Drive Strength: Level 2 (Reduced 30%) / Level 3 (Reduced 15%)

As for pagefile its better to leave it enabled on system that is used for something else than plain benchmarking.
Again Zebbo thank you for your help. I'm sure this will make a difference will post back later after I try it out. . As for pagefile I will assume you meant to let Windows control the setting and amount.
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It seems to be somewhat better then it was, thanks.
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DRAM Drive Strength: Weak
DRAM Data Drive Strength: Level 2 (Reduced 30%) / Level 3 (Reduced 15%)
You said start by trying, what do you recommend after I have tried this?
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I can set the settings you recommended with A64INFO which is good until I reboot but I tried to set them permanently in the bios and it wouldn't post. Had to clear CMOS. Some of the settings are not in my bios, wonder if that had anything to do with it (dram drive strength and dram data drive strength)?
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I can set the settings you recommended with A64INFO which is good until I reboot but I tried to set them permanently in the bios and it wouldn't post. Had to clear CMOS. Some of the settings are not in my bios, wonder if that had anything to do with it (dram drive strength and dram data drive strength)?
It should not have anything to do with it since it wipes out whatever changes you have done once you reboot the system. Drive Strengths are values that can be very sensitive with some of the modules and will help you fine-tune your overclock, however all manufacturers doesnt include such settings on their bioses. DFI and few ATI branded boards are only one that has nice selection of different Drive Strength settings.
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I can set the settings you recommended with A64INFO which is good until I reboot but I tried to set them permanently in the bios and it wouldn't post. Had to clear CMOS. Some of the settings are not in my bios, wonder if that had anything to do with it (dram drive strength and dram data drive strength)?
What DDR frequency are you attempting to run at?

ed- pm me if you want with some details and i'll make some more suggestions. im so busy keeping an eye out for folk having mushy memory probs i often clean forget about this thread
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would this memory be able to handle (380) 760mhz @ 2.0 volts with the 3-3-3-10 timings?
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would this memory be able to handle (380) 760mhz @ 2.0 volts with the 3-3-3-10 timings?
Most of the modules will require 2.1V for that or even 2.2V but I cant guarantee you will get it. What I can guarantee is PC5300 (DDR667) with 3-3-3-10 timings.
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Got any oppinion on 2X512 Corsair TwinX 3200C2PRO?
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Got any oppinion on 2X512 Corsair TwinX 3200C2PRO?
hmmm???
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No really,as your competition u must've tried it.I'm just interested in how much o/c can they take.I really wanted to get Mushkin but i can't find ones in Macedonia(Macedonia is north neighbour of Greece in case you wondered)
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I just ordered a new E6400 system, and was looking for ram when I found a Mushkin 2x1G kit for $275 (im in Australia). The description given is DDR2 2048MB (2x1G) 5300 667Mhz Mushkin, 5-5-5-15. I hope its not a pricing error, its by far the cheapest 2Gig kit ive found anywhere. Could you possibly give me a link to some more detailed info on this stuff? Im using this system at home mainly for gaming and a bit of video editing/encoding etc This ram should give me reasonable performance for the price?? (I cant really justify spending twice as much for 6400 etc). How much difference is actually noticeable for what im using it for?
(Decided to order it anyway, done and done).

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Hello, I've just had one of my redline XP4000 2-2-2 UTT kit stick which has gone dead,

I sent an email to support_at_mushkin.com (to ask for an RMA) including the reference of the kit, the invoice, the descriptions of the problem and of my system specs.

Is everything ok with this form and must I send the two modules back to Mushkin? and where (I live in Paris)? I don't have any other kit to substitute during the shipping/return time, at the moment I'm happy with running on one module rather than none.
As I guess these modules aren't produced any more, am I going to receive a new kit like mine or another kind of kit?

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thanks zebbo for support,

problem solved (coldboot) with great efficiency
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