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Old May 27, 2008, 01:02 PM   #1
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Ok, I was wandering about upgrading to vista. Now I was wandering if some of you could give me some tips about Vista. Like all the Good stuff and bad.

Im planning to upgrade one of my systems, I use it for gaming, everday use, and Lan Parties. And the everyday uses are like surfing the internet, using Microsoft Office, stuff like that. Now will Vista be good for me in those ways. Now I play games alot, and I use my computer to help others with it. Now I mean by that, is I use programs like VNC, or remote assitance to give people help if they have problems with there sytem, so I could log onto there's to help them. Here are my systems specs to give yall more info.

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Old May 27, 2008, 01:05 PM   #2
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Do both. Just dual boot. And you only need about 50gb for each OS. You can can do in 40gb, but i like having the extra room for programs just for that OS
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well if you are happy with XP keep it. i have never tried vista but my buddy has and he crashes almost evry month, i havnt crashed in 3 years!! so i can only judge from what i see directly.
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I was going to say 'yes' till I saw that you don't have a dx10 graphics card. You planning to get one in the future?

Thing is, Vista is nice, it is stable now especially with SP1, you have the computer specs to carry it nicely without causing it to lag...

But what advantages will you be gaining to warrant the trouble and expense of changing OS?

The only small advantage would be if you buy it 64 bit and you increase RAM, you'll get all your ram recognised whereas under a 32 bit OS you'll only get around ~3GB recognised.

I think yes by all means go Vista, but get the 64 bit edition, purchase another 1GB RAM (it's not that expensive) and run 4GB in dual channel, and get an 8800GTS 512MB or at least a 9600GT so that you can enjoy the dx10 graphics Vista gives you.
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Stick with xp if you can. Seeing as your card doesn't have DX10, your games will appear the same. I'm one that doesn't like vista at all. Plus, Windows 7 comes out in 2 years...maybe that will be better than vista...
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Old May 27, 2008, 01:27 PM   #6
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I was going to say 'yes' till I saw that you don't have a dx10 graphics card. You planning to get one in the future?

Thing is, Vista is nice, it is stable now especially with SP1, you have the computer specs to carry it nicely without causing it to lag...

But what advantages will you be gaining to warrant the trouble and expense of changing OS?

The only small advantage would be if you buy it 64 bit and you increase RAM, you'll get all your ram recognised whereas under a 32 bit OS you'll only get around ~3GB recognised.

I think yes by all means go Vista, but get the 64 bit edition, purchase another 1GB RAM (it's not that expensive) and run 4GB in dual channel, and get an 8800GTS 512MB or at least a 9600GT so that you can enjoy the dx10 graphics Vista gives you.
Yes, I am fixin to buy a XFX 9600 GT XXX edition card. And I already have 64 bit Ultimate. And my ram is a P.O.S. and Im planning on buying 4gb of Dual-Channel ram, and trashing my old ram.
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Yes, I am fixin to buy a XFX 9600 GT XXX edition card. And I already have 64 bit Ultimate. And my ram is a P.O.S. and Im planning on buying 4gb of Dual-Channel ram, and trashing my old ram.
I don't see any reason why you can't use it then. You'll definitely see improvements:
1) DX10 in games;
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Old May 27, 2008, 04:32 PM   #8
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If it's not easy to think of very good reasons to switch to Vista, I don't know why you'd bother. Dual-boot FTW, I guess.

The new Windows OS is supposedly coming out before 2010 now anyway. And even if it's not, eh.
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Do a dual boot and then choose which you like best.
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I wouldn't bother going to Vista with a NF3 motherboard as it doesn't support Vista.
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Erocker, I just googled it... the threads about NF3 and vista are painful to read...

http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion...hp?t33128.html

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Yes, it really made me loathe Nvidia for a while... Then they released the G80 and all was forgiven! It's tough for AGP users though, especially those with DX10 ATi AGP cards. It's either a hard to find ATi AGP chipset which will work great, or you're stuck using a much more common VIA chipset, which as we all know is the bottom for overclocking, which you are going to need to do on an older system in order to get your DX10 games to play in the first place. All of this was the reason I bit the bullet and switched to PCI-E.
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The only small advantage would be if you buy it 64 bit and you increase RAM, you'll get all your ram recognised whereas under a 32 bit OS you'll only get around ~3GB recognised.
32 bit Vista with SP1 reports the correct amount of RAM that you have installed. (Up to 4GB)
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I use both on two different machines, Vista on my desktop, and Xp on my gaming rig. I have an extra copy of vista, and when I upgrade my gaming rig, I'm installing vista on it. I really like vista, and if you have the hardware it will run great.
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Ok, I was wandering about upgrading to vista. Now I was wandering if some of you could give me some tips about Vista. Like all the Good stuff and bad.

