AMD HD 4850 launched

W1zzard · Jun 19, 2008, 01:05 PM

As of 3PM CET the NDA for the Radeon HD 4850 Series has been lifted. Since this came as a surprise to everyone our reviews are not finished yet now finished.

MSI HD 4850 | PowerColor HD 4850

candle_86 · Jun 19, 2008, 01:08 PM

wait no preformance numbers

Jun 19, 2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by candle_86

wait no preformance numbers

will be added later .

candle_86 · Jun 19, 2008, 01:10 PM

yea i just noticed it lol

OnBoard · Jun 19, 2008, 01:23 PM

*lurks in this thread* Wonder how it does againts 8800GTS, that is now in the same price. But good for ATI to beat this time after the HD3870/8800GT loss.

edit: oh, quite even, although HD4850 steals the lead in higher resolutions.

edit2: what I don't get is why 800 shaders doesn't crush absolutely everything? Maybe Vantage would give bigger difference between 3850 and 4850. Should be future proof at least, if games keep getting more shader heavy.

edit3: seems it did do much better on some actual games beating the HD3850 with 3times higher framerate.

hrvoje · Jun 19, 2008, 01:35 PM

tx wizz 4 info, wondering how 4870X2 will do when comes out

[I.R.A]_FBi · Jun 19, 2008, 01:44 PM

ati tool dev for these, hows it going?

btarunr · Jun 19, 2008, 01:57 PM

Appetizing 3DM'05 scores indeed. It beats the 9800 GTX.

W1zzard · Jun 19, 2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

Nobody cares about 3dmar03 and 05. You can skip those, or do them LAST. What we want are some REAL numbers to chew over.

go watch some porn and come back in one hour

Cold Storm · Jun 19, 2008, 02:07 PM

First off, I just want to thank w1zz for just posting. I mean, he could of stated that the reviews wheren't done, and we'd had to wait.. But, thats not w1zz way of doing it!
Now for the scores... I think I'll make this card or the big brother my back up!

AsRock · Jun 19, 2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnBoard

*lurks in this thread* Wonder how it does againts 8800GTS, that is now in the same price. But good for ATI to beat this time after the HD3870/8800GT loss.

edit: oh, quite even, although HD4850 steals the lead in higher resolutions.

edit2: what I don't get is why 800 shaders doesn't crush absolutely everything? Maybe Vantage would give bigger difference between 3850 and 4850. Should be future proof at least, if games keep getting more shader heavy.

Maybe because the less ROP's ?.

lemonadesoda · Jun 19, 2008, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

go watch some porn and come back in one hour

Yes sir!

P.S. Get back to your bench!

Paulieg · Jun 19, 2008, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

go watch some porn and come back in one hour

LOL.

selway89 · Jun 19, 2008, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Storm

First off, I just want to thank w1zz for just posting. I mean, he could of stated that the reviews wheren't done, and we'd had to wait.. But, thats not w1zz way of doing it!
Now for the scores... I think I'll make this card or the big brother my back up!

+1
Thanks W1zz

btarunr · Jun 19, 2008, 02:15 PM

Excellent 1600x1200 scores! Looks like 16x12 is become a sweet-spot for HD4850. If the HD4870 performs at least 15% better, it will make the GTX 280 look like a joke. But we still have game tests left.

Gam'ster · Jun 19, 2008, 02:22 PM

How long do you think it will take nflesher to have one up for sale

I bet 2 weeks

Cold Storm · Jun 19, 2008, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gam'ster

How long do you think it will take nflesher to have one up for sale

I bet 2 weeks

Its probably going to be a while... Getting married, and stuff like that.. He doesn't even have time to put in his water cooling systm...lol... But, I'd say 2 weeks if he's able to...

wiak · Jun 19, 2008, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

go watch some porn and come back in one hour

+1

Gam'ster · Jun 19, 2008, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Storm

Its probably going to be a while... Getting married, and stuff like that.. He doesn't even have time to put in his water cooling systm...lol... But, I'd say 2 weeks if he's able to...

Ahh thats cool,
But on the topic of scores the 4850 is having no trouble keeping up with the 8800/9800gtx's, Impressive to say the least.

Gam

calvary1980 · Jun 19, 2008, 02:53 PM

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/14...ghz/index.html I saw this morning I wasn't impressed with crossfire, no "driver mature" comments please. they have been maturing since the company founded.

- Christine

btarunr · Jun 19, 2008, 02:55 PM

This card is rocking in games too! Finally, ATI is beating NVidia convincingly in TWIMTBP titles.

So far, overall the HD4850 is performing very well at high-resolutions (1600x1200 and 2048x1536). Looks like the "HD" prefix is being honest with us.

panchoman · Jun 19, 2008, 02:58 PM

look at those prices! 4870 is 300 bucks and the gtx 280 is 659.. and if the 4870x2 beats the gtx 280.. it cant be more then 600 bucks... so amd's gonna have faster cards that are cheap.. the only concern is that you can tri sli with the gtx 280 but you cant with the 4870x2 yet i think..

HTC · Jun 19, 2008, 02:59 PM

First: thank you for this review, Mr. W1zzard.

I think you didn't include Vantage scores in this review (as well as the GTX280 cards reviews) because you were unable to procure the other (older) cards to do Vantage tests on them as well (so that we could compare them all) but, IMHO, you should start to include it in your reviews sooner or later: preferably, sooner rather then later, wouldn't you say.

DaMulta · Jun 19, 2008, 03:04 PM

One hell of a card for the price. One hell of a card period.

btarunr · Jun 19, 2008, 03:09 PM

It beats the 9800GTX in Splinter Cell...with an epic margin. I'm dying to see the relative performance chart.

This GPU has "Hi-Def Champion" written all over it.

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