Why did AMD move from S939 to AM2?

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jul 2, 2008, 04:04 AM

The only reason I can think of is to add DDR2 support, but it seems like they would have moved for more than one reason. It would cost too much to just add one spec to a line of CPUs, wouldn't it?

JC316 · Jul 2, 2008, 04:10 AM

I would say to add DDR2 and to get lower processes, better energy, better boards.

ShadowFold · Jul 2, 2008, 04:12 AM

I wonder why they moved to AM2+.. Oooh hypertransport 3, doesnt do much anyway. They need to get AM3 out and show Intel what they are made of.

TheGoat Eater · Jul 2, 2008, 04:12 AM

forced upgrades

- as all do...

Viscarious · Jul 2, 2008, 04:14 AM

perhaps to support quad core.

Oh and heres this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM2%2B

niko084 · Jul 2, 2008, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

I wonder why they moved to AM2+.. Oooh hypertransport 3, doesnt do much anyway. They need to get AM3 out and show Intel what they are made of.

HT3 wont do anything for them... They need a new processor design.

It will come...

ChromeDome · Jul 2, 2008, 04:45 AM

i like my 5600+

'tis a Crysis killer

TheMailMan78 · Jul 2, 2008, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzzmanFloyd120

The only reason I can think of is to add DDR2 support, but it seems like they would have moved for more than one reason. It would cost too much to just add one spec to a line of CPUs, wouldn't it?

Because I bought a 939 and since I'm not allowed to have anything cutting edge they released the AM2.

mdm-adph · Jul 2, 2008, 01:00 PM

Because they were making money during those years and thought they could force a few upgrades. Everyone does it -- AMD is no different.

InnocentCriminal · Jul 2, 2008, 01:08 PM

Here y'go...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bit-Tech's Tim Smalley

I couldn’t help but ask why AMD opted to put so much effort into consolidating socket AM2 through 3, but pushed socket 939 customers out into the cold. In order for 939 users to upgrade, they’d need to not only buy a new CPU, but also a new motherboard and new memory - pushing the price out of reach for next to no performance benefit. With Intel’s Core microarchitecture following so close after the relatively lacklustre socket AM2 launch, I’m pretty sure most enthusiasts either didn’t upgrade, or upgraded to a system based on Intel’s new CPU architecture.

I was greeted by some rather puzzled looks from AMD’s execs, and I got a two part answer to my question. The first came from Dave Everitt, EMEA Product and Platforms Manager at AMD. He said that “in order to get the bandwidth required for HyperTransport 3.0, we needed a few more pins. The way we’d pinned it out [in the past] meant that was how it turned out to be.”

On its own, that was a pretty feasible answer. I don’t quite know how far out AMD was working on DDR3, but I’ll assume that it wasn’t before the socket 939 pin layout had already been finalised.

Original article 'ere.

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