*RISKY* Possible Bios Flash?

Ok, this is something thats been niggling away at the back of my mind for a few weeks now.

In my 5000+ BE overclocking adventure, someone made a suggestion thats been playing on my mind. My current problem is i cant overclock any higher due to voltage restrictions on my motherboard, with 1.4V being the highest.

Now someone suggested, seeing as my mobo is an ASUS M2N-SLI, possibly flashing its bios to the latest for the MSN-SLI Deluxe.

My question to you is, do you think it will work? Is it worth the risk? And also, if it does work, will the Deluxes bios provide me with any voltage increases past 1.4V or will it still be locked to 1.4v?

Cheers!

[DanTheBanjoman]

Learn to hotflash, that way you won't have any risks when flashing your BIOS. Or buy one of those BIOS saviors. Might work, I've seen more boards that would work with different BIOSes.

[JrRacinFan]

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

Learn to hotflash, that way you won't have any risks when flashing your BIOS. Or buy one of those BIOS saviors. Might work, I've seen more boards that would work with different BIOSes.

That's where a problem comes in to play. The bios chip is directly soldered not socketed. That makes a hotflash very close to non-existent, pretty much damn near impossible.

Kyle, please for me don't even try it. How high can you go on 1.4?

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

That's where a problem comes in to play. The bios chip is directly soldered not socketed. That makes a hotflash very close to non-existent, pretty much damn near impossible.

Kyle, please for me don't even try it. How high can you go on 1.4?

im annoyed though that my setup has more potential than my motherboards allowing, and i am not willing to buy a new one.

I can get to 3.1 stable on 1.4v, just using multiplier. i can then go, on a multi of 15.5, to 203 fsb to get to 3.15 stable ish.

[JrRacinFan]

Originally Posted by kyle2020

im annoyed though that my setup has more potential than my motherboards allowing, and i am not willing to buy a new one.

I can get to 3.1 stable on 1.4v, just using multiplier. i can then go, on a multi of 15.5, to 203 fsb to get to 3.15 stable ish.

Well, I am just trying to help you out. If you can go without a rig and can afford a new motherboard for replacement, try out the flash. But TBH with you, thats a pretty decent clock you have.

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Well, I am just trying to help you out. If you can go without a rig and can afford a new motherboard for replacement, try out the flash. But TBH with you, thats a pretty decent clock you have.

thats the thing - im 16 and earning £40 a week. I really cant afford it if i be rational, what with saving for an upcoming eurotrip with a few friends and the prospect of driving next year. But like i said, as im sure anyone can appreciate, its bloody annoying to be slapped in the face by voltage restrictions.

[CrackerJack]

Kyle, i wouldn't do it. It's not worth it. Like i said in your other thread. Every chip is different. I've had two 5000+ BE and only one would do 3.2Ghz at good temps. The only thing i was changing is the multi and the voltage. I can do 3.2Ghz at 1.375 volts (the chip i've got now). Before i had to push it to 1.425 to get 3.2Ghz stable. But if your only getting 3.1 stable at 1.4 then i wouldn't worry about it. Look at cdawall his at 1.5 That just to much for my taste.

Originally Posted by CrackerJack

Kyle, i wouldn't do it. It's not worth it. Like i said in your other thread. Every chip is different. I've had two 5000+ BE and only one would do 3.2Ghz at good temps. The only thing i was changing is the multi and the voltage. I can do 3.2Ghz at 1.375 volts (the chip i've got now). Before i had to push it to 1.425 to get 3.2Ghz stable. But if your only getting 3.1 stable at 1.4 then i wouldn't worry about it. Look at cdawall his at 1.5 That just to much for my taste.

thats another thing that does me though - even at 1.4V i cant get stable for 3.2 - my pc shuts donw within seconds of selecting 16x multi.

Im not going to bother, i mean like people have been saying, 3.1 isnt bad plus i dont want to screw my mobo up.

Oh, off topic but still - would it be worth trying to sell my ECS motherboard and a few other spares i have lying around on here?

[DanTheBanjoman]

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

That's where a problem comes in to play. The bios chip is directly soldered not socketed. That makes a hotflash very close to non-existent, pretty much damn near impossible.

Kyle, please for me don't even try it. How high can you go on 1.4?

That changes things yes. The board doesn't have the ez recovery thing? Whatever Asus calls it? I'm not sure how it works but they claim it recovers wasted BIOSes, so I assume it loads the flash program from some other chip. Personally I wouldn't be messing with it if it could break my board. I would verify that it works for other people first.

[JrRacinFan]

Infor for Dan: I'm 85% positive it doesn't have a recovery utility. Have not physically used the board but know most of its bios options.

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Infor for Dan: I'm 85% positive it doesn't have a recovery utility. Have not physically used the board but know most of its bios options.

it does have the ASUS crash free bios utility.

[JrRacinFan]

I remember that now, it was one of the first. CrashFree was in its early stages.

[yogurt_21]

what type of cooling do you have on your cpu? on air my fx-62 wouldn't even hit 3GHZ 2.96 was the max stable. on water, I hit 3.3GHZ on 1.4v. and the 5000's overclock better than the fx-62's did. personally i'd prefer to upgrade cooling than upping voltage/heat because the former increases the life of the cpu while the latter decreases it.

Originally Posted by yogurt_21

what type of cooling do you have on your cpu? on air my fx-62 wouldn't even hit 3GHZ 2.96 was the max stable. on water, I hit 3.3GHZ on 1.4v. and the 5000's overclock better than the fx-62's did. personally i'd prefer to upgrade cooling than upping voltage/heat because the former increases the life of the cpu while the latter decreases it.

im using an arctic cooling alpine 64 - not the best thing in the world but its not temperatures that are stopping me hitting 3.2

[yogurt_21]

the ability to remove heat from the processor does more than just that. it also increases the amount of overclock you can hit. my fx-62 at 2.96GHZ never peaked over 30C so it wasn't heat holding me back their either. the more cooling you throw at a cpu, the higher overclock you can reach on less voltage. meaning that with air I was at 1.55v to hit 2.96GHZ on the fx-62, on water I hiot 3.3GHZ on 1.4v and on phase, I hit 3.4GHZ on 1.2v

if voltage is your problem, better cooling will fix it.

Originally Posted by yogurt_21

the ability to remove heat from the processor does more than just that. it also increases the amount of overclock you can hit. my fx-62 at 2.96GHZ never peaked over 30C so it wasn't heat holding me back their either. the more cooling you throw at a cpu, the higher overclock you can reach on less voltage. meaning that with air I was at 1.55v to hit 2.96GHZ on the fx-62, on water I hiot 3.3GHZ on 1.4v and on phase, I hit 3.4GHZ on 1.2v

if voltage is your problem, better cooling will fix it.

its something to consider. i was thinking about upgrading it anywho. thanks for the feedback!