Im planning to upgrade one of my systems, I use it for gaming, everday use, and Lan Parties. And the everyday uses are like surfing the internet, using Microsoft Office, stuff like that. Now will Vista be good for me in those ways. Now I play games alot, and I use my computer to help others with it. Now I mean by that, is I use programs like VNC, or remote assitance to give people help if they have problems with there sytem, so I could log onto there's to help them. Here are my systems specs to give yall more info.

System Specs:
ECS KN3 SLI2 mobo
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2.01GHz
500w PSU
3GB of DDR2 800 RAM
eVGA e-GeForce 7600GT 256mb of GDDR3
2x WD 80GB Sata HDD
LITE-ON CD Drive/Burner
LITE-ON DVD Drive

I use VNC with our Gaming server near everyday and no issue's. This is Vista x64 to Win2003.

I use XP x64 loads more than Vista x64. An our eldest uses it daily ( x86 ). Madest this though is when that system is turned on it disconnects my wife XP machine for about a split second. Never happend when it was running Linux or XP.
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Like I said with his NF3 motherboard and the only DX10 AGP card available (the HD3850), Vista will not work. It will run, but it won't be able to recognize the video card, and you won't be able to install the drivers for it.
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I wouldn't bother going to Vista with a NF3 motherboard as it doesn't support Vista.
lol.
My Mobo is the ECS EliteGroup KN3 SLI2 edition. It has a Nvidia nForce 590SLI chipset. And it is a Vista Ready motherboard.

http://www.ecsusa.com/ECSWebSite/Pro...uID=46&LanID=9

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Like I said with his NF3 motherboard and the only DX10 AGP card available (the HD3850), Vista will not work. It will run, but it won't be able to recognize the video card, and you won't be able to install the drivers for it.
In the past I have used the following VIDEO cards ATI 9600, 6800 and 7900 Vista has worked fine.

Check out these sites http://www.vistatestdrive.com/ultimate.aspx?btype=2

and to test your PC go here http://www.pcpitstop.com/vistaready/default.asp
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Like I said with his NF3 motherboard and the only DX10 AGP card available (the HD3850), Vista will not work. It will run, but it won't be able to recognize the video card, and you won't be able to install the drivers for it.
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My mobo doesnt support AGP cards. It supports PCI-Express. My mobo is a SLI2 edition, where it support Nvidia, and all then new Video cards out there.

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My mobo doesnt support AGP cards. It supports PCI-Express. My mobo is a SLI2 edition, where it support Nvidia, and all then new Video cards out there.
My bad! It'll be fine.
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I wouldnt bother untill you upgrade totally. XP will give your hardware specifications more performance and efficiency at the expence of the Vista looking frontend.

Windows7 might be a better option.
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I wouldnt bother untill you upgrade totally. XP will give your hardware specifications more performance and efficiency at the expence of the Vista looking frontend.

Windows7 might be a better option.
I can wait for Windows7, but I don't want to.
I want to experience Vista first. And If don't like it then I will switch back to XP, and wait for W7.
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Then Dual boot it is!! XD Currently loving my XP x64 install, never had BSoD yet! XD
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Do both. Just dual boot. And you only need about 50gb for each OS. You can can do in 40gb, but i like having the extra room for programs just for that OS
No need for dual boot anymore. All gaming can be done in Vista without a problem. Just put Windows XP in a VM if you need to run certain applications that possibly won't run in Vista (rare).

Look in my signature for VirtualBox. Best virtual software I've ever used and it's free. Windows XP actually boots within 10-15 seconds in a VM as opposed to normal installation. You don't have to worry about the pain of rebooting and when you run it bridged with your network connection it can access the network as if it was another computer attached to your router.
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